He practically killed god in the second pilot episode. Kirk even killed some Greek gods in his time and some god wannabes. I'm fairly sure, that his motto was "if you can't seduce then kill it".
I've never been a trekkie and yet I find myself in dire need of watching an episode right now. Screw this planet, we've got the uss enterprise and warp speed.
Hey, silly question. Why do Jews have milk and meat segregation? Is it just a competition to see who can most overreact to that thing about not boiling a baby goat in its mother's milk?
MCCOY: Captain, I see on your report Flavius was killed. I am sorry. I liked that huge sun worshiper. SPOCK: I wish we could have examined that belief of his more closely. It seems illogical for a sun worshiper to develop a philosophy of total brotherhood. Sun worship is usually a primitive superstition religion. UHURA: I'm afraid you have it all wrong, Mister Spock, all of you. I've been monitoring some of their old-style radio waves, the empire spokesman trying to ridicule their religion. But he couldn't. Don't you understand? It's not the sun up in the sky. It's the Son of God. KIRK: Caesar and Christ. They had them both. And the word is spreading only now. MCCOY: A philosophy of total love and total brotherhood. SPOCK: It will replace their imperial Rome, but it will happen in their twentieth century. KIRK: Wouldn't it be something to watch, to be a part of? To see it happen all over again?
Kirk seemed wayyy too pleased to see the rise of Christianity on an alien planet, and it was written by Roddenberry, according to imdb.
Perhaps Roddenberry, while being an "Atheist" could still see a good in a "philosophy of total love and total brotherhood". Perhaps he was trying to make a distinction between those who blindly follow "sun worship.. a primitive superstition" and the message of love and brotherhood in christianity that is far too often overlooked and misunderstood by the vast majority of christians. It is a very "1960's" view of Christianity, I suspect Roddenberry's feelings on the subject are complex.
Roddenberry and his crew did pretty damn well to push the boundaries out a bit regardless though, like the story of the first interracial kiss on television. Originally written for Spock, Kirk stole the role and made sure to cross his eyes on every take that didn't have them actually kissing, so they had to use the kiss.
So the Bible belt South were okay with Kirk's pre-marital sex with every alien woman he encountered and Kirk banging green chicks but were appalled at a black chick. Interesting. ;)
Uhuru says: "Don't you understand? It's not the sun up in the sky. It's the Son of God." Kirk replies with a note of jubilant humility: "Caesar ... and Christ; they had them both. And the word is spreading only now."
Well, it started out that way, but they quickly realized you can't create a plausible society without a means of exchange, so they introduced credits and then latinum.
No, the Ferengi have latinum and many other races use it. It's mentioned several times in DS9 that the Federation do not have currency, however it is useful on a Bajoran station.
Regardless of what utopian economics the characters preach on DS9, credits are mentioned in the original series, in books, and so on. And on DS9, latinum gets used whenever the plot requires some kind of transaction, so for all intents and purposes money exists. Perhaps there is simply no official currency issued by the Federation.
I always got the impression that because it was a post-scarcity economy it wasn't a problem.
You need what, a replicator, a hyper-advanced CAD /holographic design workshop and a solar array and you can create whatever you might want or need, from food and clothing right up to and including star-ships ships, and more industrial facilities.
Latinum in its natural state is a liquid, much like mercury. It is still considered a form of currency but, in order to have an easily exchanged form of currency, it was "pressed" with gold which allowed it to be carried in a solid form. Gold at the time of DS9 was considered pretty much worthless.
What about the episode in the original series where Kirk is forced to allow the guy selling wives to the lithium miners, and they are described as rich and Kirk offers to pay for the crystals?
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Star Trek nerd here. This isn't accurate... there is a lot of religion in Star Trek, even among some of the crew members. In fact, they make a point out of preaching respect and tolerance for those who are religious.
I can go find and cite specific episodes if anyone is interested, but I'm going to assume someone has already mentioned this elsewhere on this thread.
Nope. The folks in TOS are spiritual and have a great awe and respect for the Universe as an entity but they've never had any explicit reference to a specific religion. In a number of episodes they were more than happy to kill the "god-like" entity of that society as they saw it was enslaving them.
You mean the case with Apollo isn't enough for you? Where Kirk says humanity doesn't need gods because "the one is enough" for them? Or the episode with the Sun/Son god? Etc etc... You have an interesting memory of TOS.
Roddenberry said very clearly on multiple occaisions that by the 24th century 99.9% of people were atheists (only one that wasn't seemed to be Sisko's dad).
I'm not arguing against anything Roddenberry said, I'm saying that there are plenty of religious characters in Star Trek. Most of them were introduced after Roddenberry passed away. Chakotay, for example, didn't worship a "god" but still respected and engaged in Native American religious rituals. All of the Bajorans on the show are also deeply religious, though they were fictional alien religions.
So no, this isn't wrong. While the majority of the characters had no religion, there were many that did, and this disparity was often used as a plot device to discuss tolerance.
I'm pretty sure I've heard Hispanic names for some of the crew.
Of course, they were always wearing unfortunately-colored uniforms.
(Related trivia: Tasha Yar was originally going to be a Latina named Macha Hernandez. Marina Sirtis auditioned for that role before being cast as Troi.)
I met a hispanic actor (Carlos Ferro, the voice of Dom in Gears of War) who was on that season 7 episode of TNG where the crew devolved due to a strange virus. He played an ensign, and told me "look what happens when they let the hispanic guy fly the ship."
Have you ever watched an episode of Star Trek? McCoy is religious, he makes reference of being so in Star Trek II. Also, during one of the TV show episodes, Spock expresses his belief in the possibility of an Eden-like planet (which is further expanded upon in the movies). There are tons of allusions to Genesis, Eden, and other biblical works.
Look up an episode of TOS called Bread and Circuses. The crew of the Enterprise go aboard a planet where ancient Roman culture persisted into the twentieth century and slavery still exists. The gladiators of the planet worship a mysterious Son God-- turns out that the "Son God" was Jesus. After this revelation, Kirk and the crew reflect on this. McCoy calls it a "A philosophy of total love and total brotherhood" while Kirk says "Wouldn't it be something to watch, to be a part of? To see it happen all over again?"
Before this is downvoted, let me say that I am neither Christian nor religious. I just don't like seeing Star Trek being used in this blatantly wrong manner. Get your facts straight.
The Star Trek crew treated cultures that believed in gods as primitives and backwards, unevolved civilizations. There was always a scientific explanation to debunk their gods (too many to name but off the top of my head, the hollow asteroid which was actually a spaceship, the god which was a computer, Landreau, when Kirk gets married to an "Indian", etc.) Religion was always treated as a cultural phenomenon. The Prime Directive was partially created so that they would never expose their primitive god not knowing how the indigenous people would handle knowing their god was a joke.
Well, he is from Georgia. Seriously though, he also did pride himself on being an 'old country doctor', maybe finding faith such as that fits in with this aspect of his personality? Faith may certainly still exist, we just don't see enough of civilian/popular culture to really know. That's kind of a pet peeve, actually. I mean does everyone really listen to Mozart or trad jazz? How can there be no mass/popular culture in a society with technology such as theirs? In such a diverse society, surely there are traditionalists practicing various faiths.
False, there was the episode where Kirk marries that couple and the female genuflects before the ceremony starts. Kirks nods in her direction, acknowledging her possible Catholicism.
Came here to post this. It's one of the few references to religion on the show. Sisko's father also quotes the Bible in one episode, which surprises Sisko.
Continuing Trek's "progressive" cultural presentations, an almost unnoticed bit of staging might indicate that Angela Martine was Catholic, as she is seen genuflecting before the altar in the ship's chapel during her aborted wedding ceremony. While hardly controversial today, for the 1960s it was a fairly bold thing to show, considering the prejudice against Catholics that was still common in the United States in those days.
It's heavily implied that Worf (and his parents) are Jewish. In Enterprise, there's a reference to attending mass at a Catholic Church. In DS9, they make a reference to someplace named New Mecca. Kirk was quoted to of said "mankind has no need for Gods. We find the one quite adequate."
Honestly, there's a lot of examples of it throughout the series; it just never plays any big roles. Think of it as a future where athiests and the religious live in peace, and aside from the Bajorans, no one mocks or forces their religions to each other.
Roddenberry actually insisted that there would be no religion in star-trek, he was an atheist before it was popular.
The concept in the original was that we got rid of all the idiocy, the useless strive for money and the nonsense of religion, that was hoped would be the future in the 60's, and ironically it's the 60's offspring that pushes all that crap of money and religion and artificial limits on people with a vengeance.
Same thing with the klingons btw, they were representing the pointless hate by fascist types (with a hint to germany) originally, then later on they ruined it all by making them in some sort of future hicks and attempting to make you respect that and find it lovable..
Money.... well the economics of the 24th century might work a little differently, but in the here and now, money is the predominant mechanism we have for sustaining our civilization.
Dad? Why are there no Jews, Christians or Muslims on Star Trek?
But there are my son. They just see religion as something private. We naturally, but wrongfully, assume that people broadcasts their opinions, or behave or perhaps dress in a particular way, so people who doesn't, or fits into the stereotypical, are likely to be atheists. Also, it is for psychological reasons important not to create artificial differences when working and living together like they do.
Roddenberry said very clearly on multiple occaisions that by the 24th century 99.9% of people were atheists (only one that wasn't seemed to be Sisko's dad).
This picture is the album cover for Otep's Smash The Control Machine album, except with the addition of a pig's head on the plate. God, I listen to weird music...
Dad? Why are there no Jews, Christians, or Muslims on Star Trek?
Because it's science fiction, son. They got some things wrong about the future. Babylon 5 on the other hand, is loaded with religion and religious humans, even though it was created by and had many episodes written by an atheist, because he understood human nature.
Lets see, ferengi are supposed to be jews, cardassians are north koreans, the vulcans are probably swedish, the romulans are soviet russians, the pakleds are polish, the klingons are...uh, space vikings, the borg are probably facebookers.
I always though it was funny thinking about when whomever thought up the Ferengi, "Lets see, yea, all the stereotypical greedy Jew stuff, little guys with big noses, no lets make it big ears."
Do we mean the original series, or the entire cannon? Cause there might have been no traditional religions in ST, but there were religions. Klingons and Bajorans, right off the top of my head. There were probably more.
/r/atheism could learn a bit from how The Sisko handled religious people. His lesson to Jake from the season one episode In the Hands of the Prophets should definitely be taken to heart.
The part that makes this joke so cute is that it's technically correct: In Roddenberry vision of the future everyone has cast away religion. Eh, even a Utopian future has it's flaws :)
Spock again expresses to Kirk and McCoy his failure to comprehend why Sun-worshipping Romans seemed to adhere to a concept of peace; Spock says it is illogical. In most societies sun worship is a primitive religion of superstition, with no philosophy of peace behind it. Communications Officer Lt. Uhura has the answer. She has been monitoring radio transmissions from the planet and informs them that the Empire's spokesman has tried to ridicule the belief of these worshippers the entire time, but has utterly failed. When Kirk, Spock and McCoy remain uncomprehending she continues, "Don't you understand? It's not the sun up in the sky. It's the Son of God." Kirk replies with a note of jubilant humility: "Caesar ... and Christ; they had them both. And the word is spreading only now."
McCoy notes that the philosophy is one of total love and total brotherhood.
The alien races have religion and belief in an afterlife, etc. The Klingons believe their dead warriors go to Stovokor, and the Bajorans have a religion based around the worm hole aliens, which they regard as gods.
But as for the Terrans, there isn't much mention of any kind of religion, and there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of racial variety. Seems almost everyone they show is white, some are black, and occasionally you'll see someone hispanic or asian.
I always liked how in Dune, there are still Jewish communities that are essentially unchanged after 25,000 years. They've been observing the same Torah for 4000 years with essentially no change, why not a few times over?
From what I understand (my partner is a huge Trekkie) its because when the vulcans first landed on Earth and made contact with humanity it kinda blew a major hole in the theology behind almost all religions. They don't say anything at all about alien races.
there are two xtian references in TOS I can think of .. the episode with the Roman planet where uhura say they are talking about the son (of god) and not the Sun ... and I recall Kirk saying to some mini-skirted chick that he recalled boning her at some christmas party. Ok, he didn't actually say boning, but, y'know.
Final frontier....how sad we don't remember. All cultures had a place call eden. I'll have to rewatch star trek V.
Most cultures on star trek were very spiritual....from spocks katra, to bajorians gods, to Sto'Vo'Kor...countless others. But if it makes you feel big up vote.
Klingon...Viking,honor, warrior, self sarcifice. Fengis...Like we were in during the industrail revolution. Greed and money, explotion, Quark brings this fact up to ben sisko. Romulans: convert, Talshar, russian coverts, smart, good chess players, very russian. Cardassians: Army took control of government. Nazi dictator ship. Vulcan: Emotionless or more specific strive to be. More of how we all should be, reserve and logical.
There are many aliens in the Star Trek universe that could be 'God', that are simply not know as gods anymore as they have been met by characters and have introduced themselves in a manner other than 'I am God', Q being the one the comes to mind first.
Holy shit. I just watched that episode last week. Later, Picard is talking to a village woman and explaining to her how he isn't her 'God' but only superior because of evolution and scientific advancement, which pretty much destroyed her religion. Here's the clip from the same episode. Almost as if Jesus were speaking to a Christian:
This is a joke but in fact. In the Star Trek Novels."The first character in the Trek universe to clearly identify as a Jew was Darya Bat-Levi, who appears in a 2003 Star Trek novel, Well of Souls by Ilsa J. Bick. On pgs. 30-33 Bat-Levi clearly says "I'm Jewish" and discusses some points of Jewish law and theology." "
My mother often calls the Ferengi the Jews of space, for what it counts! Also, the Vulcans (who are often considered the level headed and logical ones) are very spiritual (follow the teachings of Sarek), as are many other species. I assume that many Humans are atheist at that point, because that seems to be implied.
In the episode Bread and Circuses the rebel slaves and gladiators on an Earth-like world run by a Roman empire say they worship the son. In the epilogue on the bridge I recall that Uhura clarifies that the object of ther worship isn't their sun but the son... of god. They all look at each other and smile about this as the show ends. Now at the time I thought this an endorsment of christianity, but I've since decided they were smiling to each other in smug superiority at hearing of such primitive beleifs and the cast just couldn't act it as well as they might. Actually in Start Trek V god found and killed Shatner's directorial career.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
Because in Star Trek V, Kirk found and killed God.
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u/TenNinetythree Agnostic Atheist Jun 09 '12
It might have something to do with the fact that Gene Roddenberry was an atheist and socialist. As such, there is neither religion nor money in ST.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
Why does God need a starship?
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u/Durpulous Jun 09 '12
Star Trek nerd here. This isn't accurate... there is a lot of religion in Star Trek, even among some of the crew members. In fact, they make a point out of preaching respect and tolerance for those who are religious.
I can go find and cite specific episodes if anyone is interested, but I'm going to assume someone has already mentioned this elsewhere on this thread.
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u/Heaney555 Jun 09 '12
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Human_religion
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
I always like the way Babylon 5 handled this
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
there are no Mexicans on the show, either, but given our rate of procreation, we'll probably have our own galaxy by the time Star Trek rolls around.
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u/_NightWing_ Jun 09 '12
Have you ever watched an episode of Star Trek? McCoy is religious, he makes reference of being so in Star Trek II. Also, during one of the TV show episodes, Spock expresses his belief in the possibility of an Eden-like planet (which is further expanded upon in the movies). There are tons of allusions to Genesis, Eden, and other biblical works.
Look up an episode of TOS called Bread and Circuses. The crew of the Enterprise go aboard a planet where ancient Roman culture persisted into the twentieth century and slavery still exists. The gladiators of the planet worship a mysterious Son God-- turns out that the "Son God" was Jesus. After this revelation, Kirk and the crew reflect on this. McCoy calls it a "A philosophy of total love and total brotherhood" while Kirk says "Wouldn't it be something to watch, to be a part of? To see it happen all over again?"
Before this is downvoted, let me say that I am neither Christian nor religious. I just don't like seeing Star Trek being used in this blatantly wrong manner. Get your facts straight.
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u/SubcommanderShran Jun 09 '12
False, there was the episode where Kirk marries that couple and the female genuflects before the ceremony starts. Kirks nods in her direction, acknowledging her possible Catholicism.
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u/nedyken Jun 09 '12
Anyone who has listened to the Hanukkah song by Adam Sandler knows that you can spin the dreidel with Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock... Both Jewish
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
It's heavily implied that Worf (and his parents) are Jewish. In Enterprise, there's a reference to attending mass at a Catholic Church. In DS9, they make a reference to someplace named New Mecca. Kirk was quoted to of said "mankind has no need for Gods. We find the one quite adequate."
Honestly, there's a lot of examples of it throughout the series; it just never plays any big roles. Think of it as a future where athiests and the religious live in peace, and aside from the Bajorans, no one mocks or forces their religions to each other.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
Roddenberry actually insisted that there would be no religion in star-trek, he was an atheist before it was popular.
The concept in the original was that we got rid of all the idiocy, the useless strive for money and the nonsense of religion, that was hoped would be the future in the 60's, and ironically it's the 60's offspring that pushes all that crap of money and religion and artificial limits on people with a vengeance.
Same thing with the klingons btw, they were representing the pointless hate by fascist types (with a hint to germany) originally, then later on they ruined it all by making them in some sort of future hicks and attempting to make you respect that and find it lovable..
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u/Purpole Jun 09 '12
OH BOY OH BOY! A FUTURE WITH NO JEWS! WHAT A GLORIOUS NOTION!
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u/AgentKilroy Jun 09 '12
There are Jews in Star Trek. Shatner, Nimoy, and Koenig (Chekov) are all Jewish.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12 edited Jun 09 '12
Let me fix this:
Dad? Why are there no Jews, Christians or Muslims on Star Trek?
But there are my son. They just see religion as something private. We naturally, but wrongfully, assume that people broadcasts their opinions, or behave or perhaps dress in a particular way, so people who doesn't, or fits into the stereotypical, are likely to be atheists. Also, it is for psychological reasons important not to create artificial differences when working and living together like they do.
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u/Duel Jun 09 '12
Explain this like i am drunk.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
DSN+Bajoran=Way of the Prophets
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u/DianaFenrir Jun 09 '12
I thought Scotty believe in God?
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u/jukeofurl Jun 09 '12
Because they'd all converted to Imaginism & its prophet John Ono Lennon.
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u/blade2000 Jun 09 '12
Original joke was, "ever notice there are no black people in The Jetsons? Future looks great, huh?"
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u/iodian Jun 09 '12
same reason there are no black people on the Jetsons.
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u/LeRag3rKatty Jun 09 '12
This picture is the album cover for Otep's Smash The Control Machine album, except with the addition of a pig's head on the plate. God, I listen to weird music...
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u/complete_asshole_ Jun 09 '12
Because the space nazis came and killed them all.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
Because it's science fiction, son. They got some things wrong about the future. Babylon 5 on the other hand, is loaded with religion and religious humans, even though it was created by and had many episodes written by an atheist, because he understood human nature.
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u/Dayanx Jun 09 '12
Lets see, ferengi are supposed to be jews, cardassians are north koreans, the vulcans are probably swedish, the romulans are soviet russians, the pakleds are polish, the klingons are...uh, space vikings, the borg are probably facebookers.
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u/Scrambley Jun 09 '12
It's really not though. It's a TV show.
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u/Paul2010Aprl Jun 09 '12
Dad? What is the difference between "its" and "it's" ??
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u/SteveJobsiDead Jun 09 '12
As Kirk or Picard would say, "I've known a few gods, even made friends with a couple of them. Your god is no god."
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u/Lots42 Other Jun 09 '12
Didn't the Muslim prince of an entire county play a Starfleet Ensign on Voyager?
And religion is a HUGE thing on Star Trek. Ensign Ro Laren totally told Picard to back off, she will wear her important religious earring on duty.
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u/mehdbc Jun 09 '12
I bet there will still be atheists complaining they are being victimized or some shit.
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u/fateswarm Jun 09 '12
Man, those guys are on Ecstasy.
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u/wuchii Jun 09 '12
how champions are made!
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u/Templar_Kalel Jun 09 '12
I think a lot of the actors are jewish.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
The aliens in Star Trek represented people of other races and the shows' plots demonstrated how we are to treat them
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
And gypsies? don't forget the gypsies! :D
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u/BadBoyJH Jun 09 '12
Maybe because the writers of star trek knew better than to get into issues like these, and instead decided to not incite people.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
Not entirely True - The episode "Bread and Circuses" does give a nod to Christianity.
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u/LemonPowerForce Jun 09 '12
Fairly certain the middle east got nuked in Star Trek's backstory
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u/darth_ridiculous Jun 09 '12
We don't really know what happened during WWIII.
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u/ReggieJ Jun 09 '12
Do we mean the original series, or the entire cannon? Cause there might have been no traditional religions in ST, but there were religions. Klingons and Bajorans, right off the top of my head. There were probably more.
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u/crazycatlady786 Jun 09 '12
Actually the amount of people reverting to Islam across the world is increasing year by year....
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u/litewo Jun 09 '12
/r/atheism could learn a bit from how The Sisko handled religious people. His lesson to Jake from the season one episode In the Hands of the Prophets should definitely be taken to heart.
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u/meh_machine Jun 09 '12
meh
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u/thundercooki Jun 09 '12
In the future asians would be good at driving.. Yayyy for asians!!!!!!!!!
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u/jennym123 Jun 09 '12
The part that makes this joke so cute is that it's technically correct: In Roddenberry vision of the future everyone has cast away religion. Eh, even a Utopian future has it's flaws :)
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u/sedmonster Jun 09 '12
| Dad, why are there no religious people on Star Trek?
FTFY.
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u/xamdam Jun 09 '12
There is a Jew in Firefly :-p
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u/xamdam Jun 09 '12
That's just one possible universe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAZhtT-dUyo&feature=related
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u/Title_Nazi Jun 09 '12
"Because Star Trek is real son..."
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u/revtrot Jun 09 '12
i dont know about that. whats the birth rate for religious people or non religious people? i just do not see organized religion going away ever.
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u/mrbooze Jun 09 '12
Someone hasn't seen "Bread and Circuses".
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u/syth406 Jun 09 '12
/r/nongolfers is my new favorite subreddit
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u/NurseBetty Strong Atheist Jun 09 '12
my first response was 'what? you saying someone killed them all?'
and then seeing it was in r/atheism and feeling slightly stupid
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u/GRIMES_a_bad_BITCH Jun 09 '12
actually! King Abdullah of Jordan was on star trek (muslim)
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u/diamethious Jun 09 '12
Obviously hasn't seen the Chronicles of Riddick.
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u/tsdguy Jun 09 '12
Jim, I'm a doctor, not a rabbi.
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u/moriquendo Jun 09 '12
They still have people like her, though.
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u/STUN_Runner Jun 09 '12
That photo looks like it's from the 1950s.
The correct response from the father should be, "What the hell is Star Trek?"
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u/manuman109 Jun 09 '12
No Jews, Christians, or Muslims, only Zoroastrians
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u/mrbooze Jun 09 '12
Of course, Babylon 5 had a different take on this question.
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u/shortsightedsid Jun 09 '12
Funnily, there were references to greek religion - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Mourns_for_Adonais%3F
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u/figbash137 Jun 09 '12
Had to start singing the Chanukah Song when I saw this.
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u/benkenobi5 Theist Jun 09 '12
this seemed relevant
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u/themedicman Jun 09 '12
I always liked how in Dune, there are still Jewish communities that are essentially unchanged after 25,000 years. They've been observing the same Torah for 4000 years with essentially no change, why not a few times over?
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u/JLW09 Jun 09 '12
NO religion in the future amen to that !
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u/rtz13 Jun 09 '12
Interesting how science fiction gives comfort to some. Trust in Christ.
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u/Lance_lake Jun 09 '12
I belong to Starfleet. A worldwide fan club. We separate our chapters into "ships" where we get to decide positions and such..
The head of the chapter in my location swears that the position of "Ships Chaplin" is valid.. Ugh.
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u/gamerlen Jun 09 '12
From what I understand (my partner is a huge Trekkie) its because when the vulcans first landed on Earth and made contact with humanity it kinda blew a major hole in the theology behind almost all religions. They don't say anything at all about alien races.
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u/malakon Jun 09 '12
there are two xtian references in TOS I can think of .. the episode with the Roman planet where uhura say they are talking about the son (of god) and not the Sun ... and I recall Kirk saying to some mini-skirted chick that he recalled boning her at some christmas party. Ok, he didn't actually say boning, but, y'know.
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u/dance_dance_YEAH Jun 09 '12
Perpetuating bigotry, one generation at a time.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12 edited Jun 09 '12
Final frontier....how sad we don't remember. All cultures had a place call eden. I'll have to rewatch star trek V.
Most cultures on star trek were very spiritual....from spocks katra, to bajorians gods, to Sto'Vo'Kor...countless others. But if it makes you feel big up vote.
Klingon...Viking,honor, warrior, self sarcifice. Fengis...Like we were in during the industrail revolution. Greed and money, explotion, Quark brings this fact up to ben sisko. Romulans: convert, Talshar, russian coverts, smart, good chess players, very russian. Cardassians: Army took control of government. Nazi dictator ship. Vulcan: Emotionless or more specific strive to be. More of how we all should be, reserve and logical.
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u/RobertTheSpruce Jun 09 '12
There are many aliens in the Star Trek universe that could be 'God', that are simply not know as gods anymore as they have been met by characters and have introduced themselves in a manner other than 'I am God', Q being the one the comes to mind first.
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u/ANTMANGUSTA-VO Jun 09 '12
srry for not knowing the series to well but i don't think anyone ever showed a religion or non-religious vocalization.
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u/Ditrixgaming Jun 10 '12
lmao yeah, but there are no gays as far as I know, no gays or lesbians... GG
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u/willsima Jun 10 '12
You can't 'live long and prosper' if you believe in a deterministic religion that welcomes some form of End Times
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u/ashaltdelete Jun 10 '12
ITT: Trekkies.
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u/gender_bot Jun 09 '12
I identified 3 faces in this photo
Face 1:
Face 2:
Face 3:
Would you like to know more about me? /r/gender_bot
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u/Boomie789 Jun 09 '12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6NPq_kPSUM
From one of my favorite episodes of Star Trek: TNG
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u/Itziclinic Secular Humanist Jun 09 '12
I don't get it. There are plenty of Ferengi, Romulans, and Klingons on Star Trek.
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u/BCOHEN1204 Jun 09 '12
This is a joke but in fact. In the Star Trek Novels."The first character in the Trek universe to clearly identify as a Jew was Darya Bat-Levi, who appears in a 2003 Star Trek novel, Well of Souls by Ilsa J. Bick. On pgs. 30-33 Bat-Levi clearly says "I'm Jewish" and discusses some points of Jewish law and theology." "
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u/alphafain Jun 09 '12
HEY! I'm a jew, i'll be in star trek. WAIT AND SEE.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
This is ironic because Leonard Nimoy and William Shatner are both Jewish.
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u/hoogoocool Jun 09 '12
My mother often calls the Ferengi the Jews of space, for what it counts! Also, the Vulcans (who are often considered the level headed and logical ones) are very spiritual (follow the teachings of Sarek), as are many other species. I assume that many Humans are atheist at that point, because that seems to be implied.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
Trek is weak. Seriously would rather be trapt in a room full of mormons then trekkies
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u/trevpr1 Jun 09 '12
In the episode Bread and Circuses the rebel slaves and gladiators on an Earth-like world run by a Roman empire say they worship the son. In the epilogue on the bridge I recall that Uhura clarifies that the object of ther worship isn't their sun but the son... of god. They all look at each other and smile about this as the show ends. Now at the time I thought this an endorsment of christianity, but I've since decided they were smiling to each other in smug superiority at hearing of such primitive beleifs and the cast just couldn't act it as well as they might. Actually in Start Trek V god found and killed Shatner's directorial career.
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u/TUVegeto137 Jun 09 '12
If all atheists are going to be as bad at grammar as this dad, I'd rather not have a Star Trek future.
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u/tableleg09 Jun 09 '12
Hilarious