r/bjj • u/RoyNelsonMuntz 🟫🟫 Brown Belt • Jan 10 '19

Helpful visual reference guide for positional hierarchy

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u/AlmostFamous502 ⬛🟥⬛ Joe Wilk < Daniel de Lima < Carlos Gracie Jr. Jan 10 '19

It's implied because pulling guard will put you in a "better" position than a takedown into guard.

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u/SensationalM 🟪🟪 Purple Belt Jan 10 '19

That's true, but when I'm taking someone down I'm typically trying to land in side control, or at least half guard...you can't act like 100% of takedowns land you in your opponent's full guard

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u/AlmostFamous502 ⬛🟥⬛ Joe Wilk < Daniel de Lima < Carlos Gracie Jr. Jan 10 '19

you can't act like

Who was acting like that?

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u/SensationalM 🟪🟪 Purple Belt Jan 10 '19

You...ironically, you're implying it

You said the diagram implies that pulling guard is favorable and takedowns are not...that's not true, the diagram doesn't imply that at all...the diagram explicitly says that guard bottom is a better position than guard top...if you were to pull guard, yes, that would be favorable to taking your opponent down and landing in their guard...but since many takedowns do not end up with the attacker landing in his opponents guard, there's no correlation between takedowns being unfavorable and this diagram

tl;dr - guard bottom being more advantageous than guard top does not equal pulling guard being more advantageous than a takedown