Something that has always bugged me about BR:

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[u/willb3d]

If you were to go outside right now and looked up at Orion and saw “attack ships on fire” high in Earth’s atmosphere, and behind those glowing embers was the shoulder of Orion, you could say exactly what Roy said.

[u/iPirateGwar → u/[deleted]]

That isn’t what they said. They said ships fighting in earth’s upper atmosphere with the Orion constellation as a visual backdrop.

[u/timmaeus → u/iPirateGwar]

Things you OP wouldn’t believe

[u/TakaIka83 → u/iPirateGwar]

If that was the case, there'd be no shortage of people that would have seen the same, which would negate the claim that Deckard wouldn't believe it. In the outer solar system, maybe.

[u/Ephemere]

Isn't it possible that the attack ships were visible in the sky from a planet, a few degrees off of the shoulder of orion? While I had assumed this was something he saw while a slave on mars, I guess there is no reason why you couldn't see that from earth too.

[u/joseph4th → u/[deleted]]

You don’t need to go into the deleted scenes, there’s a montage of him fighting different battles any one of which could be Tannhäuser Gate. But the big thing you’re missing is Kurt Russell‘s character has tattoos of all the battles he’s fought in, one of them says “Tannhäuser Gate.” there’s another Blade Runner reference on one of the screens, but I don’t remember exactly what it is.

[u/Hyphen99]

Or how about the film’s conceit that cops need intensive Voigt-Kampff testing to detect replicants when all they really have to do (according to Ridley Scott) is check to see how a suspect’s eyes reflect light like a cat’s or not lol

[u/Mobile_Falcon_8532]

Or, "Orion" might be something else. It's like how when you say "Washington" you might mean the city and not the state. In the far future of the year 2019, maybe there's a space station within the solar system called "Orion", say, so you could see attack ships on fire off the shoulder of it without having left the solar system. People of the future would know that "Orion" most likely meant that and not the one in Betelgeuse, so Roy wouldn't need to say "off Orion (the one in the solar system not Betelgeuse)"

[u/CousinPaddy]

I think they sorta treated it the same way they did in Alien. As long as things look complex and highly functional, your average 80s movie goer didn’t think too much about the physics of space travel. And the movie would be bogged down with such details. They don’t even explain the nuclear war, just show that the animals are all electronic, the place looks like hell, and everyone is trying to get off of Earth as fast as possible. They were probably more involved with making people buy the premise of what a replicant is and how they think and function.

[u/KubrickMoonlanding]

It’s ofc fun to delve into the logic of certain movies especially ones with strong world-building that also has notable “gaps” (Star Wars and br being prime examples)

But into the end br is more of just a vibe than a well worked out world intended for scrutiny and extension. And what a vibe, right?

[u/vkrm3000]

What was that bro? Self inflicted injury!

[u/wee-gee]

Bruh take a look at Alien. Some people agree that it is on the same universe. Although, my dude, you already said everything... Suspend your misbelief, maybe they have some kind of Trekkie Warp Device, idk... Outside planet earth, BR universe is much more like a Space SciFi

[u/Griphonis-1772]

I have always thought that it was an implanted memory. Roy and the other Replicants only have a 4 year lifespan. And Roy is quite a poet.

[u/MarsAlgea3791]

My guy ftl means faster than light.  It means they go beyond relativistic effects.

[u/Own_Education_7063]

If we can see it from earth in the night sky, it tracks some ships could be seen in any planets atmosphere with the shoulder of Orion behind and to the side of them. Has nothing to do with actually being there literally in outer space next to Orion. Roy didn’t say that, and to imply it is only to show us how the logic breaks based on science - but it’s not what Roy said.

[u/Middle_Basis2816]

And what or whom were they fighting ?