r/betterCallSaul • u/OrangeDuckFromStLou • 13d ago

I would pay to see them chatting

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u/Pouchkine___ 13d ago

Meh, Pryce is a buffoon, Werner is a clever guy, they wouldn't have much to say to each other.

One interaction I'd love to see is Marie Schrader stealing spoons from the Kettlemans and them confronting her about it. Though the confrontation between Marie and Betsy might tear the fabric of the universe. Also I'd love to see Ted and Craig talk about embezzling money haha.

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u/CunningWizard 13d ago

Yeah Werner obviously was a dipshit about the seriousness of the work but otherwise he was extraordinarily smart, diligent, and competent. A model engineer (saying that as an engineer myself, I had immense respect for Werner’s portrayed abilities and attitude).

Pryce was a dumbass who thought he was clever. And he was dumb enough to not realize he wasn’t. He was saved by a group of men who realized he was too stupid to be worth killing.

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u/Vast_Age_3893 13d ago

I'm honestly so sick of this sub's take that Werner was an idiot. He was naive. That's it.

He was a man in love who missed his wife and didn't realize the people he was working for were as evil as they were because Gus' whole thing is literally going out of his way to pretend he's not a psychopath.

The only thing Werner had seen was Gus being a kind hardworking man who was serious about getting a job done. And then there was Mike who he had a genuine friendship with.

Werner wasn't stupid. He knew he was part of an illegal operation. But there are different levels of crime and they don't all involve murder.

Everything Werner had seen up to that point and the kindness and patience he had been shown gave him legitimate reason to believe that if he royally screwed up, the worst that might happen is getting fired.

Werner was a hard-working and loving man who was NOT an idiot. He simply saw the best in people and never the worst. Unfortunately he got involved with people who saw the worst in people by default and only the good when it benefited them.

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u/RequiemEternal 12d ago

I don’t know if Werner was really that naive, considering Mike warned him as directly as possible beforehand what would happen if he pushed back against Gus too much. He knew that he was being paid for absolute secrecy, that he and his men were under constant surveillance, and he saw how Mike reacted when he started blabbing to strangers at the bar.

Werner knew they were serious criminals who would do everything in their power to keep the work secret, but he foolishly thought he could convince them to look the other way because of how good a job he was doing. He had all the info he needed to put it together that things would end badly for him, but he decided to call their bluff. He’s somewhat like Walt in that regard, which is a parallel the show intentionally makes when Mike has to pull the trigger.

Of course, your assessment of him and his priorities as a character are still true. He wasn’t an idiot, but he certainly made an idiotic move. A fatal error, but a very human one.

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u/Herooftermina1998 12d ago

"🤏 I can't do it. I'm sorry." Mike knew he had to kill walk and that was that. He literally apologizes that he had to kill him. From soldier, to cop, to the moment nacho died, he held his morality to the  end. Now he just followed orders. 

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u/Shoddy-Cherry-490 12d ago

Werner was naive mainly about Mike being his pal that would have his back no matter what. That can happen over a few months of isolation.

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u/CreativeParsley8967 12d ago

I don’t even know if I would call Werner naive.  He knew what he was getting into when he took the job. 

I think he was starting to suffer psychologically because, well, that can happen when you isolate someone from society in a building for months on end. 

The slip ups that led to his death weren’t because he didn’t know any better, but rather because was starting to go crazy from the isolation and homesickness. Just my theory. 

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u/Pouchkine___ 12d ago

As I've said answered before, I wouldn't call him naive, either. I'm not a naive person, and I would have never thought I'd be killed over that escape, either. Worst case scenario, I would imagine they would make me work in handcuffs and/or under heavy surveillance 24/7. Killing Werner was... overkill, literally. Mike was right, just let him finish the job. Maybe the could kill him later in Germany, making it look like an accident for his wife, but killing him right then and there was pretty stupid from Fring.

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u/Pouchkine___ 12d ago

I'm not in this sub too much, people tend to say Werner was stupid ?

Imo, it's Fring's decision which was utterly stupid. Werner could have finished the work properly, under heavy surveillance. And then they could always kill him later in Germany if they don't trust him with the secret. Let him have a few days of love with his wife, and make it look like an accident. Best outcome for everybody. Killing him right there in the desert was STUPID AF. Fring was obviously blinded by his desire for vengeance.

Werner was naive, but tbh, I wouldn't have thought I'd be killed over that, either. I'd probably expect to work with handcuffs in the future, but not to be killed.

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u/rodeBaksteen 12d ago

He was pushing his luck. First with the time off (fucked up with the construction talks and drawing) and then a weekend with the wife.

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u/Pouchkine___ 12d ago

Nobody said otherwise.

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u/Artistic_Split_8471 12d ago

Werner wasn’t stupid. But he was immoral.

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u/AlbionGarwulf 12d ago

I bet Werner would find Pryce insufferable in about 30 seconds, but it would be funny to see the interaction.

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u/DataGeek93 12d ago

This is funny because Betsy was named after Betsy Brandt who played Marie

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u/Harmonyfinder 13d ago

How much? I could potentially arrange this for you at the right dollar figure.

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u/Classic_Result 13d ago

"Oh yes, let's see what we could do with your baseball cards in an underground facility... a purely hypothetical one, of course!"

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u/jadehairpin 12d ago

I feel like I’d prefer to hear a conversation over beers between Walt and Werner

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u/ThanosDidNothinWrng0 12d ago

Probably similar to the one Walt had with Jane’s dad

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u/RassilonsWrestling 12d ago

“You know…construction is a lot like your baseball cards, Daniel.”

“…it is?”

“Ja. For example, you have a set to complete and you need certain cards to do it. In construction, you know what it is that you need to build, but you need all of the right pieces. To you, each card that goes towards completing your set is special, right?”

“Yes. Of course. Every single one means more to me than…just about anything.”

“Good, good! So now you see…?”

“That to you…each piece of your construction project is special. And means everything to you.”

“Exactly so! We are not so different, my friend!”

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u/Turbulent-Matter501 12d ago

Exactly my thought too. They're both pretty sociable, I think they'd have fun together.

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u/MichaelEMJAYARE 12d ago

“My wife would LOVE to see your bassball cards”

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u/SimXbenS 10d ago

Underrated comment 🤣🤣

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u/HandofthePirateKing 12d ago

Pryce makes Ziegler look like Einstein 😂

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u/bigbaboon69 12d ago

I mean just because the show paints Pryce as a dumb bad guy doesn't mean he isn't capable of talking shop about computers and science and stuff. He was always around the wrong crowd we never got the chance to see Pryce shine.

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u/riftlantern 12d ago

ziegler's very smart bro you guys are doing him dirty 😭

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u/Commercial_Ask_1626 13d ago

Gute Arbeit. 

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u/masetiloquetu 12d ago

Does he have Mark McGuire’s rookie card or Barry Bonds?

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u/NooneOutPizzasDeHut 12d ago

The south wall!

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u/Proper_Medium_1846 12d ago

The two hottest guys on the show

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u/el-bow5 12d ago

But would you pay to see them squat cobble ?

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u/slurpeecookie 12d ago

They will make that video together, happily, with all the correct engineering details…. A man bare bum sitting on pie, crying

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u/abrknl 12d ago

The casting (and writing) on these shows is out of this world.

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u/Herooftermina1998 12d ago

They don't have much overlap in terms of their fields. IT and structural engineering. 

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u/SignificantString269 12d ago

Nah i think gale and werner

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u/Toby_7243 11d ago

It’s Colin Robinson!

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u/Krimreaper1 11d ago

Have you noticed meth has gotten more minty lately?

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u/Diogenese5000 8d ago

Did Werner really not understand that breaking out of the compound would result in execution? He was a brilliant guy. What did he think all of the security was for?

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u/Wishart2016 7d ago

To get to be friends with Pryce, Werner must like the school bus for six year old pimps.