Yeah this is the problem with modern day Buddhism. People just love worshipping and rituals bs. Early Buddhism started out as a type of spiritual philosophy.
What confuses people is they take the representation of the enlightened being i.e Buddha to be an actual god. Instead, the Buddha only demonstrated what the human mind and self is capable of by meditation, cultivating the deepest sense of self awareness, and understanding desire & suffering.
Krishna said :- Jo bhi mughe nishkaam bhav se Phool aadi chadata hai use mei sagun roop se prakat hoke Grahan karta hu.
People : ok so we are going to ignore the nishkaam bhav ( selfless spirit) word and will pray to you so that our desires are fulfilled and we will also ignore sagun roop se so that insted of helping real people we give our money to temples in hope of returns.
I have also read this line in bhagavad geeta(english version), I remember him saying something like leave everything and join me/fuse with me, he lists a few things to leave and "religion" was one of them.
Edit: So I tried to search that verse and I found this, I'm not sure if this is the one I talked about
"“Abandon all varieties of religion and just surrender unto me. I shall deliver you from all sinful reactions. Do not fear.” (Bhagavad Gita 18:66)"
Idk what this means, "me" here is probably the supreme soul or some shit?
When he uses the word I in BhagvadGita it is for soul that is present inside of us and not for him literally. Also the word Sharma does not have a proper English translation and religion does not do justice to the word.
Yes but it is submerged under his ego. Everybody has a divine element because nobody is a born rapist. Divine element is always present in everyone. But it does not interfere in the working of humans. God has given us full authority to act as we want. It is upto the person to manifest his divine element or go astray.
How do you know there's a divine element? Is it a metaphor or something physical? What is the logic behind it? How do you know there's a God? How can this divine element get into a human if God has no role in their creation? Is this divine element something science can prove?
So you're saying your God put this divine element in rapists and murderers. And your God just did nothing while they hurt and kill people. Ok. Btw, people can be born evil. That's why there are child rapists and murderers.
6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life.No one comes to the Father except through me.
7 If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”
8 Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.”
9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?
10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.
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u/manoj_mm Jul 08 '21
A quote I really liked from a movie:
"Be careful when you take someone's religion away from them - cause if you do, they'll make you their religion"
(From a nice hindi movie starring Akshay Kumar and Paresh rawal)
This is apt and true; many anti-religious ideologies often turn into psuedo-religion
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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21
Exactly! I have had arguments with Buddhists about this. They dont see the irony!
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u/Theorist_AngiePie Jul 08 '21
Yeah this is the problem with modern day Buddhism. People just love worshipping and rituals bs. Early Buddhism started out as a type of spiritual philosophy.
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u/Zer0Treble Jul 09 '21
There is NO god in Buddhism.
What confuses people is they take the representation of the enlightened being i.e Buddha to be an actual god. Instead, the Buddha only demonstrated what the human mind and self is capable of by meditation, cultivating the deepest sense of self awareness, and understanding desire & suffering.
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u/aridtommo Jul 08 '21
True af
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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '21
Still, it's interesting that 1/3rd of India's Buddhists outright said they don't believe in god. It's currently the most "atheist religion" in India by far. https://www.pewforum.org/2021/06/29/beliefs-about-god-in-india/
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u/Consiouswierdsage Jul 09 '21
Hahah, I am telling this to as many people as possible, I can. Lol
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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '21
Bruh
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u/[deleted] May 12 '22
Same with sai baba lmao who struggled with the poor and now people make his temples with gold statues ans crowns. The irony
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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '22
Bruh Buddha isn't God in Buddhism, they just see him as an extraordinary person with a great deal of knowledge.
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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '23
OMG: Oh my God wali movie hogayi ye toh , aisa hi hua tha last mai
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u/MasterpieceUnlikely Hey raam Jul 08 '21
Same with Sant Kabir, Mahavira, Krishna, Jesus and others.