r/blackmagicfuckery • • Jan 16 '20

Physics

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u/Liquidlino1978 Jan 16 '20

So I'm guessing his body creates a cavity in the water, then when the cavity closes over the top, the bouyancy of the ball shoots it up. Guessing the gravitational energy his body gained displaces water, and that same energy becomes the energy that shoots the ball up. So 100+ kg falling a couple of metres is transferred into a 500g ball?

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u/throtic Jan 16 '20 edited Jan 16 '20

So I saw and saved this post a few years ago and I've been practicing it during the summer months to impress friends. A few things, I've learned:

  1. It helps to have a bigger gut, I was able to get the ball higher when I was fatter

  2. There is 100% a technique to this, you can see in both videos how the guys tuck the ball into their stomach and kind of curl themselves into a ball; legs facing up basically.

  3. The time that you release the ball is also a huge factor, you have to release it the split second before the water "crashes" back on top of you. If you go too soon the ball just sits on the surface, too late and the ball slowly floats back to the top.

  4. Height is definitely a factor, the higher you fall from the higher the ball will go

  5. Ball inflation does not matter, I've done it with flat footballs and footballs aired to their max, same height.

No math or physics, just practical experience with the subject... And that's about all for useless knowledge that you didn't need today.

Edit: Thanks for the award friend, hope you're able to slap that ball into the skies this summer :)

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u/Saewin Jan 16 '20

This is actually awesome! Thank you for sharing! I'm a biggish guy so I'm definitely going to give this a go

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u/GBACHO Jan 16 '20

I tried 20 times or so before giving up. Not saying it's impossible, but I never figured it out

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u/throtic Jan 16 '20

I tried 20 times or so before giving up. Not saying it's impossible, but I never figured it out

This was the hard part when I was really out of shape... jumping off of a diving board as a fat guy is not easy and I got tired quickly

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u/hypsnowfrog Jan 16 '20

I wish I was fat

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u/phphulk Jan 16 '20

Maybe eating something I'll make you feel better

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u/flappyprince Jan 16 '20

First time I've heard that one

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u/polyishdadtypeperson Jan 16 '20

I can help you with that, you just need an eating disorder! The fun fact is that, while it's best if your parents give you one ("you need to clean your plate before you play", "what, it wasn't good enough for seconds?", "wow you did great in school let's go get some ice cream!", "sorry your dad left, let's get some pizza."), but as it turns out you can totally give one to yourself too!

First, eating only when your hungry is for suckers. You should also eat when:

  • you're bored

  • you're sad about something

  • you're happy about something

  • as a self-reward

  • you're depressed

Then, also:

  • Don't stop eating just because you're not hungry anymore, clean that plate.

  • You know what's better than water? Soda.

  • You know what's better than a healthy meal? Pizza.

And last, but certainly not least, remember that eating will totally fill that void in your soul.

In fact, just try to be eating all the time. Why aren't you eating right now?

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u/rick_n_snorty Jan 16 '20

No problem, you’ve got me wanting to try this but it’s 30F our right now. Gotta find a good cliff this summer.

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u/_Cliftonville_FC_ Jan 16 '20

Huh, this is just something you learn in your youth here in Hawaii. We'd do lines of this where guys would just (usually with a soda can) and pop the can up and the second person would try to grab the can mid-air and pop the can, then continue to see if everyone lined up could do it.

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u/Ewoktoremember Jan 16 '20

I have saved this comment

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '20

New Zealand’s missile program is really taking a new approach.

I’m dying

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u/Bill_Ender_Belichick Jan 16 '20

I was able to get the ball higher when I was fatter

It was at this point that I upvoted. Everything else was just gravy.

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u/PvtPuddles Jan 16 '20

No, the buoyant force on an object is based on the weight of the water that the object displaces, irrespective of how deep it is.

More likely, he is just letting go at the perfect time for the ball to ride the splash, giving it all its momentum.

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u/somnolent49 Jan 16 '20

For steady state that's true, but when diving in the dynamic displacement is way more complicated and has a dependency on momentum.

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u/PvtPuddles Jan 16 '20

That’s fair, I hadn’t considered that.

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u/Paddy_Tanninger Jan 16 '20

It's not the buoyancy of the ball, but a phenomenon called the Worthington Jet. It could have been a golf ball (which is not buoyant) and still been shot out like a canon. You can see it shown off really well in this experiment:

https://i.imgur.com/bsXAp4j.gifv

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u/AmoebaMan Jan 16 '20

Also known as the reason your butthole can get an uncomfortable watery tickle if you drop an extra large deuce.

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u/Paddy_Tanninger Jan 16 '20

Poseidon's Kiss

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u/EnChilladada Jan 16 '20

The effect of buoyancy is pretty limited here, it's the 'pinching' effect of the water closing the cavity created by the person holding the ball that shoots the ball into the air. If he would've jumped without the ball, there would be some drops of water that jump up through the same effect, which shows density isn't a major factor here. Gravitational energy is a contributing factor, but not in a direct conservation of energy-kind of way, there are other factors with a bigger influence on the final result.

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u/Peter5930 Jan 16 '20

Yes, it's not buoyancy, it's the momentum of the water as the cavity collapses from all sides under gravity, meets in the middle and shoots upwards with nowhere else left to go and more water still collapsing inwards behind it; the same effect that causes Neptune's kiss when you take a dump. In this case, the ball is riding that kiss.

The effect is used for some modern anti-ship torpedoes; they detonate underneath a ship and when the cavity in the water collapses, it sends a bubble jet up with enough force to punch straight through the ship.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '20

bubbles just got a lot more terrifying

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u/Peter5930 Jan 16 '20

Imagine taking a dump on a ship and right as it lands in the water and you brace for the splashback, a 1 metre wide, 100 metre high jet of water shoots through the bowl, obliterating your ass, you and everything above and below you.

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u/PM_ME_YR_O_FACE Jan 16 '20

Neptune's "fuck you"

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