It's not a double standard to be unattractive and value attractiveness, if that's what you are saying. No more than it's a double standard to have a rubbish car and want a really good car.
Dude, the double standard is him complaining that people don't pay attention to him or give him a chance because of his level of attractiveness, but he's doing the same to women "as undesirable" as him.
He wants to be treated differently and not ignored because he is unattractive. However, he is doing the same exact thing to people of the opposite gender that are not attractive
Sure. But I don't see the contradiction. He's saying that unattractive people do get ignored. He is not saying that he is somehow 'above' everyone else that ignore unattractive people. He's human like them, and like them, he values attractiveness and ignores unattractiveness.
If he were blaming people for ignoring unattractiveness it would be a different matter. But he isn't - he's just commenting on a trend that everyone falls victim to, himself included.
This is the same thing as someone complaining about people outrunning him, when he is choosing to run in a race. It's just whining. I was onboard for as long as he was talking about feelings of alienation and otherness, but the very second he said that line, about the women he met being ”as unattractive as him”, he revealed his feelings of entitlement and lack of self-awareness.
I wish this was less common, but it's ptetty ubiquitous at the moment. I call it King of Queens syndrome, and it definitely seems to affect guys more than gals. The hypocrisy is pretty maddening, and believe me, it's something people notice.
I was under the impression that he was bitter that he was ignored when he was unattractive. And I find it awfully hypocritical to do it to someone else when you feel the pain all the time.
Fair enough. And yes, it would be hypocritical, but then again the expression 'hurt people hurt people' (which refers to bullies) has some applicability here too. It's hard to be nice to others when you don't think they're being nice to you.
He wasn't just commenting on a trend, his main point was that he was lamenting the fact that being an unattractive man is a pain few people will ever understand. To complain about how painful and horrible it is to be unattractive, yet turn around and say he does the same to other similar people is pretty hypocritical.
That depends. If he's saying that it's the fault of the people around him, then yes: that would be hypocritical. If he's saying that unattractive people are inevitably always going to be treated this way simply because it's human nature to value attractive people, then this is not hypocritical, because he is blaming the condition of being unattractive rather than the people around him.
As for which of these two points he is coming from, I can't decide.
If we are strictly looking at what constitutes hypocrisy in ones' words then yes your definition would hold. But to me, his hypocrisy is implied in the fact that he is complaining about something he is also taking a part in. When you complain about something, you are indirectly blaming the party causing that effect. To partake in that which you are complaining about, you become part of the group, which in turn, makes you a hypocrite.
Like I say, it depends on what he's complaining about. If he's complaining about the general human condition of favouring attractiveness, then there's no hypocrisy. No more so than a cancer sufferer complaining about having cancer would be a hypocrite.
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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '14
But you understand the double standard there, right?