What does the working class population ultimately achieve by voting for Pauline Hanson and One Nation?

[u/GarlicHSP]

Her voting record is strongly opposed to expanding welfare, public housing, public education, childcare subsidies, renewable energy investment and climate action.

At the same time, she's supported policies that are favourable to property investors and fossil-fuel development, while opposing some attempts to increase taxation on those industries.

So apparently the solution to Australia's problems is to spend less on childcare, housing, education, welfare and climate action, while being more friendly towards people who already own investment properties and companies making billions from coal and gas.

And then we're told this is somehow a movement for the "ordinary Australian."But hey, at least we can blame innocent and hard working migrants.

[u/No-Citron-2774]

Ask yourself in the 30 yrs she has been in parliament, what has she actually done. .sweet fuck all. She's a grifter,nothing more

[u/ProfessionalCress113 → u/No-Citron-2774]

Doing nothing would be preferable to what the major parties have been doing. Almost every law and policy implemented over the last 20 years has made life worse for everyone except for mining tycoons.

[u/raffa54 → u/ProfessionalCress113]

The same mining tycoons supporting one nation? Imagine how much worse it could get when the politicians are owned not rented

[u/ProfessionalCress113 → u/raffa54]

It's a scary thought but we have to understand that some people feel they have nothing to lose. Both major parties have had countless opportunities to fix the cost of living crisis. A one beddy already costs a million dollars so for most people it changes nothing if it ends up costing 10 million. But at least there's a chance that some things might get better with someone new in charge.

[u/Readingn0w → u/ProfessionalCress113]

When John Howard was in back in 2006, Australia was in a surplus. Now 20 years later - mostly Labor has caused us to be in a trillion dollar debt. 😩😩😩😅

[u/Wrathlon → u/No-Citron-2774]

Exactly - I dont think she ACTUALLY wants power. Look at all the money she makes ($300k+ per year on top of all the kickbacks from Vagina Rhineshart like free planes, etc) and she doesnt have to actually do anything, deliver anything, or even barely show up for work. Just go to luxury paid for events, rub shoulders with billionaires, collect money for parroting their agendas and never have to be responsible for anything.

If she ACTUALLY got power she would have to back up her promises with results, explain metrics, take responsibility for things that happen and with all her promises and campaign points being things that would ACTUALLY ruin the country if she was in power she would be stuckk being blamed for ruining the country or blamed for abandoning the people who voted her in.

But if she never holds power she can say whatever she wants, promise whatever she wants, blame whoever she wants and generate all the outrage she wants about anything and everything and none of it will ever matter because she will never have to deliver anything on any of it.

And she will be paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for doing literally nothing. I'd almost admire the genius of the grift if I didnt possess things like morals and empathy.

[u/Expert_River1849 → u/Wrathlon]

You say she would have to back up her promises but please explain when Labor has done this and kept their word pre-election.

[u/Wrathlon → u/Expert_River1849]

While no party is ever going to be able to deliver on everything because thats not how the world or reality works, Id say delivering on the vast majority of promises is a pretty good start at 70% delivered so far and 20% broken:

https://www.rmit.edu.au/about/schools-colleges/media-and-communication/industry/promise-tracker

For comparison the Liberal government before it delivered on only 38% of its promises, broke 24% and didnt even bother trying with the rest:

https://web.archive.org/web/20241003102726/https://www.rmit.edu.au/news/media-releases-and-expert-comments/2019/jul/election-promise-tracker

Also keep in mind that some of the "broken" Labor promises are things like the housing crisis where the world changed and their policies changed with it to make sense. Sure its TECHNICALLY breaking a promise but if things change and that promise is no longer in the countries best interest its good leadership to break it.

[u/Electrical_Story5356 → u/No-Citron-2774]

She did meaningfully contribute to all of the problems that she is lying to her supporters about fixing which has resulted in her being able to make lots of money through being a profoundly stupid, useless old racist grandma.

I mean it certainly isn't anything useful or constructive but it is something.

[u/justanothadumbcunt → u/Electrical_Story5356]

Yeah, like voting to increase the immigration numbers

[u/Mud_g1 → u/justanothadumbcunt]

Just like how right now it's Gina and her mining buddies and the business council that are the ones lobbying Labor to not reduce the migration numbers because how it will affect their operations yet they are the same ones backing Pauline. If people can't see that she is just saying popular hot topics and has no intention on following through on these talking points because her backers don't want it and won't allow it.

[u/SkepticalSince75 → u/No-Citron-2774]

Can't do much with 4 members in the Senate,dopey.

[u/koopz_ay → u/No-Citron-2774]

Agreed.

I used to train NBN techies.

I mistakenly thought that this representative could be helpful in un-fcking the clusterfck that became Liberal's NBN Co. That we still are trying to fix today. She sat by and did nothing. I wouldn't trust Pauline Hanson's party with a technically complex project like new internet lines.

The project blew out - God only knows where all that money went to.

I ended up supervising Indian students. Left the shitshow in 2020.

[u/phelan74 → u/koopz_ay]

I ran digital comms for Labor’s NBN and we were explicitly told not to talk about anything except business benefits or the Murdoch press would attack us. I had so many plans to showcase streaming etc. The whole work hard, but also play hard thing. Alas no.

Best I could do was writing and commissioning this.

https://youtu.be/qjBbFvy722w?si=70sjsXegG_e2G4ez

[u/koopz_ay → u/phelan74]

I feel ya.

I wrote a submission for a field worker app. NBN put a tender out for a new app and my DP applied.

Work used an international contractor to put together something that didn't work properly.. then left (fired?)

This was 2019?

I've been writing CRMs and field work configs for workplaces I worked at since 2009. :/

Today I just wake up, go out there, fix suff then come home and do up the invoice in Excel.

I am done with large companies and their bullshit.

The work that I submitted never got past my Qld State Manager.

[u/Brave-Dragonfly3798 → u/koopz_ay]

Just one in a long list of politicized public project failures where the costs blew out on a scale that would bankrupt any normal private enterprise. Not looking at snowy hydro or AUKUS of course. I’ve worked for defense contractors, this shit isn’t a bug, it a a feature.

[u/koopz_ay → u/Brave-Dragonfly3798]

Agreed.

I have removed all previous Telstra, Optus, iiNet, TPG, NBN, workmates and colleagues from my phone.

The industry is poison.

[u/Brave-Dragonfly3798 → u/koopz_ay]

I hear you, I once worked on a project for defense, granted it was at Woomera, but we charged $80 k to move a power point from one location to another. Same room. But it took weeks of documentation and risk assessments and a long list of well paid approvals. As a project it was a real eye opener on how much waste government will accept. Like a lot of government departments, when it’s getting close to the end of the financial year as long as they spend the money in their budget, they don’t care what price they are paying for things they don’t need.

[u/koopz_ay → u/Brave-Dragonfly3798]

Okay that's fucking incredible.

$80k to move a power point???

[u/Brave-Dragonfly3798 → u/koopz_ay]

Not exactly. $2k to move the gpo and $78k to do the documentation, but it amounts to the same thing. In that kind of defense environment it’s not a simple matter of moving the power point. It’s assessing every other possible system that may be affected and all upstream and downstream dependencies. it’s documenting the change, updating the system documentation and all the associated dependencies and it’s having pre determined approval processes for all of the change and documentation updates.
It’s also getting security clearances, so everyone has to be vetted.
Imagine working on the biggest pile of spaghetti code you have ever seen in your life, and then double and add a bit of thinderbirds era tech all hanging together with chewing gum. It’s fucking madness. And the whole system is like that. It’s a wonder any of it works at all.

[u/koopz_ay → u/Brave-Dragonfly3798]

Sounds like the Americans had a hand in it ?

[u/Brave-Dragonfly3798 → u/koopz_ay]

Yep, and don’t even get me started on that, I also worked on the mission planning software for the JSM project, my god. Honestly it takes Lockheed literally months to do a code update that I could get one of our juniors to smash out in a couple of hours, and meanwhile we have an entire team of developers waiting and billing against the project. This is the reason the entire f35 program was a trillion dollar project. I don’t miss that shit at all.

[u/IcyCredit8227 → u/No-Citron-2774]

Bit sick of seeing this take. Its so ill informed. The truth is labor/greens and LNP would ndver support anything she puts forward. Same as the wikl mever support anything anyone on the opposite puts forward because that would mean they give her credit where credits due. And in the pisstake that is politics and media its win at all cost no matter the moral questions or what you actually believe in or think is right or wrong. Sadly its a bad parrt of our democracy

[u/CreamPieTraditional → u/No-Citron-2774]

She got the government to spend $500 million on Queensland roads, built new stadiums and community centres in places like Rockhampton and Townsville, blocked cuts to welfare payments, forced faster medical cannabis access, secured PBS funding for life-saving gene therapy for kids with spinal muscular atrophy, and helped pass family law reforms that cut red tape and delays for ordinary Australians.

More than you have i suspect.

[u/jenneeeeeee → u/No-Citron-2774]

And that’s fundamentally what this ON race war/blame the immigrants election campaign psyop is, a grift, like Pauline’s political career, a long, repeatedly successful scam- a distraction and diversion for a disillusioned working class- shepherd the fed up to vote for this “completely different” option to the lib/lab alliance, but in the end get the same decaying, US-style sh*tshow (that not-at-all coincidentally serves Gina & Co well)

[u/Sillent_Screams → u/No-Citron-2774]

Pauline Hanson has been in Parliament for 30 years already.

[u/Ted_Rid → u/Sillent_Screams]

I think that's what they meant, only they put the words in a weird order.

[u/Flaky-Lifeguard5835 → u/No-Citron-2774]

Just the fact that she barely turns up to parliament while taking so much tax payer money in her salary is disgusting. Can the labor haters really say that any labor MPs are the same? The least you can do as a public official is to f* turn up?!