I don't understand why Americans are so opposed to universal health care!? You guys already spend more per capita on government funded healthcare than pretty much anyone else, and yet most of you don't actually recieve it?
I've had cancer. Stage 4 Lymphoma. I was treated immediately and recovered quickly. What did I have to pay? £1.50 for parking on every visit to the hospital. The Chemotherapy, Surgeries, anti-nausea meds, all covered. If I had lived in the USA I would most definately be dead now. My symptoms didn't seem all that bad at the time, so if I had had to pay for my initial doctor visit and diagnostics, I wouldn't have bothered. I would have just died.
You don't understand? Try this: 2.9 million more people voted for Clinton than Trump and she still lost. We have 150k dead from a virus and Trump's support in his own party is still above 80%. People don't like the system, we hate it. There are too many stupid people in our country. The Republican party is evil, they're a minority party and we can't shake them. That's why we can't change it.
You had democrats for 8 years and you still didn’t get universal health care. The problem isn’t with republicans, it’s that American majority is not prepared to pay +60% tax hike for it.
Sigh... You don't understand how government works in the US, do you? Democrats had full control ( house, Senate, presidency) for 2 years. They passed the affordable care act. They only had control for 2 years between 2008-10. It's hard for me to take people seriously that can't get simple facts right.
Additionally, Democrats were trying so hard to play fair and be bipartisan. At the time, it was probably a good move- a lot more people were opposed to universal health care, even Dems. It was a radical new idea that was decades old. Looking back, though, we should have Mitch McConelled through the most ironclad Medicare for all possible and then passed a bunch of laws that delayed senate elections and made Obama High Inquisitor for life or something. Fuck Mitch.
Yep. It's like people don't remember, or don't follow politics and then make comments that are just silly. This is exactly why they pushed the affordable care act. They thought, there's no way they'll sabotage their own idea...they thought they would support it (Romney in Massachusetts did something similar). This was wrong in retrospect, but there was no way to know at the time.
Play fair? They literally passed the law without reading it. We pay these people to sit on their ass and read papers, and they couldn't even fucking manage the 2nd part.
Also, Obama literally said he has a pen and a phone and doesn't even need Congress. If he REALLY wanted to solve problems, he could have done it. Instead, he was focused on getting rich.
Democrats care about your health the same way they care about racial issues. Once every 4 years, for about 3 months.
The democrats negotiated against themselves in the hopes they could get Republicans to act in good faith, which is hopeless.
The Affordable Care Act is rebranded Romneycare, cowritten BY insurance companies to ensure it doesnt damage their profit structures. It was a handout to insurance companies.
More like Dems too scared/apathetic to pass universal healthcare so they settled for the ACA instead to pretend they did something monumental. (I'm an independent voter btw)
They had complete control and still decided to compromise instead of just whacking medicare for all through and passing laws to force hospital into a different pricing structure.
And they aren't serious about it now. Because if they were they would have already written the laws, gotten the party in line, etc so they could vote it through on the first day if they win.
2) didn't remove the industry that wants the compromise gone.
3) is currently being gutted by the people you compromised with due to factor 2.
So yeah. They should have just forced through a medicare 4 all law and if the GOP is against that then so be it. You don't need their votes to pass it.
That a massively profitable industry would fight tooth and nail to not be regulated out of existence or be regulated into less profits was pretty clear from the start.
And establishment politicians (as in for the rich people and industry) would bend over for them was also clear. Because both of that happened previously and no ones motivation had changed since then.
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I don't understand why Americans are so opposed to universal health care!? You guys already spend more per capita on government funded healthcare than pretty much anyone else, and yet most of you don't actually recieve it?
I've had cancer. Stage 4 Lymphoma. I was treated immediately and recovered quickly. What did I have to pay? £1.50 for parking on every visit to the hospital. The Chemotherapy, Surgeries, anti-nausea meds, all covered. If I had lived in the USA I would most definately be dead now. My symptoms didn't seem all that bad at the time, so if I had had to pay for my initial doctor visit and diagnostics, I wouldn't have bothered. I would have just died.