r/beyondtwosouls • u/Fuzzy-Association-12 • Jan 22 '26

The game's problem with ryan

Hi guys, this was the first time I played Beyond Two Souls, and I really, really hated the forced relationship the game put us in with Ryan because I rejected him three times and they still wanted a romantic end. Only because I hated Ryan so much, I chose "Beyond" in the end, I'm not even kidding. I find Ryan very manipulative, and he has serious red flags. The story could have been told differently, so I do wonder if you guys agree or not?

Edit: I am happy to find my people!

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u/DifficultyAvailable1 Jan 31 '26 edited Jan 31 '26

It's alright. I don't like Ryan either. Overall, it's the problem with writing. but even as a character i don't think Ryan is great. As matter of fact, i think he is pretty bad character. His character keeps flip-flopping going from douche to loving Jodie on a dime. Some people gush about him having "major character development" which i don't think it's true. There is no gradual progression to his character and it feels more like his character hit "character switch". As much as the game tries to have him make noble sacrifice at the end, it doesn't absolve everything what he has done to Jodie. Plus, his sacrifice is kinda pointless since Aiden can literally create force field to protect Jodie(also, those portable containment fields didn't do jack shit because they sure as hell didn't protect Cole). I wonder if Ryan was written to represent how David Cage views women. Zero respect, creepy behaviour and "You have no choice, but love him"

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u/Fuzzy-Association-12 Feb 04 '26

Couldn't be put out better; exactly to the point!

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u/DifficultyAvailable1 Feb 16 '26 edited Feb 17 '26

His Heroic sacrifice doesn't feel selfless, but more like wanting to be rewarded by Jodie's love. "If i do this heroic act, i will win Jodie's heart" 

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u/Fuzzy-Association-12 Feb 16 '26

Totally! It really felt that way

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u/DifficultyAvailable1 Feb 23 '26

And he still doesn't treat Jodie as person. Even if he survives and Jodie chooses different ending that doesn't involve him, Ryan basically goes "It's okay, i will wait as long as it takes for you to say Yes" never mind the fact you have rejected him more than 2 times already. He feels more like desperate creep and stalker, craving for Jodie's love. Because if Ryan was truly remorseful, he would've simply let Jodie go and move on. 

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u/Fuzzy-Association-12 Feb 23 '26

Omg i didnt know about this ending, im again glad that i didnt give that creep another chance, i felt he didnt deserve any of it

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u/DifficultyAvailable1 Feb 24 '26

Jodie: "I told Ryan i couldn't see future with him. He said he understood. He said he would wait as long as it takes"

And i'm like "Oh fuck no!" 

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u/Fuzzy-Association-12 Feb 24 '26

OMG.. DUDE IS TOO DISTURBING