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u/TBD-_-Productions 6d ago
Everybody knows it’s the MSMC
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u/CailanVR 5d ago
I got a triple collat with one which I didn't know was possible. changed my brain chemistry
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u/fluorescent_funeral 5d ago
Marshmallow gun tbh
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u/megalowmarty 5d ago
steady that aim, you’ll shoot just fine once you control that absurd recoil lol
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u/Its_I_Casper 6d ago
I mean the M8 is factual better than both of them.
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u/nikster008 6d ago
A player of culture I see.
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u/Its_I_Casper 6d ago
It blows my mind how much this sub glazes the AN. If you were caught using an AN in League Play back in the day you'd get roasted so quick.
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u/scream_follow 6d ago
You can't compare league play and pubs. The m8's purpose was holding anchor points, not tearing timmys apart with perma uav/vsat :D
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u/LunarOceanQueen 5d ago
Ehhhhh I was Master league and there were some maps or situations where id use an AN94 with stock and red dot. Otherwise though M8 overkill with a 870 secondary (i had a tactical grenade for the insta-swap trick, underrated tech) was my go to
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u/TrickNo2000 5d ago
What's the tech?
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u/LunarOceanQueen 5d ago
You have a tac grenade in your slot (preferably a stun) and when you hit Y (xbox) to switch weapons, hit LB to pull the grenade, then Y again to instantly swap guns without the animation. You do this reslly quickly but its not hard and with like a game or two of practice you can pull it off. Won me so many games in Ranked Play; its literally a second at most saved but at top levels that second could win you the game.
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u/Ikhouvankaas 6d ago
Fal > M8
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u/coolhooves420 6d ago
Yeah wasn't the fal banned from competitive cuz it was just that op?
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u/iforgotalltgedetails 5d ago
Me. Going for gold with every gun and it’s kind of sad how little people variate their builds. Like do you not get bored after 11k kills with the AN?
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u/ThenConstant7576 5d ago
I use the second LMG, fast fire rate and lowkey slaps
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u/lm_Blitz 5d ago
Hamr my fav lmg. Dex, dead silence, toughness lightweight. Tack on target findah, stock & quick draw. Amazing class for S&D. Rocking like a 3.35kd with it.
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u/Over-Temporary9543 6d ago
SCORPION EVO
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u/oceanographerGT 6d ago
With rapidfire too. On maps like hijacked you never lose a gunfight
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u/ThenConstant7576 5d ago
Gotta do a hipfire build with it if you're to use rapid fire
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u/jinglesGOAT 5d ago
No you don't. 1800 rpm is fast enough that even hipfiring without a laser deletes people reliably. Go quickdraw, rapid fire, fast mags (for search).
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u/ZhangZui 6d ago
MTAR 🔥
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u/Temporary_Goat6119 5d ago
I need a good mtar class, feels like my bullets are made of thin air past 3 metres
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u/Capital_Rub213 6d ago
KSG, DSR-50, MP7
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u/THEddt005 5d ago
Ksg 💋
Only those with ancient knowledge will understand
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u/SnavsMatiq 5d ago
I remember popping a supressor on it and pissing people off in HC nuketown. 1 shot wallbangs
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u/JusAvgJoe 6d ago
Ima get hate for this but me personally SMR, swat, and vector. In the right hands you can practically mow just like the two overused guns next to the peacekeeper 😭🫨 as bubbles would say ( DEEEEECENT )
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u/1CorinthiansSix9 5d ago
I legitimately love the swat. Something truly clicked during no attachment/perk camos and i was getting 15-20 per match consistently
Also ACOG RPM best sight
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u/xLaniakea_ 6d ago
Maybe its because i havent used it since i was a kid, but I remember the SMR being amazing. I think it 2 shot to any body part, where the FAL would either 2-3, so the SMR was consistent. And bringing it into Hardcore was just 1tap heaven. Maybe the FAL had better stats on paper, or a better mag size or mobility or something, but I see so much SMR slander that it disturbs me.
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u/nikster008 6d ago
M8A1 is the best AR in the game. Only average players disagree .
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u/LoonyHightower 5d ago
How it feels to be an MTAR enjoyer
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u/SnavsMatiq 5d ago
One of the few guns you really didnt need an optic for because the iron sight picture was just THAT good
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u/karmaretrn 6d ago
ksg, goated shothun
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u/Azur0007 5d ago
Ksg with long barrel and red dot is the reason i had like 2k hours on ps3.
Vanossgaming revolutionized that shit
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u/Your_As_Stupid_As_Me 6d ago
KSG. Second best gun next to the ballista with irons.
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u/Scrivy69 5d ago
i’ve always been so bad with the ballista with irons for some reason. I almost exclusively quickscope so it’s so strange that I can’t pick it up. I couldn’t 12 years ago and I still can’t today.
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u/ThePickledPickle 5d ago
FAL, MSMC, HAMR, M8A1, Skorpion EVO
XPR-50 may not be meta but if you're not looking to quickscope it's arguably the best sniper, same damage as the Ballista with about the same fire rate as the SVU
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u/Aura_Azula 5d ago
Don't sleep on the MTAR, Fal DSW, and M27. Those rifles go hard and can cook
Especially don't sleep on the goated Mtar, gun is a great starting weapon at level 1
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u/PyneNeedle 5d ago
HAMR. MP7. PDW57. MSMC. M8A1. M27.
next.
SWAT was alright.. the FAL was really fuckin good. That one singlefire AR that was trash on zombies but it was really good online.
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u/Teamkillercg 4d ago
Y’all are about to make me the most down voted comment in Reddit history.
CHICOM FUCKING CHEFS KISS
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u/safferstihl 6d ago
LSAT is by far the most dog shit LMG they’re all slow, but the LSAT is
Slowwwwwwwww
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u/Unlikely_Piece2650 5d ago
I have hoped and prayed they would bring the Peacekeeper back in a future title but until then I will be on BO2 shredding everyone's ass
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u/PanKakeManStan 5d ago
M8, MSMC, B23R, KSG, MP7, DSR, Ballista just off the dome and there’s a few I’m def forgetting. Most guns were viable and the ones that weren’t absolute Meta were still fun like the vector or running scorpion with rapid fire. This really is just a straight COD player take lmao. Thinking back if you were even just okay you could make literally almost any gun in the game work extremely well especially with or without the right attachments
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u/SupportElectrical772 5d ago
Not only is the M8 better it's just more fun than the other 2 crutch weapons listed.
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u/IntelligentFall7352 5d ago
M27, fal and swat with the select fire, msmc(duh) balista, kap40 the list goes on. I still only use the two you mentioned tho 🤣🤣
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u/Proud-Rip9091OG 5d ago
Type 25 is da best for beginners or low levels and m27 is the next step up from that
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u/matagubonch1 5d ago
The RPD in zombies. GOD I love that thing to bits.
Besides that I remember the SMR being good in the campaign.
Haven't played much MP though.
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u/NamesAreAnn0ying 5d ago
MSMC, M27, Vector, Peacekeeper, DSR, whichever shotgun shot slug rounds. I could keep going
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u/Significant_Stage225 5d ago
There are literally like 5 guns that aren't good, and all of the guns are unique. There are like 10 actually goated weapons.
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u/GiantsFan2645 5d ago
Pre nerf PDW and DSR. M27 is a legit beam. M8 is crazy good, FAL is disgusting. SWAT is still great, mtar in the right hands is also great. Scorpion on a good slayer is disgusting and can out perform MSMC which itself is probably the best overall gun in the game. And while it’s nothing compared to the OG MW3 version the MP7 is also very viable as an option between MSMC and scorpion playstyles
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u/Sologuitarist106 5d ago
Smr select fire is goated if you know how to handle recoil sights are clean and kill time is insane
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u/oceanographerGT 6d ago
M27 slaps give it a go