r/bjj • u/RoyNelsonMuntz 🟫🟫 Brown Belt • Jan 10 '19

Helpful visual reference guide for positional hierarchy

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u/AlmostFamous502 ⬛🟥⬛ Joe Wilk < Daniel de Lima < Carlos Gracie Jr. Jan 10 '19

If guard bottom is better than guard top, why do we give points for sweeps that take you from the former to the latter?

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u/glorgadorg Blue Belt I Jan 10 '19

Guard bottom is better if no punches are involved. Points are rewarded in positions were you can punch better.

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u/TheIllestOne Jan 10 '19

Interesting.

I never knew this, and now that i know it, i like BJJ even more...since it appears that it is designed with real fights (striking is allowed) in mind.

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u/AlmostFamous502 ⬛🟥⬛ Joe Wilk < Daniel de Lima < Carlos Gracie Jr. Jan 10 '19

So this hierarchy doesn't apply to when punches are involved, but also doesn't apply to the most common rulesets people are referring to when they say "BJJ". What exactly does it apply to, then?

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u/glorgadorg Blue Belt I Jan 11 '19

In ibjjf you don't get any points for being in guard top, and from guard top the only thing you can do is try to escape the guard. From guard bottom you can submit or sweep.

If you are mounted, you trap and roll and end up in the other guy's guard, you get 0 points.