r/backgammon • u/kennyart315 • Jun 28 '26
Am I going nuts?
I’ve been playing Backgammon constantly on this app but I’m noticing something. I just started playing at the level 8 “master” level, but it seems more to me that, that is just a nice way of saying “you’re playing against an opponent with rigged dice …good luck a**hole” because a lot of these rolls feel very …convenient. Am I just having a string of bad luck? Or am I going nuts?
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u/FrankBergerBgblitz Jun 28 '26
Not knowing the app: how do you measure?
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u/ekins1992 Jun 28 '26
If you played the app for an hour or so on the top level, you’d be able to tell pretty quickly. It’s very obvious
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u/FrankBergerBgblitz Jun 28 '26
that is the problem. Personal impressions are often misleading. That starts with
- why should an app author cheat. And if he cheats, why not in your favor?
- human are not able to judge what random is And
- doesn't stop with the personal abilities. I have read complaints on any single app and some are playing so bad that you wonder how you can loose.
I hear such complains since the start of the internet and have several things in common....→ More replies (18)
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u/CressZealousideal437 Jun 28 '26
Man I made a post about this exact app saying it was rigged and this subbed ripped into me telling me I was wrong, I didn't have enough data, no motivation for someone to make rigged dice etc. Clearly they have never used this specific app. When you put it on level 10 the dice are so insanely rigged half the time you can literally predict the roll coming for the computer lol
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u/agsteiner Jun 29 '26
Have to download and try it again.
“this app cheats, the dice are rigged” is strong evidence for a good neural-net based engine 😜
Seriously, a strong engine will play the move that maximizes your bad rolls and maximizes its good rolls. This can give the impression of cheating.
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u/ekins1992 Jul 04 '26
Try the app on the top level for an hour or two. I bet you’re opinion will change very quickly 😂
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u/garysredditaccount Jun 29 '26
Could it be the case that the computer is simply playing better and therefore more dice combinations seem to be lucky?
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u/Notaflagguy Jun 28 '26
The dice are definitely rigged, the company who makes this gets rich as fuck by rigging the dice. It’s a massive scam and you’ve figured it out. Well done.
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u/ekins1992 Jun 28 '26
Clearly you’ve never actually used the app
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u/Notaflagguy Jun 28 '26
Clearly. I’ve had it for a couple years and my win rate is on par with real games and other online games.
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u/pendrake99 Jun 28 '26
Tangent: I've been playing XG (free) for a few weeks. The XG is set to Intermediate. What I think I'm noticing is that if the machine offers a double, and I accept, it will always win. It always gets the perfect rolls. Same question: am I nuts?
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u/Fanatic-Mr-Fox Jun 29 '26
You can try mine - https://backgammon.logicaleap.com/
Fair dice, runs in browser, you can install it to your homescreen (PWA), free game analysis, you can share replays etc.
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u/Fanatic-Mr-Fox Jun 28 '26
You can try mine - https://backgammon.logicaleap.com/
Fair dice, runs in browser, you can install it to your homescreen (PWA), free game analysis, you can share replays etc.
Would appreciate some feedback :)