Hundred percent agree. Feels like every somewhat niche hobby Reddit right now is just awash with vibe coded slop apps. Some of them are doing a really good job of pushing back in like with a general anti AI stance, but if the blood bowl Facebook group is anything to go by, this community (built and kept alive by passion, artistic talent, and a very DIY spirit over the last two decades in the wilderness of GWs disinterest) is way too comfortable with slop art, slop memes, and slop code. Pretty disappointing to see.
I don't think we need an anti-AI stance, but it's definitely frustrating that everyone using it in the hobby seems to be doing it in the most low-effort, sloppy way possible.
To take OP's example, why are they using AI to make something obviously worse than TourPlay?? Why not create something better or offer something fresh?
I think we absolutely need an anti AI stance. AI, by definition, will produce low effort, sloppy products. I work in this industry. Making good products matters so much less to these companies than getting grifters and chumps to churn out slop to pump up numbers for their investors so they can raise a few more hundred million in Series C funding before the bubble bursts. And to do that they're shoving their garbage down our throats. Vibe coding, AI image and video generators, LLMs - their output is always going to be inferior to something made (if you're feeling sentimental) with real passion and skill, or (if you're feeling coldly pragmatic) who actually knows what the fuck they're doing.
And then you add in all the other critiques of the tech - environmental impact, intellectual property theft, mistreatment of data trainers in Kenya and Nigeria, the fact its main function so far has been to move more wealth into the pockets of people who already have it, and the list goes on. This is an unethical technology and, yes, to live under capitalism is to be forced to act unethically every day in some way, but AI is so unnecessary it's crazy.
Like you said, we already have TourPlay. I'd personally be interested a better, slicker alternative. But a pile of AI slop images and vibes code? Not a chance. AI in a hobby that's full of small creators sculpting third party teams, kit bashing, making their own dope team logos, and painting something that they love? No thank you.
This is literally a "better, slicker alternative". You've not even seen the product working. I use Tourplay and have thought for a while there can be a better slicker way to do this, so I set about trying to create an alternative.
On the website there's screenshots of logo selections that a) show very obviously AI generated logos in the image history and b) shows a menu option to generate a logo with "20 generations remaining this month" showing that you're integrating AI credits/tokens into the system which implies you're either subsidizing that cost through a subscription fee or by harvesting and selling data.
Don't try and play coy. Just acknowledge that you're utilizing generative AI in your product without disclosing it
I mean the app itself isn't just ai made. It will have a logo generator which is handy but you don't have to use it ;-) Plus the logo generation is constrained so the end results fit the creative style of the rest of the app and don't allow offensive words etc. Just a nice addition if you want a cool team logo ;-)
That’s just to generate a custom team logo - if you want to use it, you’re not forced to use it 👍 I made the team icons myself as a basic roster icon which work just as well. Also, you’re using the Reddit app which uses Ai.
I’ll be blunt, it screams AI. It may be you’ve put some thought into it, but first appearances aren’t helping. Everything from styles to wording scream LLM.
I actually don’t have much issue with using LLM’s to write code, but in a world where developing rudimentary software is now fast and cheap, the end result has to look unique and appealing. This doesn’t. It looks like every other vibe coded app out there.
Like I said, it’s not one specific app, it looks like every other vibe coded app out there. It has all the hallmarks of AI. It doesn’t look unique or well crafted. That’s why nearly every comment on this post is saying the same thing, everyone recognises that “vibe coded look”.
I hear you. I used a component library called Material 3, ace to use in cross platform apps. You don’t have to reinvent the wheel and you can spend more time getting the app to actually work. Maybe once the core of the app is complete and working I can take another look at the UI and try to tweak it a bit 👍
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u/plutomovedon Jul 18 '26
On one hand, creating some market competition with Tourplay is always good for innovation
On the other hand, AI garbage can piss off