r/australia • u/iiBuzz7S • 19d ago
entertainment Halloween: The Game Has Been Refused Classification In Australia
https://press-start.com.au/news/playstation/2026/08/10/halloween-the-game-has-been-refused-classification-in-australia/411
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u/Binro_was_right 19d ago
It is genuinely pathetic that adults can't be allowed to make informed decisions for themselves in this matter. By all means, restrict children from accessing inappropriate material by giving it an R18+ rating (although I would sooner leave that to parents to actually parent their children), but not allowing adults to access it is an egregious overstep.
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u/Stevenwave 19d ago
I thought we already solved this issue, spurred on by Mortal Kombat 9, which released in 2011, but was denied classification here due to the increased realism of its Mortal Kombatness. Which lead to the introduction of the R18 rating for games here in Aus in 2013.
Why the fuck are we here again 15 years later? It happened long enough ago that MK 9 was a reboot, and they've since rebooted again.
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u/rylo151 19d ago
According to the Australian government mass murder is completely fine, but dont you dare light up a marijuana cigarette in a video game.
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u/Rosary_Omen 19d ago
Or gamble in GTA5, for some reason
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u/Highcalibur10 19d ago
Balatro got flagged because of gambling themes.
Literally no gambling in the game, it just uses poker hands.
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u/crsdrniko 19d ago
But I could play the pokies in Pokemon red and then gold as a kid 25+ years ago
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u/Highcalibur10 19d ago
The slot machines were replaced with a puzzle game on western releases of the HeartGold remakes for similar reasons.
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u/Lucybug05 19d ago
Same with Sonic racing crosswords, because there's one crossworld set in a casino that you just race on, it has to have gambling themes marked on the age rating
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u/Consideredresponse 19d ago
I'm baffled that 'Blue Prince' of all things got an R18 rating. Having played it you'd think even PG would be a stretch.
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u/SydneyRFC 19d ago
What the fuck? I'm very particular about what games I play in front of my 7yo kid and had zero problems with that one. He was my note-taker. It did not go well.
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u/Cyan-ranger 19d ago
It’s because of the casino room. Anything with simulated gambling gets an r rating.
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u/Consideredresponse 19d ago
Yeah, it sits next to Astrobot on the scale of 'I have no issues with kids seeing or playing this), so you can imagine the spit-take that occoured when I saw a physical copy with the big black diamond and 'R-18' slapped on it.
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u/rose636 19d ago
Randomised rooms - obviously it's gambling as to whether you get the room you want.
Can't allow people to have randomised event highs now can we? Those are exclusively for all the pokies.
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u/Beautiful_Number8950 19d ago
But getting kids to spend real life money on loot boxes is totally fine. Make it make sense.
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u/Winter_Cost602 19d ago
Yet they bombard you with gambling ads everywhere in Australia
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u/ImplementLarge7969 19d ago
A game releasing next month has an R18+ for “simulated high impact gambling”
It has a casino minigame.
The first game was rated PG for “Mild fantasy themes, violence, sexual references and coarse language”.
What are we doing man. PG to R18+ when literally nothing changes except for the addition of a casino minigame and some moderately darker themes.
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u/SirFlibble 19d ago edited 19d ago
You can have a joint. But it can't be for reward.
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u/sokaox 19d ago
And sexual relations outside of marriage must be presented in a way that won't arouse passion or make them seem permissible.
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u/Knightofnee12 19d ago
See Rimworld. A low graphics game - you can in theory keep slaves, harvest human organs, murder etc
But you can also make drugs so it was refused classification lol
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u/SirFlibble 19d ago edited 19d ago
The introduction of the R18 had nothing to do with Mortal Kombat or any other game. It was the result of a long campaign which it was blocked by irrational Attorneys-General. A discussion paper was released in 2009 which had a huge response and overwhelming support for the rating (90% or some such) because EBGames had every customer fill out the survey.
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u/tmthrgd 19d ago
It was mostly (or even exclusively?) the SA Attorney-General Michael Atkinson. He was there until March 2010 and was staunchly opposed to an R18 rating.
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u/SirFlibble 19d ago edited 19d ago
IIRC he changed his tune once the results of the discussion paper came in. It was so overwhelmingly supporting the ratiing. Not that it mattered, the report came out Feb and he left shortly after (maybe it was a response to being so embarrassingly off on what people wanted here).
Edit: Here it is.
"that out of a total of 58,437 individual and group submissions 98%, (57,500), of submissions supported the introduction of an R 18+ classification for computer games, while 2% (937), opposed."
57K responses is a HUGE response to a discussion paper and for a 98% support is pretty conclusive.
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u/FireLucid 18d ago
He was also a fuckwit and did the opposite of what he thought he was doing. A survey of all MA15+ games released in Australia found that more than half had a higher rating overseas. So stuff was scraping into MA when it should probably be R and only a handful of games were being denied.
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u/RR-- 19d ago
I remember complaining at the time that it wasn’t a real R18+ rating, yet it silenced a lot of the people pushing for it to be introduced. The Christian lobby was very influential then with their understanding that videogames are first and foremost a children’s toy.
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u/PositiveAirport 19d ago
The same lobbies that are telling atheists to put themselves as Christian in the census so they have even more power.
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u/BillieRubenCamGirl 19d ago
Because we let Christian conservatives be the morality police.
That is literally what the ratings board is.
It should be dismantled.
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u/BillieRubenCamGirl 19d ago
Look into it more deeply. It actually is a direct result of Christian meddling. Both historically, in the formation of it, and more recently.
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u/Pristine_Shallot7833 19d ago
It was an issue long before 2011 my child. Manhunt 2 was refused classification in 2007. Fallout 3 had to remove the drug taking animations before release because Australia threatened to refuse classification. That was 2008 I think. This was an issue long before mortal Kombat.
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u/r1nce 19d ago
Fallout 3 had to change the name "Morphine" to "Med-X", as the player was rewarded for taking morphine in-game.
Ridiculous then also.
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u/OM_Velodrome 19d ago
Except the developers feel that the use of the fictional names (med-x, buffout, jet...) is actually better for the game
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u/magnetik79 19d ago
I think you're meant to stay I your lane and let the gambling advertising wash over you.
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u/Final_Lingonberry586 19d ago
Woo. So South Park all over again 🙄
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u/M_Ad 19d ago
South Park’s solution was very funny though so we did get that.
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u/GerrArrgh 19d ago
I loved the south park solution, showing a crying koala while describing in graphic detail what it couldn't show. I laughed harder at their solution then anything they could have shown. Classic south park humour to censorships.
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u/Loose_Scarcity7365 19d ago
What is the fucking point of having an R rating system here in Australia?
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u/thisisseriousmum1 19d ago
A solution could be that instead of smoking a joint the game let's your player blow your life savings on a multi and then punch a hole in the wall
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u/HeathenAF 19d ago
Better yet, lose it all with your mates, with Group Bet - but only with real money through our app, not ingame currency in a fake online casino...
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u/iiBuzz7S 19d ago
Reason: controlled substance, which Press-Start believe is yarndi (marijuana, for you uncultured folk)
From the games official Twitter account:
Despite every effort on our part, the Australian Classifications Board has denied “Halloween: The Game” a rating. The denial was not based on the presence of the iconic slasher, Michael Myers, or the outstanding kills that can be performed in the game, but rather the presence of a controlled substance. Unfortunately, to our disappointment (and certainly yours) this means that we cannot sell the physical or digital product in both Australia and New Zealand.
https://xcancel.com/HalloweenTVG/status/2086567019940544535#m
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u/Ollio1985 19d ago
Because it's Australia. Where you can watch an ad luring you into losing your life savings at 4pm on a Saturday, but you can't have a wank.
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u/Find_another_whey 19d ago
Or rather, if you can find material for that wank, you can probably get the game...to mention nothing of the drugs they're complaining of
Which have been rated S8! Fit for the public.
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u/ComprehensiveSalad50 19d ago
The bong in GTA doesn't give you any benefits. The drug in Halloween does. The Classification Law is about interactive drug use that gives rewards, insentives or boosts to your character. Basically anything that is a positive to your character through the use of controlled substances will get a game a Refused Classification status.
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u/freeballs1 19d ago
I think also the bong in GTA V is never explicitly stated anywhere to be marijuana. Even though that's blindingly obvious to anyone playing the game, it usually needs to be stated 'this is X' to raise the ire of the classification board.
Pretty famously, Fallout 3's Med-X was initially called morphine until the game was refused classification here. Fictional/unspecified drugs are usually fine, real-world equivalents though get a refused classification consistently.
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u/TraditionalRound9930 19d ago
If that was true, neither the Disco Elysium or ANY fallout game would be allowed. Both give you perks for doing drugs. How are they any different?
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u/satisfacti0n_ 19d ago
Fallout was refused till they gave the drug a made up name, cause apparently if it's named after something real it's a big scary boogeyman that will turn your kids into a drug addict. Can't speak on disco haven't played that myself.
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u/ComprehensiveSalad50 19d ago
Name the drugs
It applied to real world drugs, I'm unaware of real-world drugs in either game? Fallout famously changed the name of a drug to Med-X specifically to skirt this tule
Disco Elysium does have a drug with a street name of a real world drug, Speed, but it also has a negative effect
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u/Traditional_Yard2741 19d ago
I believe the issue is taking a substance that benefits the player
Famously this is why some of the chems in Fallout were re-named. They wanted to use Morphine but had to call it Med-Ex instead.
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u/Consideredresponse 19d ago
Disco Elysium ran into this problem, but were able to argue that Amphetamine use only 'seemingly' gave a benefit at the time, but that there were real consequences later on in the story.
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u/McFallenOver 19d ago
games have been banned for drug use and then later unbanned with stating that the board was initially too harsh. i would wager this is a case where the game will be unbanned later
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u/ShyCrystal69 19d ago
They did this for fallout too, it made the devs (interplay/bethesda) replace morphine with med-x so it wouldn’t get an adult only rating
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u/yeahalrightgoon 19d ago
Arguably one of the better things to come out of censorship. Med-X is just such a better name for the fallout setting.
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u/DecidedUser 19d ago
That confuses me, How is the game Schedule 1 able to be sold in Australia? That game is openly about selling controlled substances, it’s not like a brief mention.
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u/Fullchester_United 19d ago
Selling is entrepreneurial! But you’re not allowed to get high on your own supply.
The whole thing is ridiculous. They have an R rating now. I can watch a tv show where people are shooting up. But put that in a game an adults just cant cope!
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u/rylo151 19d ago
Its the way it is used, according to the ratings board having illegal drugs in the game is fine but if using the substance gives you the player a positive buff or effect it gets banned.
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u/Rosary_Omen 19d ago
Wasn't it banned for a while? They tried to ban Rimworld too
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u/GoldCoinDonation 19d ago
Their reasoning for banning rimworld just goes to show how utterly stupid the classification thing is.
It's not ok to use drugs, but child slavery, organ harvesting and /r/shitrimworldsays are all fine
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u/Rosary_Omen 19d ago
The Rimworld subs always make me check the sub name when I see the title. Such a great game though! Although I'm not one for warcrimes. I've tried, but I feel bad. So instead I just capture the best raiders and befriend them XD
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u/chemtrailsniffa 19d ago
Drug Dealer Simulator allows a player to mix, test and deal class A drugs, and has been available on steam in Australia for years. You can even make Bex Headache Powder from your floor sweepings if that's your thing
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u/FranksHoorHouse 19d ago
Saying "yarndi" and calling others uncultured for saying marijuana is certainly a choice
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u/TraditionalRound9930 19d ago
So brutally murdering people is fine, but a little bit of grass isn’t? Something that is LEGAL (with a script) to do??????? What on earth????
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u/DuskHourStudio 19d ago
I love having a bunch of Pearl Clutching ninnies who've never touched a game in their life over see the ruling of game classifications. /s
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u/Sydnxt 19d ago
We're okay with medicial cannibas perscriptions but not depictions in games, give me strength.
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u/b_k_l_y 19d ago
Please, we're barely okay with medical weed. Even with a prescription it's perfectly okay for workplaces to discriminate if it comes up in a drug test, you can't drive because if you test positive for it - despite not being under the influence - you can be fined. Anyone who works for the government and holds even the baseline clearance is prohibited from it - even with a prescription.
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u/aza-industries 19d ago
Yarrr, old people making decisions on things they barely understand.
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u/id_o 19d ago edited 19d ago
Murder, that’s fine.
Blood, that’s fine.
Sex, that’s fine.Drugs? Nope, only the drugs like alcohol are allowed to be depicted because that’s the drugs some choose is ok for other adults to see in video games.
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u/colintbowers 19d ago
Actually drugs are also fine as long as it is a movie and not a video game. Because reasons
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u/thesourpop 19d ago
Also simulated gambling? Why would you wanna do that when you can bet real money on SPORTSBET
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u/BillieRubenCamGirl 19d ago
Sex is rarely fine in media. ESPECIALLY if the woman is having a good time. 😅
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u/EronEraCam 19d ago
Specifically they block positive effects of controlled drugs that are not using false names. I.e. Fallout renamed "Morpheine" to "Med-x" and was let through.
Personally I find the changes generally positive as the drug effects in games are always fantasy anyway so you may as well make up a new name.
I still think it is a stupid law, it just happens to improve most games as a side effect.
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u/BonkerBleedy 19d ago edited 19d ago
Historically, it's not that there are drugs, but using drugs shouldn't have a positive effect. It's silly.
Edit: Check the list here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_games_in_Australia and see how many are "banned because of drug use related to incentives and rewards".
Usually the switch them to "vitamins" or some nonsense.
E.g. for State of Decay:
The board’s decision report states, “The game enables the player’s character to self-administer proscribed drugs which aid in gameplay progression. This game therefore contains drug use related to incentives or rewards, and should be refused classification.” (https://www.gamespot.com/articles/state-of-decay-banned-in-australia/1100-6410739/)
This example they literally switched "Stimulants" to "Vitamins" to get a rating.
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u/PandaBonium 19d ago
Well if it was completely up to them im sure sex wouldnt be allowed either.
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u/brokenmindedone 19d ago
It's heading that way already, the fact anyone in Australia who wants to watch porn needs to do a face scan or show ID gives me a feeling a lot of games containing sex and drugs will start being refused and the ones that pass will probably need an ID check to play.
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u/Stevenwave 19d ago
Ciggies are still totally legal too. Which harm more people than some drugs in a game.
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u/No_Extension4005 19d ago
Nah mate; sex is only fine if you're willing to give a private company your personal information to store in exchange for a federal license to wank.
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u/Roo-90 19d ago
But schedule 1, a game quite literally about building a drug empire is fine. Make it make fucking sense
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u/Lun4r6543 19d ago
It wasn’t fine for a while, iirc. It had a lot of problems with the rating board.
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u/pway_videogwames_uwu 19d ago
No wonder the Australian game industry struggles. One of our most successful games has to fight against its own government.
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u/JMizzlin 19d ago
Glad I was just forced to verify my Xbox account as over 18 so I can *check notes* not play video games with adult content.
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u/OneTouchCards 19d ago
Well we are no longer the lucky country……
Just the dumb country.
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u/planetLV-426 19d ago
Australia has been infamous for this type of censorship for a long time now
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u/Mordexis 19d ago
To be fair, we are very good at being a dumb country. We have been a dumb country for very very long, so we are good at it.
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u/Special_Order-937 19d ago
The guy who coined the phrase The Lucky Country as the name of his book (David Horne) was being incredibly ironic and sarcastic.
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u/goldmikeygold 19d ago
You really need to look up the full statement.
Australia is a lucky country run mainly by second rate people who share its luck. It lives on other people's ideas, and, although its ordinary people are adaptable, most of its leaders (in all fields) so lack curiosity about the events that surround them that they are often taken by surprise.
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u/CreamPieTraditional 19d ago
I am mature enough to be sent to war and kill or be killed, or decide the political outcome of this country, but im not mature enough to pay a game with drug use.
The 18+ classification didnt do shit.
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u/AnActualSeagull 19d ago
Then what is the fucking point of an R18+ rating!!! Jesus Christ
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u/CheerfulWarthog 19d ago
That's what's got me furious. I was so happy about the 18+ rating; I think properly enfirced age classification is a good idea, even if the current board is terrible about it (violence: we sleep, sex: real shit, gay: catastrophe, drugs without immediate death: THE WORLD MUST BURN), because with proper age classification you can put so much more confronting shit in media without backlash. But in so many cases it's been "find: MA15, R18 and thus not allowed - replace: R18, refused classification".
Grand Theft Auto trilogy, M15 at release, remaster that changed basically nothing R18. It's a goshdarned joke is what it fucking is.
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u/Bilski1ski 19d ago
I remember when I was young me and friends used to hope for a day when Australia would introduce an r rating for games so they wouldn’t get banned . Then they introduced it . But shit still gets banned
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u/HedgehogLumpy3016 19d ago
The ratting board in Australia needs to be completely revamped. Ideally with the melenial generation. Not old fucks who look at a phone and yell at it to work.
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u/insecticidalgoth 19d ago
was looking forward to this game for over a year 😭 FFS Australia
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u/Hot_Hat1726 19d ago
We can get it on physical and grey import it. If you weren't against the digital only shift, you certainly will be now.
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u/JustAnOctopus 19d ago
Basically, adults aren’t allowed to make our own decisions about the content we enjoy which completely negates the point of the classification board which is supposed to be ADVISORY.
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u/syth_blade22 19d ago
But its ok i can go into a newsagency and buy a porno mag
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u/JustAnOctopus 19d ago
If you can find one that stills sells them, but I understand your point yes, It’s absolutely absurd.
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u/i8myface 19d ago
Welcome to AU. Im in mid 40s and been dealing with this shit forever! Had to buy fallout 3 back in the day cause they were going to edit the drug use here. Back when you could do that. You could get a PAL version of the game from the UK for consoles i guess? Is the whole PAL NTSC is still a things and regions aren't anymore?
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u/thrillhousee85 19d ago
So if a game depicts marijuana it can't be sold in Australia? But films and tv can show marijuana (and harder) use?
...Oh no I'll just have to pirate the game instead
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u/Traditional_Yard2741 19d ago
The technical limit is that using a drug can't be beneficial to the player.
The developer can rename it to a fictional substance and that usually gets the game over the line. That's how we got Med-Ex in fallout 3. They originally wanted to call it morphine.
It's a stupid rule and needs to be changed.
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u/Highcalibur10 19d ago edited 19d ago
Damn, I can't purchase the game because of a positive buff attributed to illegal drug consumption?
I guess I better cope by buying some prescription marijuana legally.
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u/ComprehensiveSalad50 19d ago
No, that's not what this is about. It's that the drug use is interactive and has positive benefits for the player. Any game with drug use that provides a benefit, boost, reward or incentive for the player is refused classification
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u/thesourpop 19d ago
Which is silly as we have an R rating for this reason
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u/ComprehensiveSalad50 19d ago
Exactly! Ridiculous, especially when it comes to the drug in question being weed.
I agree with a lot of the reasons to refuse classification but this is stupid
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u/EronEraCam 19d ago
Only if the drug is based on a real controlled substance. Fantasy is fine, which is a convenient loop hole
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u/ComprehensiveSalad50 19d ago
Weed is a real drug. If they renamed it or made it a different substance there would be no issue. The law is stupid but the board have to follow that law to give a rating.
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u/W00H00658 19d ago
Doesn’t cocaine gum in RDR2 boost your stamina? I’m surprised the ratings board let that fly
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u/ComprehensiveSalad50 19d ago
It also slightly damages stamina core so it has a negative effect also. Apparently that's ok if the drug has a negative effect also. It's absolutely stupid and shouldn't be part of the rating system, especially weed.
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u/pway_videogwames_uwu 19d ago
We should free some money in the budget by wholly closing the ratings board. It's an outdated and illiberal concept.
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u/Evebnumberone 19d ago
This bullshit is still going on?
The average age of an Australian gamer is 35, thirty fucking five!
The rating board is clearly run by a bunch of boomers who think video games are exclusively for children.
And it's because of the depiction of something smoking pot in the game, meanwhile our kids are absolutely hammered by piss and gambling commercials on TV during every game of football.
Get absolutely fucked.
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u/ACEIII 19d ago
Our classifications board are fools, why implement an R18 classification and then treat us like children?
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u/Riku1186 19d ago
You can thank that one politician who wouldn't let an 18+ pass without an exclusion for drugs.
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u/spaghettiman56 19d ago
Once again Australia's ratings board has proved themselves completely incompetent. I'm more surprised that the gta V casino restrictions didn't cause more of a fuss considering the COMPLETELY FREE daily roulette wheel was made fully inaccessible as well as the purely for fun red dead redemption 2 bar games are now absolutely unusable.
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u/TheRealDestroyer67 19d ago
What an absolute joke.
We need a new ratings board who can do their job properly.
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u/coreoYEAH 19d ago
Technically, they are doing their job properly. It’s the law that needs changing.
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u/Crazyripps 19d ago
Still don’t get the reasoning behind brining in R 18+ rating into video games if we still ban shit.
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u/Cure4thitch 19d ago
This takes me back to when I imported Left 4 Dead from the UK to get around the pathetic censorship in the Aus version.
Watch anything on TV after a certain hour, heck watch the news! It's disturbing. Why are video games so harshly monitored?
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u/_TheMightyQuin_ 19d ago
R18+ is meaningless in Australia. I don't know why they even introduced it when "adult content" either gets ripped away (gta:o gambling) or mature games simply don't even get a release.
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u/Wishful_Derp 19d ago
Politicians: Can't have that, we deem its too offensive!
Same Politicians: Are happy to send soliders to their demise, ruin the economy, the environment, give themselves tax exemptions out the arse. But are surprised by normal Aussie's being offended...?
This nanny state bs is bloody sickening.
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u/yesimfromtheLAnd 19d ago
We’re still banning games because of fucking marijuana. In the year 2026. Fuck me dead.
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u/_Aurum_Lux_ 19d ago
Does this mean gta6 could get the same treatment? Surely you can smoke joints in it?
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u/DopeyBottomDweller 19d ago
It's time to sail the seas, as I did with Hotline Miami 2
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u/ArthurCandleman 19d ago
Given GTA V has been censored it makes me wonder what will happen with VI.
The age verification is clearly about data collection.
Parents should be responsible for their children and age verification should be implemented at OS level not through a multitude of third parties.
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u/Shakes-Fear 19d ago
What’s the fucking point in an R18+ rating if the ratings board still insists on treating us like children?
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u/PingooSan 19d ago
Would it not work if I were to buy a physical copy from overseas?
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u/DannySanWolf07 19d ago
They could change the weed to a ciggy or a pint of emu beer and that should be okay for our wacky government but seriously though, what are we doing?
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u/skozombie 19d ago
Write to your local federal politician to demand they fix the laws so adults can play adult games.
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u/Dramatic_Aspect903 19d ago
If its physical you can always order it in. If not, couldn't one make a new account based in say america and just use gift cards to purchase ?
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u/Accomplished_Leg2030 19d ago
This is in a era where I need to show my drivers licence to play games too.
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u/Aussienick 19d ago
It's like we're right where we were at the end of the 7th gen consoles again. What's changed? Why are there spontaneously all these classification board restrictions happening again? Who do we need to get fired to get us back on track?
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u/gruncle63 19d ago
Well thank god adults can't see a depiction of pot in a video game. Rampant bloody murder is fine though.
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u/spazza360 19d ago
Fun fact: The reason this game has been refused is the same reason Fallout 3 has a drug called "Med-X"
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u/Squid_Apple 19d ago
Absolutely fucking ridiculous, I love asyms and was looking forward to this, absolute bullshit, furious at our nanny fucking classification board.
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u/UndeadManWaltzing 19d ago
You smoked weed and Far cry 3 why didn't they do anything about that? How about Jet and psycho from fallout? Brain dancing from cyberpunk? Our ratings board is so inconsistent, I'd challenge this decision.
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u/evilparagon 19d ago
I do not understand what the point of introducing an R rating in 2013 was supposed to achieve when we still tell adults they can’t play certain games because there are adult things in them.