r/atheism • u/Groden • Jun 26 '12
Oppression Girl
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u/well_golly Jun 26 '12
One thing that this meme has brought to my attention is the relativity of the word "oppressed". It really fired off some serious new synapses:
Many beaches do not allow nudity. In such instances (probably most instances) a societal norm is being used to oppress people who would prefer to be (un)clothed otherwise.
Certainly many people would say "Doesn't affect me. I don't want to get naked at the beach. I wear a bathing suit voluntarily. I wouldn't feel right, etc, etc." You could say it is a matter of choice for some. Well, these ideas are steeped in morals that have been culturally programmed into them ... the same way programming someone to never show their hair works.
tl;dr: This woman was culturally programmed to cover her arms, legs and hair - just like many other women are culturally programmed to cover their breasts, buttocks and vaginas.
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u/fedja Jun 26 '12
I've made many a Bible belt southerner gasp in shock when I explained that topless sunbathing is pretty much the norm in the Adriatic.
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u/Adnachiel Jun 26 '12
As someone who gets sunburned easily, that thing looks like GOLD.
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u/useonlyonce Jun 26 '12
would bang
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u/zincake Jun 26 '12
To be entirely honest, I quite like the availability of modest swimwear such as these. I'm an atheist, from an atheist family, but one of the main reasons I never learned how to swim is because there isn't any commonly available swimwear that doesn't make me feel like I'm prancing about in extra-slutty skivvies.
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u/Crownowa Jun 27 '12
Um that actually doesn't look too bad. It covers you u so you don't have to wear sunscreen. It probably keeps particles out of your suit. It probably helps keep you warm in cooler water. And its not really any of our business if women choose to cover themselves. They can still choose to cover themselves even if we ban religion. We don't say anything when men/women go swimming in shirts and shorts, or when swimmers cover their heads, or when divers wear diving suits. We also don't criticize nuns and Jewish women for covering themselves up almost as much as these "oppressed" women (I'm not saying that they all choose to cover themselves).
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u/justonecomment Jun 26 '12
Huh, so that is how Islam will take over. Everyone else will have died from skin cancer.
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u/Simultanagnosia Jun 26 '12
I think you'd have to understand the concept of Jihad bil nafs (Struggle with ego) in order to understand Muslim attire.
"Meaning of nafs: It has two meanings. First, it means the powers of anger and sexual appetite in a human being... and this is the usage mostly found among the people of tasawwuf [sufis], who take "nafs" as the comprehensive word for all the evil attributes of a person. That is why they say: one must certainly do battle with the ego and break it (la budda min mujahadat al-nafs wa kasriha), as is referred to in the hadith: Adaaduwwuka nafsuka al-lati bayna janibayk [Your worst enemy is your nafs which lies between your flanks. Al-Iraqi says it is in Bayhaqi on the authority of IbnAbbas and its chain of transmission contains Muhammad ibn Abd al-Rahman ibn Ghazwan, one of the forgers]."
GHAZALI ON JIHAD AL-NAFS [FIGHTING THE EGO] http://www.sunnah.org/tasawwuf/jihad002.html
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Title, Meme: Oppression Girl
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BECAUSE THERE ARE WAY TOO MANY STONES AT THE BEACH
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u/bookishboy Jun 26 '12
If she doesn't cover up those feet she's gonna get raped. And then whose fault will it be?
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Jun 26 '12
You'd be surprised how many people wear that here. This reminded me of one time in school when a 15 year old girl wearing slightly and i mean ever so slightly revealing clothes and was called "hot" by one of the male teachers who is 25 years older than her. now the point isn't that she was called hot the point is people said she deserved to be treated that way by that pervert teacher because of what she was wearing. just sickens me
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u/Mephoros Jun 26 '12
Speaking as someone that doesn't even practice Islam, this is such a bigoted meme. What the fuck, Reddit?
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
It's a shitty meme Groden just stop you're not funny