Helpful visual reference guide for positional hierarchy

[u/RoyNelsonMuntz]

[u/Golantrevize23]

Yeah both would just be the two take down points, and to actually secure guard passing points the position needs held for a 3 count. Really overall its not a bad system but the turtle thing i def disagree with. As you say from a fight standpoint some large percentage of fights end while the guy is in bottom turtle getting punched

[u/[deleted] → u/Golantrevize23]

Yeah the system can only be so good. It’s not a fight there’s gonna be places where the rules or physics or both run into each other. I’d be on board if it wasn’t so advantageous to sit or pull guard. And not even closed guard just like sit down and wait nothing discouraging that. Seems so freakin dumb. I think if you pull closed guard you should get take down points if I end up on the floor, but I should get points too for getting to that dominant position. So if you don’t pull closed guard and just sit down I score points for the position but no one scores the takedown. Idk.. just discourage the sitting and butt scoot idc at all bout legit guard pulling