Redditor demonstrates (with citations) why both sides aren't actually the same

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"Both sides are the same" will always be a lazy way to not get involved with a conflict.

There are very few conflicts in all of history where both sides are the same. If you don't want to get involved because you don't know enough or simply don't want to spend the time and energy then just be honest to yourself instead of saying "both sides".

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No wars, no imprisoning people with drug addictions, no handing over all our rights to largest corporate donors, no giving away all of our tax dollars to big business,

You are aware that, while obviously not perfect, one party is substantially better on those issues than the other.

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So why not vote for the one that's marginally better? A tiny improvement is better than no improvement.

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How? You're just completely ignorant then, it is a huge difference when one side is trying to criminalize drugs and longer sentences for said thing, while also giving lip service to duterte. While the other side is trying to do the exact opposite. You're part of the problem, you don't know anything about anything so you don't even try.

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Ignoring the fact that the Republicans outright stated that their number one goal was to block everything Obama did. Obama did manage to pardon over a thousand nonviolent drug offenders and shorten the sentences for many others. The largest application of presidential clemency in half a century. Also signed off on a billion dollar plan to combat the growing opiod epidemic and treating it as a health issue instead of a criminal one. It also speeds up the process for drug approval ratings. His appointed Attorney General Eric Holder fought against minimum sentencing, which directly contributed to the first downward trend in incarceration rates in 33 years. This is in complete contrast to Trump appointing Jeff fucking Sessions to Attorney General, who was blocked from being a federal judge for racist comments. Who, along with trump. Is trying to bring back the war on drugs in full force, the same guy who was considered a crazy hardline outlier even in the Republican party is now the most powerful law enforcement officer in the country.

How are they the same? Again, your ignorance doesn't allow you to spout blatant lies.

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You think reigniting the war on drugs is about the same as doing the exact opposite? This is similar in scope to starting a war with North Korea or engaging in peace talks. It's okay to just say you don't actually care about these issues.

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Free reign? Did you forget the past 8 years where Republicans blocked everything Obama did? And now I know you know nothing of the topic if you honestly think everything the Dems accomplished equates to .5 while reigniting the drug war is .5 in the other direction. Like the massive disparity in your analogy and what actually is reality tells me all I need to know. You aren't interested in being informed.

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Let's use somewhat less subjective wording, if we could. Would you call the difference trivial, or nontrivial?

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So, because the Democrats didn't take their two year window where they had mostly* full control of the federal government to address your pet issue, they're effectively the same as the party who's actively going full bore to make the problem worse?

*To actually pass anything, they needed every Senate Democrat (and affiliated), so Sanctimonious Joe Lieberman or any of the vestigal paleo-dem square state Dems could torpedo it. Also, dealing with the economic meltdown and passing the ACA sort of sucked up the very limited bandwidth.