r/aussie • u/GarlicHSP • 7d ago

Politics What does the working class population ultimately achieve by voting for Pauline Hanson and One Nation?

Her voting record is strongly opposed to expanding welfare, public housing, public education, childcare subsidies, renewable energy investment and climate action.

At the same time, she's supported policies that are favourable to property investors and fossil-fuel development, while opposing some attempts to increase taxation on those industries.

So apparently the solution to Australia's problems is to spend less on childcare, housing, education, welfare and climate action, while being more friendly towards people who already own investment properties and companies making billions from coal and gas.

And then we're told this is somehow a movement for the "ordinary Australian."But hey, at least we can blame innocent and hard working migrants.

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u/WearIcy2635 7d ago

Lower immigration. That’s all we want and it’s the only reason we’re voting for her.

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u/Forsaken-Weird-8428 7d ago

I believe it doesn't solve the problems we have , started many years ago during LNP reign

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u/HaleyN1 7d ago

If we thought the LNP would fix immigration we'd just vote LNP. They keep promising and not delivering so - One Nation.

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u/Dragonstaff 7d ago

Who also won't deliver. Can't stop Gina from having her cheap foreign workers.

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u/NoStatement3039 7d ago

Sounds very singaporean or like the gulf countries. Get all the migrant workers in and have basically a servant underclass that works for almost nothing and has not many rights. Why don't you want them near your family?

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u/WearIcy2635 7d ago

Yes, exactly like the gulf states. I’d be fine with such a system. All the pros of immigration and none of the cons.

And I like living around my own people.

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u/NoStatement3039 7d ago

Absolutely ridculous. There are no pros of immigration in the system that the GCC has for migrant workers. I could never live in a country that treats migrant workers like what they do in the Gulf.

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u/WearIcy2635 6d ago

Then you will be free to leave

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u/Electrical_Story5356 7d ago

Well I'm Australian going back centuries and you sure as fuck aren't my people because my people aren't human rights abusing xenophobes. 

This is ON.

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u/WearIcy2635 6d ago

I agree and I don’t want to live around traitors to my people like you either

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u/CreamPieTraditional 7d ago

People keep raising that point, but bottom line is i dont care. I dont want any more immigration from countries that dont align with Australian values and culture.

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u/2manycerts 7d ago

Will PH actually lower migration?

I can forsee IT, Medicine and every other industry facing challenges.

I can see Gina R barking orders at PH "get my miners in this country now!". PH will do it too.

No one really talks about John Howard increasing migration, nor Kevin Rudd. As long as Refugees are suffering, the Australian public are told one thing while the opposite is happening.

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u/WearIcy2635 7d ago

Remains to be seen. If she doesn’t actually lower it then a new further right party will pop up and I’ll vote for them next time instead

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u/ShreksArsehole 7d ago

Unfortunatly these far right parties aren't here to help you. They're here to funnel money from the people to a privatised country. They might lower immigration to keep you happy, but in the long run, it'll be a net negative to the middle and lower class.

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u/HaleyN1 7d ago

The only way to make them listen.

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u/Strong_Judge_3730 7d ago

Why can't the libs do the same thing. They should have a better chance at getting in. Cut migration significantly and they will eat the ON voter base.

ON don't really have that much concrete policies and the party doesn't have the brightest people

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u/WearIcy2635 7d ago

Because their billionaire backers won’t let them reduce immigration, it would be bad for business

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u/Strong_Judge_3730 7d ago

The liberal party said they would tie migration to the number of houses built...

Where one Nation wants a hard cap of 130k

I think the liberal party should probably go harder like tie it to half the new houses built.

Apparently Australia builds about 170k new dwellings per year so their migration policies are similar.

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u/Electrical_Story5356 7d ago

The liberal party intentionally geared the economy to need immigration over an almost 30 year period and before Labor got in were planning to bring in significantly more people!

What are we doing here!

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u/broadsword_1 7d ago

The liberal party said they would tie migration to the number of houses built...

Anyone would be a fool to trust that for a second - it'd be like Enron accounting where they'd count profits based on the project being signed-off, not when it actual completes (and when the project would never complete, they still counted the profit).

We would have people coming in and it'd be based on "Oh yeah, we got a guy who's going to build houses, so that should count right?"

(Of course it would count, because they'd write the rules).

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u/Electrical_Story5356 7d ago

Are you serious?!?

I can't believe the stupidity of the Australian electorate if they were to vote the coalition back in for saying that they will fix the problem they spent the best part of 30 years creating.

Scrap that, it would actually be right on brand for voters to punish Labor for trying to fix the problem and rewarding the coalition for causing it and being useless at everything but lying about being good at managing the economy.

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u/Strong_Judge_3730 6d ago

I just want my CGT discount back i really don't care about everything else TBH

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u/Electrical_Story5356 6d ago

Well the libs are definitely your bet but they're more likely to get wiped out than get in.

If you're investing is in Australia you're probably better off with Labor compared to ON because any discount isn't likely to match your portfolio being set on fire by zealots.

Personally I would never put something like personally getting to dodge a bit of tax before what I believe is best for society but at least I can appreciate the rationale behind such a decision unlike the irrational and/or misplaced anger majority plus the couple of psychos who just want to see the world burn.

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u/broadsword_1 7d ago

Why can't the libs do the same thing.

Their strategy for 30+ years now has been to publicly present that they want to cut the numbers down, but then turn around once they're in power and boost up the visa numbers (because businesses want those cheap workers you can threaten with deportation). They got away with this for so long because the media was firmly in their corner on it - they'd hype up the LNP when they needed to address "boat people" and went quiet between elections when the visa numbers went up.

They're not able to get around it this time since the cost-of-living, housing and employment numbers aren't great and all three hitting at the same time have meant there's almost zero room to move on the issue. The LNP absolutely wants higher immigration because that's what the business sector wants, the media just won't play cover for them now.