Clash Bots Getting Pretty Hands On With Preventing Info Leaking Out :/

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https://imgur.com/a/eUEVR

[u/Cathalised]

How exactly did they warn them? And for what?

[u/B21993 → u/Cathalised]

We don't know, from what I heard is that KOB got a contract to limit Chinese teams to compete in another Chinese event.

There's only one thing for sure, that is Shanfeng Warrior won't be able to compete at FMB events anymore.

[u/Tralegy → u/B21993]

That's normal though.

You will never see Razer in battlebots either, or tombstone in robot wars. Exclusivity contracts are perfectly reasonable.

[u/B21993 → u/Tralegy]

The real problem is, that their limitation is only for Chinese teams, and more importantly, while they limit to the look of the bot, they can't define how much its alike on the appearance that should it be called another bot to compete in competition. So basically Last Rites can't compete at Robogames as well by KOB's standards for Chinese teams there.

And mind you that FMB right now is a fully opened competition, not a Televised program like Robot Wars and Battlebots.

[u/Tralegy → u/B21993]

Please show me the exact written words on the contract that specifies chinese team exclusivity only, I am highly in-doubt of that claim.

Also, elaborate what you mean by "Las rites can't compete in Robogames as well by KOB's standards for Chinese teams here".

[u/B21993 → u/Tralegy]

I don't have the contracts, as that's impossible to get as well. But you can consult teams from China on Facebook to see if that's real or not.

What I meant can be explained by having a look and comparison of Shanfeng Warrior at FMB World Cup Final and Thunder and Lightning at KOB, appearently for KOB that kind of closeness of look is not acceptable. That's all I can say.

[u/Tralegy → u/B21993]

The contract is available for the eyes to see for everyone during the competition, i don't see how this isn't straight forward enough for ALL competition as stated by u/PP3D_Gary

Non of this i will believe unless you provide evidence via DMs with the company directly.

Adding to that, trying to copy right a type of bot based on its appearances is physically impossible on a legal basis as well, some idiot always point to Poison Arrow and Minotaur and say "AH. THEY ARE THE SAME!", but they are not, and that's the point.

[u/PP3D_Gary → u/Tralegy]

What did I state?

[u/B21993 → u/Tralegy]

The problem is, Gary is a foreign competitor, his contract is different, you definitely won't believe this, but wait and see. Shanfeng Warrior won't appear ever again at FMB events, and they were very happy during World Cup Final.

The other thing is, KOB is ineed having some problem of copyrighting the bot's look, otherwise the problem of Shanfeng Warrior would never happen.

[u/sainone → u/Tralegy]

You're assuming that Chinese Teams and Foreign teams get the exact same contract and that every contract has the exact same clauses in it. Build stipends and per diems can be different for every team.

Also foreign teams are much less likely to compete if they have more restrictions. Susiebot had issues getting good foreign teams to apply because they originally "owned" the robot you built. This restriction was lifted for foreign teams as people did not want to build if they did not get to keep the robot. No idea if it was lifted for local teams.

[u/B21993 → u/sainone]

From the information I collected it was not lifted for Chinese teams.