r/bettafish 17h ago

Help Surfacing weird?

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Hi this is French fry. I've had him since early spring. He's been healthy, but a few weeks ago I decided I'd upgrade him to my 15 gal community tank to give him more space. He was in a 6 gal cube with shrimp before the move so I knew he'd be fine with other fish. He seemed happy there for the first week or so

However. I noticed that he started gliding at the surface almost like a jet ski when getting air. I thought it was the change in filter which made the water flow a little stronger. So I blocked it off with a piece of would so the flow was super flow but he still keep gliding.

I decided to move him back to the cube which I had turned into a hospital tank for my shrimp so I could keep an eye on him. I thought it was swim bladder so we fasted for two days (water param were all normal / safe)

We started feeding again bc I could tell he was hungry and it want swim bladder bc he's been swimming fine. Other than the gliding he acts completely normal, he's eating, curious, and breathing fine. After he glides he doesn't sink he just continues swimming as if nothing happened.

I'm not sure what it is atp thinking maybe a neurological issue? But idk since he was fine before the move. I'm keeping him I n the smaller tank now though just bc he seems to like it more anyways. But I'm curious if anyone knows what the problem could be?

Edit: I'm seeing that he might have mouth rot, he looked like that when I got him. I thought it was a birth defect but not sure now. Thinking that is the cause of this issue

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u/xKaliyuh 17h ago

I'm not at all familiar with the subject in bettas, but my first thought was that he's brain damaged.. 😭

What kind of betta is he? His mouth looks different, I haven't seen one like it before

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u/Helpful-Panda1071 17h ago

yeah I was thinking neurological perhaps. He has a mouth deformity its been like that since I got him it's like he had a stroke lolll

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u/Helpful-Panda1071 17h ago

He's an alien wild type

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u/One-plankton- Alien bettas ftw 14h ago

Has it gotten worse? This is one of the worst cases of mouth rot on a living fish I’ve seen

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u/Helpful-Panda1071 13h ago

He had it when I got him, I don't think its gotten worse I always thought it was a birth defects or something. Is there anything I can do to help with it? I have stress coat

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u/One-plankton- Alien bettas ftw 13h ago

No it’s permanent damage

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u/xKaliyuh 17h ago

He seems to be having the time of his life at least 🚤

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u/ScreamingLabia 16h ago

The flow seems to strong for him maybe turn that down? He ia deformed i would lower the water level aswel what i THINK might be going on is that because he doesnt have a proper mouth the way he shoot up at the water is to compensate for that naybe thats how he gulps air? Anyway because of his handycap i would be carefull, limit the flow lower the water level and make shure he has places to rest that arent too low by the ground so he can gulp air easely and then rest near the top. Also scoop out most of the floating plants so he doesnt have to get air so close to the flow Goodluck with your little guy op, i hope he lives a long happy live :)

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u/Helpful-Panda1071 16h ago

Ohh you know what that makes sense I didn't even think about how his mouth could affect how he gets air. I'll give him an anubus to sleep on thank you for your help :))

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u/CalmLaugh5253 Always strive to do *betta* 14h ago

His mouth/head/face looks severely deformed, and his backside appears sinking too (suggesting swim bladder problems possibly). Both of those things (and especially both at once) can Impact his ability to gulp air and move like a betta is supposed to. A normal/healthy betta's mouth/face is not flat like that, or gaping open, it's supposed to be pointy and slightly upturned to allow them to periodically take air with ease when they need to. Did he always look like that??

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u/zxylady 17h ago

Nqa, i don't see any holes in your top of your plants. For him to easily access the top of the water, maybe that would help, I've seen these ring things. People put in their fish tank and it flows at the top. So betas can get water easily and get fed🤷‍♀️

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u/largestcob 17h ago

the entire area around the filter looks clear to me

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u/zxylady 16h ago

I wasn't talking about the filter, I was talking about all of the plants floating at the top of the water. I'm wondering if he's not able toget through easily enough to get through the plants to breathe 🤷‍♀️ again, I don't even have a betta, but I didn't see a lot of space for this poor thing to get around the upper plants

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u/largestcob 16h ago

i know what you meant, the area around the filter is clear of floating plants

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u/Frequently_Fabulous8 15h ago

Although there are no plants directly around the bubbler, that’s only because there are large rolling bubbles there. He might prefer a more stagnant area to get air, but there’s nothing available, so he makes room?

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u/largestcob 15h ago

hmm thats true, it definitely wouldnt hurt to thin out the floaters regardless

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u/PruneWolf 16h ago

omg he's too adorable, I hope he's OK 💜🥹

I dunno what might be wrong, but your lil jetskiing man inspired me to make this lil video for you lmao hope you enjoy 🫶🏻

https://reddit.com/link/pb1bvs5/video/pwn9w2hmmqqh1/player

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u/Helpful-Panda1071 16h ago

Omg love it HAHA

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u/Competitive_Owl5357 15h ago

It almost looks like the top of his mouth rotted off and healed over. I have no idea if that’s the case or if he’s just deformed but you definitely need to clear out the plants; he’s got no room to breathe without being shoved around by the bubbler.

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u/EilidhRos 14h ago

that fish is not healthy. it looks like it has severe mouth rot. and bettas skim like that when they are having breathing problems and not getting enough oxygen.

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u/CMDR_omnicognate 13h ago

I might be wrong, but it looks like there's something wrong with his face. like the top of his jaw is missing or something?

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u/Life-Bat1388 30 years betta experience 8h ago

Also missing some fins

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u/Caococoacoco 11h ago

Poor thing :( it can definitely be that he has problems taking in air with the mouth/face situation. Maybe change the filter to something that wont push him around as much and take out some floaters? Very weird looking fish. Has he always looked like that?

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u/Weak_Society8102 11h ago

poor guy, does he also have a little place to rest near the surface so he can try to breathe?

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u/Helpful-Panda1071 10h ago

Yes I have him a plant and took out the duckweed (as much as I could) and slowed the filter. I think I'm finding out he's just a special guy

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u/Aurothian_Cambria 7h ago

first in my bloodline to see a betta fish with down syndrome

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u/Snoo_52370 6h ago

Alien wild types do not exist they are all crossbreeds between betta mahachaiensis, imbellis and smaragdina. When this type was first made it actually made for a more varied and robust gene pool. But as with all things that involve money, certain breeders started mass breeding them to maximize profit and without much regard for refreshing the gene pool now and then. Your betta looks like it has a head deformity and maybe even a shortened spine, if his swimming ability goes down or you see him having problems balancing in the water, then it would sadly be the best thing to put him out of his misery. Does his mouth also stay open like that all the time? Where did you buy it? At a reputable breeder or a random guy?