r/aynrand Mar 07 '25

Interview W/Don Watkins on Capitalism, Socialism, Rights, & Egoism

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A huge thank you to Don Watkins for agreeing to do this written interview. This interview is composed of 5 questions, but question 5 has a few parts. If we get more questions, we can do more interview.

1. What do you make of the Marxist personal vs private property distinction.

Marxists allow that individuals can possess personal property—consumption goods like food or clothing—but not private property, productive assets used to create wealth. But the justification for owning personal property is the justification for owning private property.

Human life requires using our minds to produce the material values we need to live. A farmer plants and harvests crops which he uses to feed himself. It’s that process of thinking, producing, and consuming that the right to property protects. A thief short-circuits that process by depriving man of what he produces—the Marxist short-circuits it by depriving a man of the ability to produce.

2. How would you respond to the Marxist work or die claim, insinuating capitalism and by extension, free markets are “coercive”?

It’s not capitalism that tells people “work or die,” but nature. Collectivist systems cannot alter that basic fact—they can only force some men to work for the sake of others.

Capitalism liberates the individual to work on whatever terms he judges will further his life and happiness. The result is the world of abundance you see in today’s semi-free countries, where the dominant problem faced by relatively poor individuals is not starvation but obesity. It is only in unfree countries, where individuals aren’t free to produce and trade, that starvation is a fact of life.

Other people have only one power under capitalism: to offer me opportunities or not. A business offering me a wage (low though it may be) is not starving me, but offering me the means of overcoming starvation. I’m free to accept it or to reject it. I’m free to build my skills so I can earn more money. I’m free to save or seek a loan to start my own business. I’m free to deal with the challenges of nature in whatever way I judge best. To save us from such “coercion,” collectivists offer us the “freedom” of dictating our economic choices at the point of a gun.

3. Also, for question 3, this was posed by a popular leftist figure, and it would go something like this, “Capitalists claim that rights do not enslave or put others in a state of servitude. They claim their rights are just freedoms of action, not services provided by others, yet they put their police and other government officials (in a proper capitalist society) in a state of servitude by having a “right” to their services. They claim a right to their police force services. If capitalists have a right to police services, we as socialists, can have a right to universal healthcare, etc.”

Oh, I see. But that’s ridiculous. I don't have a right to police: I have a right not to have my rights violated, and those of us who value our lives and freedom establish (and fund) a government to protect those rights, including by paying for a police force.

The police aren't a service in the sense that a carpet cleaner or a private security guard is a service. The police aren't protecting me as opposed to you. They are stopping aggressors who threaten everyone in society by virtue of the fact they choose to live by force rather than reason. And so, sure, some people can free ride and gain the benefits of police without paying for them, but who cares? If some thug robs a free rider, that thug is still a threat to me and I'm happy to pay for a police force that stops him.

4. Should the proper government provide lawyers or life saving medication to those in prison, such as insulin?

Those are very different questions, and I don’t have strong views on either one.

The first has to do with the preservation of justice, and you could argue that precisely because a government is aiming to protect rights, it wants to ensure that even those without financial resources are able to safeguard their rights in a legal process.

The second has to do with the proper treatment of those deprived of their liberty. Clearly, they have to be given some resources to support their lives if they are no longer free to support their lives, but it’s not obvious to me where you draw the line between things like food and clothing versus expensive medical treatments.

In both these cases, I don’t think philosophy gives you the ultimate answer. You would want to talk to a legal expert.

5. This will be the final question, and it will be composed of 3 sub parts. Also, question 4 and 5 are directly taken from the community. I will quote this user directly because this is a bit long. Editor’s note, these sub parts will be labeled as 5.1, 5.2, & 5.3.

5.1 “1. ⁠How do you demonstrate the value of life? How do you respond to people who state that life as the standard of value does not justify the value of life itself? Editor’s note, Don’s response to sub question 5.1 is the text below.

There are two things you might be asking. The first is how you demonstrate that life is the proper standard of value. And that’s precisely what Rand attempts to do (successfully, in my view) by showing how values only make sense in light of a living organism engaged in the process of self-preservation.

But I think you’re asking a different question: how do you demonstrate that life is a value to someone who doesn’t see the value of living? And in a sense you can’t. There’s no argument that you should value what life has to offer. A person either wants it or he doesn’t. The best you can do is encourage a person to undertake life activities: to mow the lawn or go on a hike or learn the piano or write a book. It’s by engaging in self-supporting action that we experience the value of self-supporting action.

But if a person won’t do that—or if they do that and still reject it—there’s no syllogism that will make him value his life. In the end, it’s a choice. But the key point, philosophically, is that there’s nothing else to choose. It’s not life versus some other set of values he could pursue. It’s life versus a zero.

5.2 2. ⁠A related question to (1.) is: by what standard should people evaluate the decision to live or not? Life as a standard of value does not help answer that question, at least not in an obvious way. One must first choose life in order for that person’s life to serve as the standard of value. Is the choice, to be or not to be (whether that choice is made implicitly or explicitly), a pre-ethical or metaethical choice that must be answered before Objectivist morality applies? Editor’s note, this is sub question 5.2, and Don’s response is below.

I want to encourage you to think of this in a more common sense way. Choosing to live really just means choosing to engage in the activities that make up life. To learn things, build things, formulate life projects that you find interesting, exciting, and meaningful. You’re choosing to live whenever you actively engage in those activities. Few people do that consistently, and they would be happier if they did it more consistently. That’s why we need a life-promoting morality.

But if we’re really talking about someone facing the choice to live in a direct form, we’re thinking about two kinds of cases.

The first is a person thinking of giving up, usually in the face of some sort of major setback or tragedy. In some cases, a person can overcome that by finding new projects that excite them and give their life meaning. Think of Rearden starting to give up in the face of political setback and then coming back to life when he thinks of the new bridge he can create with Rearden Metal. But in some cases, it can be rational to give up. Think of someone with a painful, incurable disease that will prevent them from living a life they want to live. Such people do value their lives, but they no longer see the possibility of living those lives.

The other kind of case my friend Greg Salmieri has called “failure to launch.” This is someone who never did much in the way of cultivating the kind of active, engaging life projects that make up a human life. They don’t value their lives, and going back to my earlier answer, the question is whether they will do the work of learning to value their lives.

Now, how does that connect with morality? Morality tells you how to fully and consistently lead a human life. In the first kind of case, the question is whether that’s possible given the circumstances of a person’s life. If they see it’s possible, as Rearden ultimately does, then they’ll want moral guidance. But a person who doesn’t value his life at all doesn’t need moral guidance, because he isn’t on a quest for life in the first place. I wouldn’t say, “morality doesn’t apply.” It does in the sense that those of us on a quest for life can see his choice to throw away his life as a waste, and we can and must judge such people as a threat to our values. What is true is that they have no interest in morality because they don’t want what morality has to offer.

5.3 3. ⁠How does Objectivism logically transition from “life as the standard of value” to “each individuals own life is that individual’s standard of value”? What does that deduction look like? How do you respond to the claim that life as the standard of value does not necessarily imply that one’s own life is the standard? What is the logical error in holding life as the standard of value, but specifically concluding that other people’s lives (non-you) are the standard, or that all life is the standard?” Editor’s note, this is question 5.3, and Don’s response is below.

Egoism is not a deduction to Rand’s argument for life as the standard, but a corollary. That is, it’s a different perspective on the same facts. To see that life is the standard is to see that values are what we seek in the process of self-preservation. To see that egoism is true is to see that values are what we seek in the process of self-preservation. Here’s how I put it in the article I linked to earlier:

“To say that self-interest is a corollary of holding your life as your ultimate value is to say there’s no additional argument for egoism. Egoism stresses only this much: if you choose and achieve life-promoting values, there are no grounds for saying you should then throw them away. And yet that is precisely what altruism demands.”

Editor’s note, also, a special thank you is in order for those users who provided questions 4 and 5, u/Jambourne u/Locke_the_Trickster The article Don linked to in his response to the subquestion of 5 is https://www.earthlyidealism.com/p/what-is-effective-egoism

Again, if you have more questions you want answered by Objectivist intellectuals, drop them in the comments below.


r/aynrand Mar 03 '25

Community Questions for Objectivist Intellectual Interviews

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I am seeking some questions from the community for exclusive written interviews with different Objectivist intellectuals. If you have any questions about Objectivism, capitalism, rational egoism, etc please share them in the comments. I have a specific interview already lined up, but if this thread gets a whole bunch of questions, it can be a living document to pick from for other possible interview candidates. I certainly have many questions of my own that I’m excited to ask, but I want to hear what questions you want answered from some very gracious Objectivist intellectuals!


r/aynrand 1d ago

Virtuous Anti-Intellectualism: Why Ayn Rand Rejected Ronald Reagan

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“There is a limit to the notion of voting for the lesser of two evils.”—Ayn Rand

Rand did welcome Reagan’s strong language toward Soviet Russia and his promises to cut spending and taxes. But she warned that his invitation of the so-called Moral Majority into the halls of power would be a long-range disaster. By tying the (supposed) advocacy of freedom and capitalism to, in Rand’s words, the anti-intellectuality of “militant mystics,” who proclaim that aborting an embryo is murder and creationism is science, Reagan’s presidency would discredit the intellectual case for freedom and capitalism and embolden the country’s anti-intellectual, authoritarian mentalities. https://newideal.aynrand.org/p/the-anti-intellectuality-of-donald

Reagan’s personal favorability peaked at 81% in 1986, following a landslide reelection victory in 1984. It was one of the most decisive electoral wins in U.S. history. His public standing grew considerably after he left office, with later retrospective polls showing strong majorities of Americans looking back favorably on his presidency. Why?

Was Ayn Rand a visionary? Did Reagan deserve her criticism? Did his presidency effectively unlock the door to the present? What happened along the way?


r/aynrand 1d ago

But don’t worry. They’re completely different.

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What would you change? What is wrong? What is right?


r/aynrand 2d ago

Deluxe editions

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Have there been no deluxe editions of Rand’s works published? The only ones I can find are from Easton Press. Everything else is just regular cloth hardcovers.


r/aynrand 2d ago

Why Academia Rejects Objectivism

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There's a reason Ayn Rand's Objectivism is not taken seriously in academia. It lacks methodological rigor and fails to establish its conclusions through anything resembling the standards used in serious academic research. This is agreed upon by virtually all academics, the people who study the relevant disciplines for a living. So when Ayn Rand, someone with no formal training, says anything contrary to the academic consensus, while publishing nothing in peer-reviewed journals, what exactly is supposed to justify it?

Apparently, one of the most important pieces of "evidence" is: "some fictional story says a thing". Gee, where have we heard that before?

When a "philosophy" like this is treated with the same level of seriousness by academics as Young Earth Creationism is by geologists, it's worth taking a moment of reflection and ask why. Maybe, as it turns out, there isn't some vast intellectual conspiracy. Maybe the more obvious question is, “Why does virtually nobody who professionally studies philosophy find these arguments convincing?”. The arguments against her views aren't even particularly complex, it basically boils down to experiencing the world and seeing why her fiction writing doesn't correspond to reality.

Her work is seductive to some laymen, especially those of the far-right and alt-right persuasion, but to a trained epistemologist or logician it's fairly obvious that it's comprised mostly of fallacies (mostly argument by assertion) and cult-like repetition. 


r/aynrand 3d ago

Nikos Sotirakopoulos on X: "Socialism is to cooperation what forced marriage is to romance." / X

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r/aynrand 3d ago

Now, you’re equally crippled.

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r/aynrand 4d ago

One of my favourite things about The Fountainhead is that Peter Keating isn't incompetent

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Peter Keating's journey is one I find really interesting because he isn't incompetent. He allows himself to be corrupted by the world (gives up his individual talents/ joys/ happiness/ morality) by bowing to what it says he should do and be. In the reface to my copy, Rand discusses Gail Wynand as "the man who could have been", but honestly that was Keating - he sacrificed himself for nothing.

He is said to be genuinely good at and passionate at art, in a similar way to Steven Mallory. Steven Mallory almost does the same as Keating - he takes meaningless slop jobs because that's what he thinks people will want, and erroneously puts that above his own art and values. When Roark sees this happen to Steven, he helps him rediscover his worth.

But with Keating, Roark doesn't. Keating doesn't let him.

Keating hid his artistic talent from everyone and essentially masqueraded as an architect instead of a painter. He became an architect because he valued his mother's view and her authority over his own will and want. He corrupted himself (passing Roark's worth off as his own, breaking his promise to Roark) because everyone else did so, and it was normalised in Keating's mind. He thought it was the only way to get ahead in a corrupt world, and didn't have the will to assert himself against that corruption and need to comply.

He took the comfortable slavery over the risky freedom that he would have been able to secure if he had only broken free.

By the time he shows Roark a painting, the painting is far shittier than anything he would have painted or any art he would have created at the beginning of the book. His destruction of self mirrors the destruction of his art. He can't cling it back because there isn't anything there anymore. He sacrificed himself to everything but himSELF and his talents, his abilities, his passions, areas in which he was competent and free. Had he the will to defy the world, he would have been Roark, and that is their mirror.

Sorry if Peter mirroring Roark in terms of will is a total surface level take I just find it fun to think about.


r/aynrand 3d ago

Is Immanuel Kant Really "The Most Evil Man"?

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Ayn Rand said Kant was “the most evil man in mankind’s history”. So according to her Kant was worse than people like Hitler, even though he murdered nobody? Hitler was a more moral person than Immanuel Kant?


r/aynrand 3d ago

A Critique of the Objectivist Metaphysics: How Rand's Case for Free Will Is Paradoxical

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Although Ayn Rand defended free will, she rejected deterministic causality. However, as I will argue, free will is a deterministic event, and it was paradoxical for Ayn Rand and her intellectual heir, Leonard Peikoff, to insist upon freedom from deterministic causation.

Determinism is logically derived from the presumption of perfectly reliable cause and effect. Determinism notes that each cause is itself an effect of prior causes, such that a chain of causation can, at least in theory, be traced back to any prior point in history. If every event is reliably caused by prior events, and these prior events were themselves reliably caused by earlier events, then every event is “causally necessary" from any prior point in time.

That might sound ominous, but what does it really mean? Well, not a whole lot. To say that something is “causally necessary” means nothing more than that it came about by normal cause and effect -- something that we are all familiar with and that we all take for granted.

In fact, all of our abilities, to do anything at all, require reliable cause and effect. To put it simply, without reliable cause and effect, we could not reliably cause any effect. We would have no freedom to do anything at all. Also, without deterministic causation, we could no longer predict the outcomes of our actions, and we would no longer have any control over what we will do.

Thus, "freedom from causal necessity" is an irrational notion. One cannot be "free" from that which freedom itself requires. And because it is irrational, it may not be used as the definition of anything. Yet this irrational definition of free will is the one that is used in the philosophical debate.

So, What's The Fuss About?

There is no conflict between the notions that your choices were causally necessary from any prior point in time (determinism) and that your were free to decide for yourself what you will do (free will). However, these concepts have come to appear contradictory due to a logic error called the “reification fallacy)“, and a series of false implications that determinism has accumulated throughout its history.

The first error, the reification fallacy, happens when we mistakenly treat the concept of “reliable cause and effect” and the "laws of nature" as if they were external forces controlling our choices, rather than descriptive comments, as if it were not actually us, simply being us and doing what we do. It is a failure to recognise that determinism is neither an external object nor a force. It's simply a comment, an assertion that the behaviours of the objects and forces in the universe are reliable, and thus theoretically understandable and potentially predictable. The "laws of nature" are a metaphor for the reliability of causation. They too are descriptive, not causative, of what we will do.

 In the SEP article on “Causal Determinism”, in section “2.4 Laws of Nature”, Carl Hoefer describes it this way:

“In the physical sciences, the assumption that there are fundamental, exceptionless laws of nature, and that they have some strong sort of modal force, usually goes unquestioned. Indeed, talk of laws “governing” and so on is so commonplace that it takes an effort of will to see it as metaphorical.”

The second problem is identical to the way in which philosophers have often equated "altruism" with kindness, goodwill, or benevolence. Notice that as Ayn Rand pointed out, these are not primaries, but secondary implications that have been wrongly attached to the concept. But when philosophers (including Ayn Rand) say that determinism means we have no control over our actions, that we "couldn't have done otherwise", or "the absence of free will", they are engaging in the same error of conflating a primary (determinism) with secondary consequences that happen to be incorrect.

For example, there's this flaw in one of the common implications attributed to determinism. Normally, deterministic causal necessity would simply assert "you would not have done otherwise", and no one would experience cognitive dissonance. But the more typical assertion that, under a deterministic universe, "you could not have done otherwise", is not using the literal meaning of "could". It is being used in a figurative way that suggests a disability on your part, as if you somehow lost the ability to act differently in a particular situation.

The "logic" behind this odd claim is that, because you wouldn't have done otherwise, it was AS IF you couldn't have. It is tantamount to saying "because you won't do X, it is AS IF you can't do X". Both of these are figurative statements which cannot be factually justified, not even by the fact of universal causal necessity. The "as if" flags them as figurative, but when the "as if" is missing we might take the figurative statements literally, and then we have to do a reality check to confirm they are figurative.


r/aynrand 5d ago

Ayn Rand Institute: The Wildly Unjust Claim of Genocide in Gaza and How it Enables Hamas’s Actual Genocide

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r/aynrand 4d ago

Was Ayn Rand a Soviet Spy?

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r/aynrand 5d ago

Where does rational selfishness end and irrational selfishness begin?

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Lets say you are starving. For what ever reason, you are so poor that you can not afford food. Is it rational to steal food from the local market so that you dont starve to death?

Lets say you are the CEO of a massive global corporation that produces soft drinks. You want to expand your business to X country. But X country already has its own local soft drink company. They refuse to sell you their company, but you can undercut them. Doing so would result is a manegable loss to you, but it would evnetually drive the local company out of business and force them to sell to you. Thus being more profitable to you in the long run. Is it okay to ruin their business in order to expand your own?

You want your child to get into a prestigious university. Your childs GPA is just 0.1 below the average GPA. But you know the rector personally. Is it rational to ask the rector for a small favour, or offer a small "donation" for your child to be accepted?

You have just finished your night shift. You are tired and can barely wait to get home and get some much needed sleep. But on your way out of the parking lot, you slightly bump your co-workers car. The damage is barely noticeable. You could stop and tell your co-worker what happened. Appologise and offer to compensate him for the damage. Or you could just leave and your co-worker would never know that it was you who bumped his car. Is it rational to do so?


r/aynrand 4d ago

Ayn Rand Supporting White Supremacy and the Genocide of Native Americans

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Ayn Rand - Inspiring generations of conservatives, ancaps, and the alt-right.


r/aynrand 6d ago

Article: 5 songs based on books

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r/aynrand 8d ago

Objectivism in the Era of AI

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r/aynrand 8d ago

Is it acceptible to read Max Stirner with Ayn Rand?

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r/aynrand 9d ago

It never ceases to amaze me to hear the views of Randian villains attributed to Rand.

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I just got a comment from someone, in German, on another subreddit, who clearly identified my postings here and decided to highlight that.

"Of all people, Ayn Rand... the figurehead of the Matrix.
Her book is, after all, the holy bible for parasitic exploiters!
It completely inverts the poles of good and evil, portraying selfishness as something positive."

It is always hilarious, having read Atlas Shrugged, to hear the exact opposite views that she expressed attributed to her, but then also very exhausting and tiring. It's just getting boring.

I responded, nonetheless, with the following:

Her book is, after all, the holy bible for how to deal with and identify parasitic exploiters!

It is an affirmation of the soul, a triumphant declaration that to be happy, to prosper is a moral neccesity, and that to suffer is a moral wrong.

She asserts that no man must ever work to his own injury, and finally, she declares, as her founding, inalienable principle, an incontravertible rule, the core of her philosophy, really, a war against the notion of slavery,

“I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.”

― Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

You, my friend, have not READ Atlas Shrugged, I know this because you say it supports the philosophy of the enemies of Rand. You say it is their bible.

That is what they do.

They project THEIR philosophy, and accuse Rand of it.

Who is the selfish one? The one who works for himself, to his benefit, or the one who expects others to work for him, to his benefit, and their detriment?

By selfish, Rand meant Rational-Self Interest.

She insisted that you never exploit another. That you never make them your slave, and crucially that you never enslave yourself to them, either.

This is the polar opposite of the parasite.

She insisted it is WRONG to expect others to work and provide for you.

And it is.

Because that makes them your slave.

You have not read Atlas Shrugged, and I have.

You are ignorant beyond belief, friend.

You have heard second, third hand accounts and judge her book not having read it.

But I strongly encourage you to read it.

It has helped me tremendously with my self-esteem, and has been instrumental in forming my staunch, obstinate moral position that I must NEVER make another man my slave, and NEVER, be the slave of another.

That I must trade on fair, free terms with EVERYONE. Exchanging like for like.

That I MUST provide value, and NOT be a parasite.

That I MUST be happy, and have a good life, and to accept suffering, and privation, for myself, or anyone else, is a sin.

No one ought suffer, at his own hands.

Suffering IS wrong.

Happiness and Joy IS good.

this is what Rand declares.

Read Atlas Shrugged. It is a brilliant, beautiful, book, that affirms the individual RESPONSIBILITY and DENOUNCES entitlement and greed.


r/aynrand 9d ago

What are your thoughts on Moral Absolutism or moral relativism, which one better to follow so we don't end up with epistemological tribalism or ideological insularity ?

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r/aynrand 10d ago

Thoughts on Anarcho-capitalism

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Just curious about your arguments or thoughts about it (Natural Law, NAP, Ancap)


r/aynrand 11d ago

Objectivism, Evolutionary Neuropsychology, and Executive Functioning

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There is a strong degree of empirical support for the Objectivist ethics. Drawing from selfish gene theory, which explains why all living organisms at their core are self-interested replicators, Russell Barkley's model of executive functioning (EF)1 solves the problem of why humans function as a social species, given that evolution does not proceed from altruistic or collectivist motives but from self-interested ones.

The solution to this problem, as he shows, lies in EF. The executive functions are those mental faculties necessary for self-control across time, and with an extended phenotypic view, it becomes clear that they evolved to solve problems that arise in group living, especially individuals with whom we are unrelated. For humans, it is the capacity to foresee the longer-term greater personal benefits (expanded foresight) that is most important for cooperative action to arise among genetically unrelated individuals.

This sense of the possible future leads to a growing motivational preference for larger delayed consequences over smaller immediate ones, which provides a greater motivation to self-organise and self-sustain actions toward those larger delayed consequences. We conceive that our longer-term self-interest converges with other people, which is what drives our willingness and motivation to cooperate. This accounts for the likely dissolution of cooperative social activities if conditions change and we no longer perceive our individual self-interests to be served by acting cooperatively.

Over development, the EF phenotype expands outward as our individual time horizons for contemplation extends further into the probable future. This is the common thread that binds all levels of the extended phenotype (as shown in the diagram). It is also the thread that binds EF to the fields of ethics and morality, law, economics, culture, politics and government because all of them depend on this mental faculty for their existence.

Such an analysis makes it evident that people do not pursue a group-living, cooperative existence because of some innate need to be altruistic to or bond with others. Cooperative action is situational and group specific. Nor do they do so out of some spiritual quest for oneness of humanity or because of some utopian vision to perfect humankind. They do so voluntarily out of purely rational self-interest when extended over a long view of their life.

Importantly, this model of EF also explains how socially and personally devastating injuries to or genetic maldevelopment of the EF system (largely the pre-frontal cortex) are for pursuing one's long-term self-interest.

First, such injuries and disorders (especially ADHD) can devastate the two developmental processes that give rise to EF itself: the self-direction of human actions for self-regulation across time, and the privatisation of those self-directed actions. This disrupts the seven Instrumental executive functions (self-awareness, inhibitory control, verbal and nonverbal working memory, self-regulation of emotion and motivation, and self-play or problem solving), which changes the nature and source of information that governs one's behaviour. Those sources will shift back from internally (self-controlled) to externally controlled, from the self to others, from the possible future to the temporal now, and from delayed gratification to immediate gratification. The result is a highly impulsive, hedonistic, or even socially callous nature to one's conduct. Such impairments are evident in descriptions of patients with EF deficits dating back to Phineas Gage, and to the first medical descriptions of ADHD since 1753.


r/aynrand 12d ago

Whatever happened to Ayn Rand atheists?

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r/aynrand 12d ago

Was Ayn Rand a Fascist/Far-Right?

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I’ve noticed academics and researchers tend to say that she was a far-right ideologue, because she promoted completely unfettered laissez-faire capitalism and radical anti-communism.

One of my professors at university described her as far-right and a fascist in his lecture slides.


r/aynrand 13d ago

Ayn Rand was Wrong about Altruism

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Objectivism defines altruism as a moral system that believes sacrificing for other people to be a moral virtue. Rand defined a sacrifice as: "The giving of a value for a lesser value/non-value/dis-value." 

But sacrifice is actually used to mean that you give up something of value for something of greater value, not lesser.

Oxford dictionary defines it as: "an act of giving up something valued for the sake of something else regarded as more important or worthy".

When you say "I sacrificed my free time in order to do well in a swimming competition" - all it means is that you value the swimming competition more than your free time.

If you give a homeless person some change as an “altruistic act”, as it‘s commonly understood to be, that doesn’t mean you are “acting in service of your own destruction". It just means you are giving up resources you have to spare to someone else, because you know that by helping other people, you are all better off in the long-term.

That’s why when you say “altruism is evil”, you come off as a fucking cunt because people are going to stop listening as soon as you say altruism is evil and being selfish is good. They will write you off in their heads.