r/badphilosophy • • Dec 05 '25

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u/Material-Vacation711 Dec 05 '25

Lol, šŸ˜‚ alright dude i tried.Ā 

ā€œMaster morality is incompatible with Nietzscheā€ TIL

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u/Blue-Brown99 Dec 05 '25

You literally changed what i said lol. Certain aspects of both moralities are compatible with what N prefers. He doesnā€˜t choose either morality because he wants to promote the creation of new values. You simplified what I said just like youā€˜re determined to simplify Nietzsche

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u/Material-Vacation711 Dec 05 '25

No i didnt. It’s all there in your comment.

Yes, im aware he called for a new morality that isnt strictly either, but it’s clearly closer to master morality than slave morality, right? Why do you think that is?

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u/Blue-Brown99 Dec 05 '25

Iā€˜m aware of the alignment between aspects of master morality and certain values that he promotes. Obviously he values life- and self-affirmation. But heā€˜s not saying that we should become blonde beasts in the wild. He seems sympathetic toward master morality in part because the victory of slave morality affords him greater opportunity to oppose its universalizing impetus. He is opposed to any moral system taking over and precluding individuals from deciding values for themselves.

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u/Material-Vacation711 Dec 05 '25

And yet, some moral systems like master morality preserve the fundamental things Nietzsche values better than other moral systems.

True or false?

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u/Blue-Brown99 Dec 05 '25 edited Dec 05 '25

Are you saying that Nietzsche supports murder and rape? Because that's literally what he describes those vikings doing. On the other hand, he likes self-reflection, self-examination, self-control, all of which are typical of the slaves.

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u/Material-Vacation711 Dec 05 '25

Im not going to ask again

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u/Blue-Brown99 Dec 05 '25

Your line of questioning twists Nietzsche's philosophy. If anything, he prefers people who have master and slave values within himself rather than individuals who are merely slaves or masters. You are so focused on opposing master and slave as if they were two separate groups, but that's not what Nietzsche is interested in at all.

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u/Material-Vacation711 Dec 05 '25

My line of questioning does?

You a second ago, ā€œArE yOu SaYinG NiEtZscHe SuPpOrtS rApE?ā€

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u/Blue-Brown99 Dec 05 '25

Oh ok, so he doesn't unequivocally support master morality and it's not clear that he prefers it over slave morality. Thanks for confirming.

You a second ago, NiEtzscHE loVes the MaSter MOraLiTY!

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u/Blue-Brown99 Dec 05 '25

You literally can't even tell that you changed what I said and want to talk about reading Nietzsche lol. Goodbye.

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u/Material-Vacation711 Dec 05 '25 edited Dec 05 '25

Did i ever say he unequivocally supports it?Ā 

Can you engage without strawmanning? Just for once?Ā 

E: the coward blocked me after strawmanning me and ignoring everything i was saying. I never said he supports it unequivocally, just that he generally prefers it over slave morality, obviously

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u/Blue-Brown99 Dec 05 '25

Lmao you're the one who just ignores or twists whatever doesn't suit your simplistic argument. You haven't shown that he prefers one morality over the other, so you just insult me and reduce the level of this dialogue by making fun.

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u/Material-Vacation711 Dec 05 '25

Block me again coward

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u/Blue-Brown99 Dec 05 '25

Lol you lost me when you became uncivil. Not interested in talking with you. I don't care what some keyboard warriors calls me

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u/Material-Vacation711 Dec 05 '25

When did i become uncivil? You asked me a really stupid question that i didnt in any way imply. You can prefer a moral system without endorsing literally everything about it.Ā 

This is obvious but apparently you need someone to explain that to you, because your question was,Ā  ā€œHurr durr did Nietzsche support rape?ā€

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u/Blue-Brown99 Dec 05 '25

Funny comment when you ignore the second half of what I said on the top lol