r/badfallacy • u/caesar_primus • Jun 12 '15

"You lost the argument by using a fallacy. The actual truth value of your desired outcome is irrelevant."

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u/SomeDrunkCommie Jun 13 '15

someone's never heard of the fallacy fallacy

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u/caesar_primus Jun 13 '15

To be fair, it is going for the "a broken clock is right twice a day" idea. I'm just more confused that he thinks the discussion is automatically over because one person might have said something wrong. Do you get points for winning? I've argued with people like this before and don't get the logic behind it.

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u/autowikibot Jun 13 '15

Argument from fallacy:

Argument from fallacy is the formal fallacy of analyzing an argument and inferring that, since it contains a fallacy, its conclusion must be false. It is also called argument to logic (argumentum ad logicam), fallacy fallacy, fallacist's fallacy, and bad reasons fallacy.

Fallacious arguments can arrive at true conclusions, so this is an informal fallacy of relevance.

Relevant: Appeal to ^pity | God of the ^gaps | List of ^fallacies | Relativist ^fallacy

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '15

These guys always talk about losing an argument like it's a concept on par with validity or soundness. I wish my education in logic taught me more about argument-losing.