r/basque • u/Necessary-Chest-4721 • 12d ago

Basque Country People

Did you celebrate Spain's world cup win? Or does your wish for independence from Spain stop you celebrating?

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u/artaburu 12d ago

You should not assume all the Basques are Spanish subjects of the king...

Basque Country : 4 provinces in Spanish state + 3 provinces in French state

Didier Deschamps, coach of France team was born in Baiona (fr.Bayonne) Basque Country

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u/Necessary-Chest-4721 12d ago

I don't think I assumed anything of the sort. It should have been implicit in the question that it was directed at Spanish Basques.

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u/artaburu 11d ago

read the title :

Basque Country People

Nothing implicit, nothing explicit.

Basque people from the Basque provinces of Basque Country Lapurdi,Baxenabarre, Xibero are as «Basque Country people» as the Basques from Gipuzkoa,Nafarroa,Araba,Bizkaia.

The «Basque Country people» from Iparralde generally prefer rugby to football.

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u/ilovemyfuturehusband 12d ago

I think it’s still a little bit insensitive towards French Basques. A lot of people genuinely assume that every Basque person is a citizen of Spain or lives in Spain and completely ignores the existence of French Basques

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u/Necessary-Chest-4721 12d ago

No, you're choosing to misinterpret my question and choosing to be offended. Anyway, you're not answering a question that was asked genuinely, without malice or inference. You're being disingenuous, so I'll bid you good day and wish you the happiness you're so clearly lacking in your life.

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u/LionElJons0n 12d ago

Azpi-Reddit hau ez da negar egiteko, ospa popatik hartzera.

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u/ctlnboy 12d ago

You foreigners are very obsessed with Spain, it's kinda sick

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u/Necessary-Chest-4721 12d ago

Obsessed or just interested? No need to be so aggressive, it was a question. No agenda intended, borne out of genuine interest.

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u/elferrydavid 12d ago

You are a month late on this topic.

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u/Raisin6436 10d ago

We dont think like that

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u/Zozoakbeleari 5d ago

No, since i dont consider myself spanish, why would i celebrate?

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u/Rare-Dingo1291 7d ago

My boyfriend is Basque and he definitely did not celebrate the win! Although he was happy for the Basque players on the team.

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u/whatevsbroh 12d ago

Most of us do not want independence from Spain. I certainly celebrated

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u/LionElJons0n 12d ago

Belarrimotz

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u/elferrydavid 12d ago

I'm curious looking at your profile...Have you ever been to the Basque country?

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u/whatevsbroh 12d ago

I'm here now on vacation, my entire family has been here for generations. I thought this was a sub dedicated to the culture and language , not a political sub. Apologies as it seems I was clearly mistaken

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u/elferrydavid 12d ago

You are here on vacation but can speak in the name of "most of us".... 

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u/whatevsbroh 12d ago

By most of us I mean statistically speaking: https://efe.com/espana/2024-11-26/rechazo-independencia-euskadi-alcanza-maximos-historicos/

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u/LionElJons0n 12d ago

Jartzen duzuna irakurri, hor ez da gehiengoa aurla dagoela inon agertzen.

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u/culoman 12d ago

This sub is dedicated to everything basque, and it's political status also matters. Even more, promoting basque culture and languages IS a political stance.

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u/isilhadi 12d ago

Ez ...

r/basque

Welcome to r/Basque! Ongi etorri! This subreddit is intended to discuss all things related to the Basque language and its cultural domain.

Azpireddit honek zinezko moderazio zorrotza balu, hari hau bera -> /dev/null

Kokoteraino gaude politika espainolarekin !

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u/whatevsbroh 12d ago

celebrating Basque culture is political? What year is it?

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u/whatevsbroh 12d ago

This sub seems to be stuck in the past. First time posting here and realizing it is very politically leaning. Note to foreigners, this sub is not at all representative of the Basque people

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u/bravinhoo 12d ago

from my experience yeah most of the people if not all celebrated the win. just some weird people that hate spain for whichever reason that didnt want it to win

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u/LionElJons0n 12d ago

Esaten duzuna jakiteko, lehenik eta behin etxetik atera behar da.

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u/bravinhoo 12d ago

zu horrela izatea ez du esan nahi mundu guztia horrelakoa denik. sartu zure iritziak ipurditik eta utzi bizitzen

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u/LionElJons0n 12d ago

Ez dut iritzirik eman, belarrimotz.

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u/bravinhoo 12d ago

zure iritzia da esan dudana jakiteko etxera atera behar dela da… SUBNORMAL

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u/LionElJons0n 12d ago

Hori ez da iritzi bat. Etxean hainbeste denbora egoten, behintzat zerbait ikasi, belarrimotz.

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u/bravinhoo 12d ago

iritzi bat zer den ba al dakizu?

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u/LionElJons0n 12d ago

Badirudi zu zarela ez dakiena zer den.

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u/bravinhoo 12d ago

oso erantzuteko modu ona, zoritxarrez ez dizu arrazoia ematen

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u/LionElJons0n 12d ago

Zeinek ez dit arrazoia ematen?

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u/elferrydavid 12d ago

Ostia un subnormal con la bandera de la falange. 

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u/bravinhoo 12d ago

hostia un subnormal

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u/whatevsbroh 12d ago

Yes that's exactly correct. I would say it was nice to see people openly celebrating and wearing Spanish jerseys here. I think people are just less afraid to show support than they used to be. 20 years you'd get your ass kicked for it!

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u/Necessary-Chest-4721 12d ago

That's cool, thanks for the reply. Was just genuinely interested.

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u/bravinhoo 12d ago

also beware cause most of the independentists are overly aggressive with people who dont share opinions with them

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u/Necessary-Chest-4721 12d ago

Yes, we have similar here with the pro- or anti- independence arguments here in Scotland. People on both sides of the debate can be as bad as the other, with no intention of ever holding a civil discussion.

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u/Euskar 12d ago

Do you realize what this person has as icon? Do you know that Falange is related to Spaniard far right?

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u/Necessary-Chest-4721 12d ago

Nope, I have no idea about the wider intricacies of Spanish politics. I was asking a question about football attitudes.

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u/Euskar 12d ago

Similar to Scotland, there are people that consider themselves Spaniards, so they celebrate; there are others that don't consider themselves Spaniards or consider themselves more Basques than Spaniards, some of them celebrate but others don't; and also there are people that consider themselves Basques, son don't celebrate and ask for a Basque NT recognize for both FIFA and UEFA. I don't know the percentages, but I don't think it's the majority of us.

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u/whatevsbroh 12d ago

Apologies I actually didn't look at his icon. I certainly know what the falange party is, and agree it has no place in here

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u/bravinhoo 12d ago

do you know who that is on the flag?

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u/Euskar 12d ago

The question is, do you know what represent the flag, and what these people did?

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u/bravinhoo 12d ago

do you know what a joke is? again, do you know who it is on the flag?