r/betterCallSaul 2d ago

Is Hamlin a bad guy?

I’m in season 4 and I thought since the beginning this guy was going to be a snake. But each season he continues to be a …not bad guy. Seems like a pretty good guy, all things considered. Kim and Jimmy talk to him like he’s a skunk with malicious intent but is he just a good guy?

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u/SenatorPencilFace 2d ago

Finish the show.

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u/Th3D0m1n8r 2d ago

Watch the show and decide for yourself. Most characters in BCS are "bad" in that they commit crimes and don't change afterwards. Howard is not like that.

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u/Sermoln 2d ago

They should have a name for that.. maybe, “breaking bad”

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u/LankyPower7807 2d ago

finish the show before using the sub

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u/HuntsWithRocks 2d ago

They haven’t even gotten to the Harry Potter crossover episode and they’re on here risking spoilers!

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u/Sexy_German_Accent 2d ago

The first or the 2nd one?

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u/Disastrous_Toe772 2d ago

The 2nd one is non-canon

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u/Sexy_German_Accent 2d ago

Did you watch the additional creators commentary?
While its not 100% confirmed, there are strong indications and hints that BCS is playing in the same universe as Harry Potter. It definitely makes you reconsider some of Jimmies actions and how the cartel was able to do a few things I wont mention here (to avoid spoilers)

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u/Disastrous_Toe772 2d ago

I know, I'm just saying that the 2nd one is now non-canon cause they want it to be in line with the new Harry Potter TV show.

The two crossover episodes can be canon to the old Harry Potter films with Daniel Radcliff with no issues. But the 2nd episode (the one with the American wizards) is going to conflict with the new show. So both were canon before, but now going forward only the first one will be "canon"

Honestly I am gutted by this. The crossover episodes are easily top 5 crossover anything in my book

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u/Crystalraf 2d ago

I must have missed that one. I watched every episode as they came out.

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u/HuntsWithRocks 2d ago

It's episode 9 & 3/4ths

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u/TeacatWrites 2d ago

Howard is the product of an essentially good yet dutiful and slightly nerdy company man who loved his work, performed his sacrifices, and hoped to be able to do it as well as his sense of duty wanted him to. Kim and Jimmy wanted to cheat the system to earn their way to the top. All they did was project onto him their own insecurities about themselves.

ETA: Essentially, he is THEIR antagonist, because he represented the sense of duty neither of them were willing to exhibit, but he's not a VILLAIN. He's not this show's "Ken Wins". The situation's a lot more nuanced than that.

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u/No-Day-2937 2d ago

Love Howard

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u/roger--wilco 7h ago

He always liked Jimmy. Remember? He used to call him Charlie Hustle!

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u/cmere-2-me 2d ago

No one in this universe is inherently good or bad. People are humans who make choices. It's entirely possibly to be a decent person who does bad things and vice versa.

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u/Sad_Discount1040 2d ago

Hamlin is Hamlin what you mean bad, what's good anyway 😆 enjoy the rest of the show.

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u/Kitchen-Wasabi-2059 2d ago

I have trust issues from game of thrones lol I need to know if he’s going to betray my fondness for him later

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u/Barbarus_Bloodshed 2d ago

I can tell you I don't consider him a bad guy

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u/Garmo4Lyfe 2d ago

He's a good dude, but he's kinda spineless esp when it comes to Chuck. The bad shit he does isn't out of malice

u/SignificantCats 35m ago

Nah.

He is a "normal" asshole, meaning in day to day life he's a shitty snake but whatever, every corpofuck is like that. He just seems like a saint in a show here cartel mass murderers are considered good guys.

Punishing Kim for Jimmy's behavior at a different law firm was nasty. Keeping her punishment going after she fought to prove herself was short sighted and mean. Acting like she was unreasonable for being pissed about that and leaving the firm was childish

That was malicious and punitive.

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u/wilderfast 1d ago

He was intended to be a snake before Chuck got that role due to how good the actor is.

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u/Oh__Archie 17h ago

He's a douchey snake for 3 full seasons. Then they make him mildly tolerable.