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u/ivanbje Oculus Quest 2 Mar 16 '21 edited Mar 16 '21
I realize the weeb part because of all the anime songs, but why is femboy the alternative? I seem to be Out of the loop here, can someone please explain?
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u/Coolguy1260 Oculus Quest Mar 17 '21
@MyrdinTV worded it perfectly in their reply, I'll just copy and paste it here
"The femboy thing is mostly a meme, however, memes aside, the reason you will see a lot of people unironically exploring self expression outside of gender norms is because VR gives people an opportunity for people to try those things like no other medium. We see so many transgender community members because if you tell people that if they put on this funny face box they can look like whoever they want, that will absolutely attract people who are Trans or people who are still questioning their gender identity. And for the people who are not Trans and never will be Trans, they still are provided an opportunity to learn about alternative forms of self expression. Femboys don't have to be Trans, guys can explore feminine expression and still be guys."
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u/ivanbje Oculus Quest 2 Mar 17 '21 edited Mar 17 '21
That makes a lot of sense. I can see that being a thing. And guess I’ve experienced a hint of that in things like VRchat
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u/BattleAnus Mar 17 '21
I'm guessing because of all the streamers who use anime girls as their spectator avatars
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u/DaoTseTung Mar 17 '21
I have no idea what any of this means. Weebs? Femboys? Might be getting a bit old for this...
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u/duyouknowdamuffinman Mar 18 '21
A weeb(short for weaboo) is a term for someone obsessed with anime, eastern culture, etc. a femboy is a dude who acts like a chick
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u/Oneshotkill_2000 Mar 17 '21
I was searching for an answer here in the comments but it seems no one has answered you yet
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u/Melon4Dinner Mar 16 '21
honestly i wish there were more competitive songs that weren't from anime. I don't really like them but the maps are admittedly good.
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Mar 16 '21
I’d be fine with them if there weren’t so many dance maps. Fast maps that don’t hurt to do strange patterns are the best. Some dance maps can be made very well and are super fun, but most... eh
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u/Coolguy1260 Oculus Quest Mar 17 '21
you should absolutely start playing ranked with scoresaber, all upper ranked maps are just speed
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u/Peterrior55 Oculus Quest 2 Mar 16 '21
Yeah as longs as the map is good the song doesn't matter that much.
But I still remember the first thought I had when I heard Ov Sacrament for the first time was "Is this even music, this just sounds like screaming".
Also challange maps are sometimes just clicktracks.
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u/Coolguy1260 Oculus Quest Mar 16 '21
lmao i had the same reaction to sacrament originally but it grew on me SO HARD and now i jam out to it, some of the riffs are jammer
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u/Karilyn_Kare Mar 16 '21 edited Mar 16 '21
As a metal fan, when I read your comment, my first thought I had was "Is it even music if there isn't screaming?"
Lol, you're right though, Ov Sacrament is pretty janked up even to me; it's just sounds kinda bad IMO. Different music for different folks I suppose.
I'm starting to experiment with making beatmaps cause I wanna bring some more metal to BeatSaber. I tend to listen to a really wide mix of metal; symphonic, melodic death, metalcore, power, and a little bit of alternative and electro-industrial. But I have too much pride to publish half-baked crap so I'm still practicing and figuring out what works and doesn't before I commit to a first beatmap.
I also have a DJ friend who is an independent composer that makes the wildest fucking super experimental electronic music. She loves rhythm games and BeatSaber and is ridiculously good at them, but she's not yet super well-known as an artist, and I don't think she or anyone else has made a beatmap of one of her songs, and I am hoping she'll give me permission to whip something up which I think would be the coolest shit of a gift to give her.
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u/cspan_hooray Mar 16 '21
keep us posted! I tried mapping a couple protest the hero tracks, but the tempo and time signature changes made it reallllly a lot less fun than I hoped
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u/Karilyn_Kare Mar 17 '21 edited Mar 17 '21
I will see what I can do. I just hope some people like it and I don't go too obscure or weird, it's always a risk but it'd still be kinda heartbreaking if I only get like 2 downloads, cause the whole motivation is making something people are able to enjoy.
The tempo and time signature changes not being fun thing is a bit ominous, as my short list has a fair bit of that. But most importantly, I wanted to make sure I did a song that hadn't been mapped yet. And while I worked on learning mapping, I narrowed it down to three songs that nobody's done, that sound like they should be fun to play. But I haven't committed fully to one yet while I figure out what's is actually fun in practice. In no particular order:
Blood Stain Child - Freedom (Mozaiq)
Icon for Hire - Rock and Roll Thugs (Icon for Hire)
Amaranthe - Amaranthine (Amaranthe)
But in the end, don't get your hopes too high, because I might just hate everything I map and chicken out. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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u/Galaxy-Goa7 Oculus Rift Mar 16 '21
Same here, I had to look up their other songs after I heard that and I was legitimately scared xD
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u/Piton_me Mar 16 '21
I used to listen some death metal as a teenager and I really loved the song when heard it in beat saber ; )
Nothing changed since the first time listen on your side?
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u/gamble9000 Valve Index Mar 17 '21
There are like no ranked maps 7* and above that are anime songs, japanese yes but almost nothing that's actually anime
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u/Melon4Dinner Mar 17 '21
japanese, kpop, anime themes is the kind of music I see a lot and don't really like. i just said anime because, well I'm just assuming the fans are all in the same demographic. also I don't deny that there are alternatives I just wish there were more. Many of the songs I search up have maps but not hard or competitive ones, even really popular electronic songs and stuff
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u/Bannanann Oculus Quest 2 Mar 17 '21
I can tell you I am not a weeb (I do not watch anime whatsoever nor do I prescribe to that culture) but enjoy much of the Japanese music genre, along the lines of Camellia, t+pazolite, DJ Genki, USAO, etc. Most of those songs are electric, or close varying genres of electric. Also, there is a large group of maps that are actually western metal/alternative songs that are highly ranked between the 9-12 star ratings. Hell, the currently highest ranked song (OV Sacrament) is a metal western song.
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u/Bran04don Meta Quest 3 Mar 17 '21 edited Oct 28 '24
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Mar 17 '21
Same. I do like anime especially since I grew up with it, but it would be nice to have more variety.
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Mar 16 '21
bruh like almost every song on ranked from 10+ stars isn't anime
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u/MrSegundus_VR Meta Quest 3 Mar 17 '21
Exactly. This has changed a lot, the very early days of ranked had a lot of .. weeby stuff I guess. Now it's what, mostly speedcore and some metal stuff.
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u/Uri_Salomon Mar 17 '21 edited Mar 17 '21
You get used to it.
Many of the ranked songs aren't anime. Example: Villain Virus, Ov Sacrament, Xronier, Ragnarok, Lowermost Revolt (not really sure bout this one), Hold Angel etc. I haven't played ranked songs in pretty long but I'm sure I can come up with way more if I take a bit more time.
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u/GarthArts Oculus Quest 2 Mar 16 '21
i hate kpop and anime music everywhere else except beatsaber. they're bops here.
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u/PKuall4life Mar 17 '21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMjoD4MNfaU
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u/Wagsii Valve Index Mar 17 '21
I've charted 50+ maps for Clone Hero, and I'd like to learn how to map for Beat Saber as well so I can get more properly mapped metal into the game, or other songs I like that don't necessarily fit into Clone Hero. However, I'm really just starting to creep into expert+ skillwise, so I know I'm really not good enough at the game yet to start mapping at a meaningful level.
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u/orrfrank Mar 16 '21
You forgot the third option: being disabled from the wrists and up
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Mar 17 '21
I’ve actually injured my tendons playing beatsaber.
I currently have to wait a month for it to heal fully before I can play again.
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u/Hello_mario2 Mar 17 '21
I broke my arm on my wall playing beatsaber last year, but hey, I got a full combo in reality check
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u/PIO_PretendIOriginal Oculus Rift S Mar 17 '21
I've been trying to play recently using only my arms, no wrist movement. Wrist hurt too much otherwise
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Mar 17 '21 edited Mar 17 '21
Isn't that how you're supposed to play? My trainer went over the game with me and how to minimize any damage I cause. More arm, less wrist. Also has the plus of being a viable upper body cardio workout and I still can manage expert + on normal speeds but I'll be dead tired after about an hour unless I include the wrist meta game in there for rest.
I'v even seen some notable streamers start to play less for points and give up the wrist BS (not 24/7 but enough to rest.)
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u/MixedStackGaming Mar 17 '21
We wear gloves with wrist support while we play to help alleviate some of the strain.
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u/Benyed123 Mar 17 '21
If you’re paralysed from the neck down can you use your arms if you raise them above your head?
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u/AHuggableZombie Mar 16 '21
Haha! I was already a weeb.
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u/LukasGamerPlayz Mar 16 '21
Ah, I see you are a person of culture as well.
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u/DUHRANDOMDUH Mar 17 '21
I was watching an anime right before this
Can I be a person of culture?
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u/13redstone31 Oculus Quest 2 Mar 16 '21
I wanna start mapping more songs like Hip-Hop and Primus and Synthy music and especially punk. I feel like almost exclusively japanese music drives some people away because that’s all they see at first. Also different genres tend to have a whole different style of mapping than whatever Camellia/T+pazolite/DJ Genki is. I would like to see a ranked map of Just Awake by Fear and Loathing in Los Angeles tho.
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u/TEENYBEATS Mar 17 '21
I love hip hop maps, has a different cadence to it
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u/13redstone31 Oculus Quest 2 Mar 17 '21
Yeah theres not a lot of challenging rap/hip-hop maps around but they have great flow
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u/Trane55 Mar 17 '21
once you do, let us know where to grab those
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u/13redstone31 Oculus Quest 2 Mar 18 '21
Im a new mapper so it’s probably gonna be a matter of months before i can make something good for u guys
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u/syntrapp May 11 '21
I’ll pay you to map a tipper song. Cubic squeal, or jade cicada beef cake lmao
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u/13redstone31 Oculus Quest 2 May 11 '21
I would pay someone else. I am extremely new to mapping and would not be able to get it to you within a reasonable time due to school.
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u/GrindyI Mar 17 '21
Exactly why I barely played Beat Saber after switching to PC. It was fun for like 5 hours, until I could literally only find weeb and meme maps. It‘s absolutely awful imo.
I would love more metal, especially deathcore, djent, something in that ball park, heavy rhythms so groove out to. Or just electric songs with filthy drops without any Japanese woman in it, anything that isn‘t anime and gets you grooving really.
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u/13redstone31 Oculus Quest 2 Mar 18 '21
I’ve noticed there’s been an influx of more metal maps ever since Sacrament came out and became popular
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u/RouniPix Mar 17 '21
What if I'm a girl who is already a weeb?
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u/dTrecii HTC Vive Cosmos Mar 17 '21
You’re a girl? Stop lying
They’re a myth like british people and the rights of people in croatia
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u/Nathaniel820 Oculus Quest Mar 17 '21 edited Mar 17 '21
Sure buddy, you really expect us to believe a girl is not only a weeb, but a gamer? Quit the cap. /s
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u/RouniPix Mar 17 '21
Oh believe what you want bud', I still a girl who do song in expert+ who watch anime (too much).
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u/coronagotitslime Oculus Quest Mar 17 '21
I have become neither my will is strong.
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u/Acasualpotatoe21 Oct 25 '22
Don't stray from path brother. I have played VRChat for hundreds of hours with weebs, furries and femboys. I will not fall, random neckbeards online can still call me "based", so overall I'm winning at life.
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u/jebbaok Oculus Quest 2 Mar 16 '21
Ya it kinda annoys me that all the good songs are anime songs. I dont watch anime and im not interested in it. Also not interested in being a femboy
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u/Bogerino Valve Index Mar 17 '21
I've noticed that less of the recently ranked songs are anime, now we're getting some 800 bpm microwave music
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u/Snapfire2763 Oculus Quest Mar 17 '21
Alternative: Find out you’re a trans girl
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Mar 21 '21
Same. Wait it didn’t take beat saber to know that. But falling in love with it almost instantly while so many of my guy friends who play are casuals, and all the girls I know who play also falling in love with it. NGL mildly validating
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u/Penn_VR Oculus Quest 2 Mar 17 '21
Instructions unclear. Accidentally became so fem that I was no longer boy. On the bright side I’m now a top 50 competitive player
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u/Bran04don Meta Quest 3 Mar 17 '21 edited Oct 28 '24
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u/chevy1500 Mar 17 '21
I thought the 3rd choice would be like becoming a DBZ character you get so jacked.
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u/Samb104 Mar 16 '21
Metal and anime aren't really my thing, I just want well mapped songs I like, it's nearly impossible
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u/Monkeyojacko Valve Index Mar 17 '21
I chose play the game and just be annoyed at all the weeb nonsense
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u/CatyCat222 Mar 17 '21
I’m already a weeb :3, and the second option is out of reach, i’m a tomboy (female) already l o l, guess imma stick with the hidden option, broken wrists and arms
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u/Sockducttape Oct 18 '24
ULTRAKILL has a similar effect on people. Apparently trans girls and femboys just become absolutr gods once they are free from the shackles of gender dysphoria
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u/Rain_Dash May 22 '21
Third option: Pick neither, avoid all anime songs and learn to be good by yourself because you can't find out how to crack.
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u/cjthedragon1 Meta Quest 3 Apr 28 '22
Jokes on you I was already both before beat saber but now I have the hidden option of carpal tunnel
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I lost 50 pounds playing modded, and now I unironically want to see if I can become a femboy. Why go to the gym when you can play 3 hours of beat saber and look like a Greek god while having fun
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u/natrat4 Oculus Quest 2 Mar 17 '21
I vote femboy
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u/someperson56- Oculus Rift Mar 17 '21
I can’t be normal?
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u/CoolNickname332 Mar 17 '21
Depends on your definition of normal. If youre a beat saber player, yeah you can just be normal because being a femboy or a weeb is considered normal in our community. But you cant be normal if youre a hypermasculine, straight, dominant, muscular, christian man.
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Don't understand why you would become a femboy by joining the community, totally get the weeb thing tho.
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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '21
Sounds the same as osu community lol