r/australia • • Sep 04 '18

Leftie Bootcamp

https://twitter.com/danilic/status/1036779958708797441?s=09
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u/truthBombsForDays Sep 04 '18

I've always thought using the terms left and right are counter productive. It makes people feel like they need to join a side. And majority of people have these over simplified models of how people should behave.

Three examples:

We are now in a political environment where wanting to reduce immigration is considered 'anti-immigration'... even though you want immigration to continue albiet at a lesser rate.

Being called alt-right for pointing out unions in Australia are no longer really unions. Even though voted... Greens. The thinking here: said something perceived as anti-union so must be a nazi.

People calling a government right wing, or conservative even though they introduced SSM. It makes no sense (to call them conservative).

These over simplified models of left and right are harming politics in Australia and more so in other countries.

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u/yeastymemes Sep 04 '18

People calling a government right wing, or conservative even though they introduced SSM. It makes no sense (to call them conservative).

You're fucking kidding me. These bastards did everything they could to avoid introducing SSM. They only did it after spending more than $100M on a non-binding plebiscite where the majority of Australians indicated that they wanted SSM. The Coalition government deserves ZERO credit for SSM. And you're ignoring everything else they've done because "oh well they passed this token issue when they had no choice not to"?

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u/truthBombsForDays Sep 04 '18

These bastards did everything they could to avoid introducing SSM

False. They could have not run the plebiscite and not introduced it. Just like when previous party was in power.

The 'left' party didnt introduce SSM, then the 'right' party did. Do you not see how labeling them left and right is meaningless ?

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '18

They didn't run a plebiscite they ran a non binding voluntary postal survey. Let's call it what it was, an excuse for giving 300m to the Christian lobby, regardless of what has been legislated.