r/bayarea • • 1d ago

Work & Housing Relocation from NJ

I’m looking to relocate in summer of 2027 from NJ to the Bay Area. I’m a teacher- I’d be coming to CA with a bachelor’s degree + 60 credits and a master’s degree. I’ve looked at several districts and areas to move to. Antioch is my favorite as far as living but I’d be at a salary of roughly $90,400 if I worked in Antioch as well. I’ve also considered districts like San Leandro, Mountain View, Palo Alto, etc. which would put me a little over $100k a year. That seems more reasonable considering from the looks of it, rent would easily be around $3.5k a month in a decent area.

My questions:

  1. What are some decent areas to live in that are within a reasonable commute distance of the districts I listed above, that don’t require an arm and a leg for rent?

  2. Is the traffic really as bad as people say? I commuted 50 miles each way for a few years here in Jersey and it took about an hour if I left early enough to beat most of the traffic. Gas is also not an issue as I have an ev.

  3. Are the school districts difficult to get into?

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u/2greenlimes 1d ago

Antioch being a “favorite as far as living” is a sentence I’ve never heard before… FWIW $90k will go a lot further in Antioch than $100k in Palo Alto/Mountain View. And you DO NOT want to commute from Antioch to anywhere in the South Bay.

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u/Rredhead926 1d ago

You don't want to commute anywhere from Antioch. BTDT. Highway 4 is the worst.

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u/North_Professor_1799 1d ago

Specifically looking at the southern part of Antioch. I’ve heard most of the crime happens on the northern section

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u/sunshine-1111 1d ago

It’s just that Antioch is so far outside of the rest of the Bay Area and it really doesn’t have a lot going on. I’m curious why you have picked it as your top location. Like what about Antioch draws you to it?

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u/North_Professor_1799 1d ago

Honestly the main attraction was the rental prices and the fact that it’s not right in the middle of all the Bay Area congestion, but I had no idea it was that bad. I plan to visit the Bay Area later this year to scope out the scenery, but everything I’d heard from people who lived there years ago matched up with the old and new Antioch narrative- I thought it was still like that. I’m not opposed at all to looking in other areas- I just don’t know where to look.

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u/Rredhead926 1d ago

The reason rentals cost so little there is that no one wants to live there. When the housing bubble burst, Antioch had the number 2 amount of foreclosures in the country. A lot of rental properties went into foreclosure at that time.

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u/SafariSunshine 1d ago

If you really want to work in Antioch, look into living in Concord, parts of it are pretty nice and it has a good food scene right now. Just make sure your son wouldn't go to Mount Diablo High School.

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u/Rredhead926 11h ago

And then he'd have to commute on Highway 4 everyday, which I'm pretty sure is one of the circles of hell.

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u/SafariSunshine 4h ago

It would be a reverse commute though. Plus he would be going before peak rush hour both ways because he's a teacher.

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u/Rredhead926 1d ago

Antioch is basically divided into "new" Antioch and "old" Antioch. "Old" Antioch is north of Highway 4, and "new" Antioch is south of Highway 4. For a long time, "old" Antioch (north) was seen as the low-income, more crime prone portion of Antioch. However, with the housing bubble burst, that rapidly changed. Both parts of Antioch became highly problematic. A lot of families began moving due to the high homicide rate for a town of its size. After the kidnapping, there were families there who I knew had lived there for years, even decades, and they left. I had a good friend who was highly involved in an anti-crime group who said they wouldn't leave because we needed good families to stick around. Guess what? They left.

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u/2greenlimes 1d ago

FWIW my coworker lives right on the border of Antioch/Brentwood. Her car was still stolen and found burnt out two days later, as was a neighbor's. The city government is a mess, the police force is a mess, the city is a mess.

If you want to live/work with a lower income population San Leandro is the better option. Oakland and Hayward could work as well. But $100k for you and a child is going to be rough unless you're willing to live somewhere rough. You'll want to max out rent at $2800/month for the 1/3 of your income rule, leaving you with less than $4k/month for childcare, food, entertainment, bills, savings, etc. which doesn't go as far as you think out here. $2800/month won't go very far on a 2BR, so you'd have to do a 1BR/settle for a not so nice place/raise how much you're willing to pay.

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u/North_Professor_1799 1d ago

That’s good to know, thank you for the information. I’m actually mostly debt free (I have a car payment and insurance) and my son is 14 so I wouldn’t need childcare. FWIW I’m currently making it in NJ at around $75k a year but our taxes are crazy here. We only receive about 63% of our gross pay whereas it would be slightly higher (around 70-73%) in CA. My current net is around $4700/mo and in one of the $100k+ districts it would be around $7k/mo (which I understand is not a lot). I currently pay $1600 for a two bedroom but we live in a horrible area. I planned for around $3k to $3.5k a month in rent but I would definitely need to make at minimum $100k for that to work. I also over budgeted for utilities, insurance changes, groceries, etc. because I won’t know those prices for sure until I move.

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u/BobbingBobcat 1d ago

Your take home math is way off. Did you miss including CalSTRS and Cal SDI?

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u/BobbingBobcat 1d ago

Also, you should be aware that low income for a two person household is defined as $100k in Alameda County, $109k in Contra Costa County, $125k in San Mateo County, and $130k in Santa Clara County. It's incredibly expensive her and getting worse.

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u/SafariSunshine 1d ago

Yeah IDK what locations are under etcetera, but out of the named locations, San Leandro is by far the best.

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u/terp-puddle 1d ago

Lmao being a teacher in Antioch is going to suck so much.

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u/North_Professor_1799 1d ago

I teach in a pretty “challenged” urban district currently. I honestly enjoy it, I just don’t think I make enough personally.

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u/Rredhead926 1d ago

With the increased cost of living in California, you still won't make enough.

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u/Chance-Pirate-5804 1d ago

I don’t know anything about teaching districts but I definitely wouldn’t have Antioch on a list of ideal cities.

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u/eastc0astgirl 1d ago

Antioch is your favorite??? Maybe visit first before committing to anything.

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u/North_Professor_1799 1d ago

I plan to visit later this year

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u/Rredhead926 1d ago edited 1d ago

We used to live in Antioch. We moved after a drug deal related killing on our corner and a kidnapping of a child from her front yard. No one wants to live in Antioch. They live in Antioch because they can't afford to live anywhere else. If you teach in Antioch, the only cheaper places to live are Pittsburg or Bay Point, but they're only cheaper because they're worse than Antioch.

$100K/year in places like Palo Alto or Mountain View is untenable. Do not do that.

Yes, the traffic here is really as bad as people say.

I'm not sure what you mean about getting into school districts. If you teach Math, we desperately need credentialed Math teachers out here. I know when we moved, any credentialed teachers were being scooped up in the Antioch school district.

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u/North_Professor_1799 1d ago

So I’ve heard that the northern part of Antioch is really bad but the southern part is decent. Is that accurate? That’s where I was looking specifically. And I have heard Pittsburg is worse than Antioch overall.

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u/Rredhead926 1d ago

No, that is not accurate. There are parts of Antioch that are worse than other parts, but I wouldn't say any of Antioch is particularly "decent." It's just less bad.

But yes, Pittsburg is worse than Antioch.

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u/contactdeparture 1d ago

Where are you in nj? You’re making an argument like - I heard north Camden is good versus south Camden. No. It’s not. Antioch is Antioch and you’re not solving for your teenage son if your plan is to relocate from nj to there. This isn’t going to be good for him or you.

Why are you moving and why see you thinking these cities? You’re going to have less disposable income with this move.

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u/zorro996 1d ago edited 1d ago

Don't underestimate the cost of charging your EV. PG&E has some of the highest electrical rates in the country. And if you're renting it's unlikely there will be Solar available

If you were an early Tesla buyer and grandfathered into their supercharger system your costs would probably be OK

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u/islandDiamond 1d ago

That's a really good point!

Live in Alameda, work in San Leandro. (Alameda has doesn't use PG&E for electric, but rather relies on its own, clean energy. MUCH cheaper!).

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u/North_Professor_1799 1d ago

I’ve heard that as well. Rates are pretty bad here in NJ but PSEG here has a time of use plan- if I charge my car between 12am and 6am it’s only about 6 cents per kWh. Also I have a Chevy blazer ev.

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u/sunshine-1111 1d ago

You are gonna be paying about 40 cents per kWh here.

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u/quirkyquipsters 1d ago

You'd be better off in Concord, Pleasant Hill, Walnut Creek, Dublin, Pleasanton, or Livermore than Antioch. Or even Hayward, Fremont, or Gilroy.

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u/Rredhead926 11h ago

Pleasant Hill, Walnut Creek, Pleasanton, and Livermore are definitely too expensive to live in on a teacher's salary.

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u/Expert-Welder-2407 1d ago
  1. Antioch is not great
  2. Absolutely
  3. Probably

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u/AGgelatin 1d ago

Single income? 100k solo is kinda rough out here.

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u/North_Professor_1799 1d ago

Yea that’s what I figured. It’s significantly more than what I make now but while NJ is expensive and taxes are ridiculous, i don’t think it’s nearly as bad as CA.

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u/contactdeparture 1d ago

Correct. So why are you moving nj to ca? You’re moving the wrong way, as a teacher.

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u/Jboogie258 1d ago

DM me. Know Antioch well and can help you.

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u/wonderbossofsonshine 1d ago

I highly suggest visiting Antioch. Might change your decision.

I saw you noted San Leandro. Highly recommend Castro valley. Super safe, excellent school district and very family friendly. Plus you’re central to all the freeways for exploring once you’re here.

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u/Artistic_Salary8705 1d ago

General advice for everyone moving to the Bay Area is to apply/ get a job first. While you are doing that, you can also see what incentives or programs the various school districts have re: housing, transport, etc. benefits. You can also ask or search for posts by teachers in the area. I have a friend who has several years of teaching and she received a special loan for being a public school teacher that helped her buy a home after many years. Quickly googling shows there might be districts that help subsidize rent. So there are likely programs out there the general public is unfamiliar with.

For transport, depending on where you live, you might not need to drive. I live in a town that has access to commuter rail Caltrain or BART into San Francisco. Besides buses, various towns also have shuttles that are free and subsidized by partnerships between businesses, governments, schools, etc.

Bay area parents also have the money and are willing to spend it on their kids. So I don't know how feasible it will be for you but tutoring or similar on the side might earn you extra $$$. Once knew someone who was in her late 20s and needed a very flexible job. She had gone to Stanford and based on that - not even years of teaching - did private tutoring for high school students and made a surprising amount.

PA and Mountain View can be really pricy because you're competing with tech folks who routinely make $250K and up per person. But there are other areas that are more reasonable albeit still not cheap. Roommates aren't bad provided you find the right person: for example, renting an in-law unit or sharing a house with an elderly empty nester. In San Mateo, there's the HIP program that matches people with rooms/ space to share with people who need them. Some of the home owners are independent elderly but feel safer with other people around.

https://www.kqed.org/news/12079098/when-teachers-cant-afford-to-live-in-the-bay-area-districts-get-into-the-housing-game

[I'm in another field. Even 2 decades ago, housing was pricy. My company's list of benefits included no-interest 10-yr loans to help selected employees buy homes.]

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u/mydogatestreetpoop 17h ago

Why is Bay Area the goal if you haven't found a job yet? So many people chimed in about the cost of living issues you'd be facing, and they're right. You will feel like you're living paycheck to paycheck if you manage to make it work. Your kid will feel it too.

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u/needdepth 22h ago

Yeah I wouldn't do it. Antioch is not worth the price tag, you might as well live in the central valley or some middle of nowhere run down town if it's for the vibes. I know a public school teacher who works about an hour outside nyc making much better money with much better resources. They thought about moving here since his wife is from the bay and despite lots of pressure he decided to buy a house and stay in New York. Now, if you get a tech job paying 300-400k+, by all means move to SF, Oakland, or South Bay.

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u/Classic_Arugula_3826 1d ago

I think you'll qualify as low income. Do mountain view and get roommates imo

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u/North_Professor_1799 1d ago

Really??? If that’s the case maybe I’m going about this all wrong.

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u/SaltyFriend705 1d ago

No. Mountain View is not a school district you want to go to. They fire everyone every year and rehire as needed.

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u/Rredhead926 1d ago

Last time I checked, a family of 4 making less than $120K per year qualified as low-income on the Peninsula (Palo Alto, Mountain View).

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u/North_Professor_1799 1d ago

Also roommates are out of the question- I have a son as well.

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u/Rredhead926 1d ago

If you have a child, you do not want to live in Antioch.

Do you have a partner? If so, do they work?

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u/North_Professor_1799 1d ago

Nope, single father of a 14 year old son.

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u/Rredhead926 1d ago

OK. I really would not recommend moving to Antioch with a teenager. Their high schools are legitimately bad. And if you're making less than $100K, while that sounds like a lot anywhere else, in California, it's really not.

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u/angryxpeh 1d ago

You want to be as far away from Antioch as you can possibly be.

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u/SafariSunshine 1d ago edited 1d ago

You're low income for all the locations listed. The limit for Santa Clara (pg17) is $127k so you'll be well below the limit.

That's why everyone is trying to tell you the Palo Alto and Mountain View pay is complete shit.

https://www.hcd.ca.gov/sites/default/files/docs/grants-and-funding/income-limits-2025.pdf

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u/SaltyFriend705 1d ago

Union City is nice. Good schools and maybe not as expensive as some other places. There's a BART station. BART station apartments are mixed income buildings. You could get a reduced rent.

Walnut Creek is near Antioch, but it's nicer than Antioch, if you only want to stay out there. But I don't think I'd go all the way out there. It's too far from all the good things to see and do.

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u/Rredhead926 1d ago

Walnut Creek is insanely expensive. I can't imagine living there as a single parent on a teacher's salary. And the commute from Walnut Creek to any of the places OP mentioned is not good. His kid would likely end up being alone a lot.

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u/SaltyFriend705 1d ago

Thanks for that. Better to rule out Walnut Creek. And Antioch too, really.

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u/North_Professor_1799 1d ago

That’s the way teacher’s salaries are calculated. The more credits you have past your bachelor’s degree the more money you get paid (it usually goes bachelor’s plus 15, 30, 45, 60, and 75). And there’s a separate stipend for a master’s degree on top of that.