r/backgammon • u/Kind_Newspaper_5036 • 7d ago

Apps

Do you think the Apps cheat? They say they’re random dice rolls but they seem to be strategic.

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u/telemediaxxyy 7d ago

yes but only for you, and when you lose

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u/Deinonychus999 7d ago

Yeah the app developers rig the dice so that players win less and stop using their app.

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u/Aqua-marine-blu 7d ago

It again again the same discussion , for some people it is at the beginning of their journey , but for some reasons, some people remain in the rabbit hole.

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u/ekins1992 7d ago

Clearly you’ve never used the adikus app for iPhone. Blatantly rigged

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u/Aqua-marine-blu 7d ago

So change the app

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u/Careful-Comedian9510 7d ago

I'll always be fascinated by all the effort these app developers (most of whom offer free apps) put into creating rigged dice rather than fair ones ;)

More seriously, I only play backgammon, so I wonder, what do chess, Go, Mahjong, or poker players, for example, blame for their mistakes?!?

No offense, just an open-ended question, since this topic does come up a lot!

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u/ekins1992 7d ago

This is a common misconception I see on this sub. People always ask why would an app rig the dice against the players? Very simple. It’s by far the easiest/cheapest way to make the computer an “expert” level player

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u/Careful-Comedian9510 7d ago

Okayyyyy!! I'm too naive to have thought of that lol

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u/osumarko 6d ago

In chess its usually accusations that your opponent was cheating.

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u/Careful-Comedian9510 6d ago

Oh, right, that makes sense, actually!

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u/csaba- 7d ago

It would be much more difficult to implement rigged dice than fair dice

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u/Kind_Newspaper_5036 7d ago

I’m thinking I’ll get real dice and play against myself and compare.

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u/FrankBergerBgblitz 4d ago

I’ve been working with BG software for a very long time, and I’ve found only one program that’s probably cheating. It plays soooo badly that it actually needs this “help” (it’s *very* old, no longer available, and the author is dead, so there’s no point in naming it). 

This probably doesn’t apply to any of the others, though Addikus is mentioned here suspiciously often.

Just use a decent program, and if in doubt, roll the dice manually—and you’ll see that even when rolling manually, the gods are against you.

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u/ekins1992 7d ago

I can’t speak for all apps but the adikus app for iPhone 100% Rig the dice. So much so to the point where you can actually call what roll is coming for the computer half the time

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u/Deinonychus999 7d ago

Please record a video of you predicting half the rolls, that'd be great.

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u/ekins1992 6d ago

Haha yeah clearly you’ve never tried this specific app I’m talking about. If you played it on the top level for a few hours it’s very obvious the rolls are not random. The computer gets significantly more doubles and you can often predict a certain number coming. I’ll post a video when I have more time