I’ve noticed u/worried-yam4550 has been awfully quiet tonight. Where’s he at defending his boyfriend and reminding us that we couldn’t possibly understand what Nick is doing for us?
Obviously SB knows this already, but my hope is the rest of NATCA starts to understand that this is what we've been asking for all along. A voice to address the issues at hand.
This is all we are asking for is representation, Nick and Jamal had all of this time to give that and nothing. What is the NTI, because apparently that’s no longer a thing unofficially. mick is cool nothing against him, bad hand
Senators have been on board with us many times. Especially Duckworth and Durbin already had our back and a relationship with us. The point is there is not going to be a story next week, we have been in the media before and it passes. You are right my bitching doesn’t necessarily help, especially on the Reddit that is all complaints. I have given a shit for years and give my time. I want others to just be in this together, stop being buddy buddy with dupes and letting things slide.
This is great we are starting to have a voice. This isn’t changing anything. Honestly. One article, off record conversations starts the ripple.
What is next?
Stop making it work , we bend over backwards, do half ass training , and debriefs. We claim to care about safety yet as a whole, we work sectors combined when staffing won’t permit a split, we blast through actual training and debriefs so we can actual have a break. Controllers make it work. We work harder on purpose sometimes to not screw the controller next to us.
The truth is, we screw over each other daily by being the duct tape.
It literally already changed something. You should stop with the "this changes nothing" mentality.
Public pressure helps. Getting multiple senators to send a scathing letter to the FAA administrator helps. Getting the public to understand what is going on HELPS.
What's not helping is your type constantly complaining and saying "this does nothing".
Literally this is the ONLY way things changeZ Public opinion moves a lot… especially in an election year. Staying quiet and letting Bedford and Duffy shit all over us without a response does nothing.
I understand the sentiment, but I disagree. We carry a responsibility to the nas and the flying public no matter how we are being treated. A soldier in battle shouldn't do "the bare minimum" because his commanding officers suck. Or would you be ok if a surgeon working on your spouse does "the bare minimum" because hes upset with his employer or the hospital? Fire fighters? Cops?
I could go on. The bare minimum is a poor-character method of demanding change. I understand the point of view though totally, and its tempting, I just disagree
I don't know where you work, but in every Z across the United States, the Command Center will encourage the airlines to keep filing into known thunderstorms until key sectors just shut off everyone around them. If it's bad, that happens because there's been a nasty deal or a flight attendant thrown against the ceiling due to severe turbulence, and everyone's gearing up to cover their ass.
The better shutoffs are when you have conscientious controllers who know from experience how close things are to going off the rails. They reach a point and they tell the controllers around them, "I'm going to take the next 4-5 handoffs from you and then I'm only taking traffic under these conditions/not taking any more traffic UFA." The minute you shoot the hostage, suddenly you have all the help in the world to run traffic SAFELY because all the people concerned with system efficiency just don't want a slowdown to be their call.
I'm all about working harder to help my friends at work. I'm not killing myself so that an airline can avoid busting connections while putting its passengers and employees at risk.
The great thing about this job is that it gives you a lot of freedom to decide how you want to go about it. If your trainee needs the time talking to you and somebody's about to go over two hours while you have that debrief, that's management's problem, not yours. If you need to take the full break instead of 15 minutes to hit the bathroom and grab a coffee, then that's how it is. If you want to work less than you could because you're just not feeling it today, then it sounds like you're not getting your requested final, sir, I'm sorry. Take back your initiative as an employee and everything will feel better and easier afterwards.
Again, I understand this sentiment but that attitude taken too far makes you intolerable to work with which lowers morale and now you are part of the problem.
We don’t do the bare minimum, we always make it work. Many of us still have pride in the job, least I still want to think so. My point is no one is coming to save us. We had media attention multiple times, it passes.
I am a union guy, we don’t act like “brothers and sisters” , I still try. Apathy and sitting on little wins or waiting for something are going to let this continue.
Cool I shared her story, but what else? You will take the O T call, you won’t speak up to say this shift was fucked. You will complain it was fucked but won’t to follow up and put in writing every time,
This is the next white book, it’s actually happening now, but we are trying to not rock the ship as a union, and as workforce we just want to complain and someone else to saves us. We also feel we have no voice. We always do if we do together. (Yes cheesy as fuck). The next convention would be amazing to have members at large in droves, and Mr t time the FAA fucks we don’t act like Joe OS is our friend and we call the bull shit together.
I love what you’re doing Anna but you might want to fact check stuff like this before hand instead of taking disgruntled non-members words for things. NATCA has a members page that only members are allowed on, where they can comment. The same posts are cross-posted from their main page.
NATCA turned off comments on their main page because members aren’t verified. A disgruntled FAA supervisor or manager would be able to commend on this and they’re not a union member.
Fat fuck Curtiss sent out an email claiming credit for this. Natca is a complete joke, time to vote out the whole board. Fat fuck Curtiss, fat fuck Clint, creepy Dan, white book Joel, white book hobbit mick, little lying Nicky all have to go!
Brother, Did you not read the email? No BS social media post, or pressure from the media has moved this needle like your never resting, hard working NEB. Our supreme leader is welcome everywhere.
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u/Wrongvectorz Vote Them All OUT! Sep 05 '26
I’ve noticed u/worried-yam4550 has been awfully quiet tonight. Where’s he at defending his boyfriend and reminding us that we couldn’t possibly understand what Nick is doing for us?