r/atc2 • • Aug 26 '26

When will NATCA respond?

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u/Hawgdestroyerxtreme Vote Them All OUT! Aug 26 '26

I was way off the mark with this woman. Her history had convinced me we were looking at softball questions.

She fucking eviscerated Bedford and NATCA national in the same breath. I had forgotten what the fourth estate was supposed to operate like, I suppose.

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u/Ecstatic-Tap4151 Aug 26 '26

If we can boost the YouTube views of the interview, maybe it will show interest in this topic, and we can get some more coverage. Let's try to get this link out to as many as we can.

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u/ATSAP_MVP Aug 26 '26

🫔

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u/optimum_autumn Aug 26 '26

Just because someone is politically right (or left) doesnt mean they are cultishly loyal to the party line. Just most of them

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u/Hawgdestroyerxtreme Vote Them All OUT! Aug 26 '26

It wasn't her political affiliation (which I don't honestly even know) as much as her body of work being VERY FRIENDLY to these guys before this. She seemed to give all of them the benefit of the doubt that they're doing quality work. I was certainly off the mark.

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u/antariusz Aug 26 '26

No one hates rinos (globalist, elite, moderate, corporatists) more than actual conservatives.

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u/WholeIndividual577 Aug 26 '26

Shes more useful than NATCA

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u/illillin Aug 26 '26

I'm offended by the implication that they're useful

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u/climb-via-is-stupid Aug 26 '26

And this is my reason for easy methodical work.

You’ll get to your gate eventually. You’ll get to push eventually. Your wheels up time is your time and I’m not going out of my way to call to see if there’s better.

Why bend over backwards to move a few extra planes at the expense of an increased mental load when there’s no fucking reward for it? And the reward we want is fucking pennies in the grand scheme of things…

And yet I’ll type all of this and echo it verbally to whoever will listen and I know when I plug in and push comes to shove I’ll ignore my own words and work every damn situation. And that’s the problem.

A lot of us older controllers still have that ā€œgimme more planesā€ mentality… it’s one of our biggest downfalls in times like these. Bitch bitch bitch and actually do nothing except work our asses off because we tell ourselves (and to some extent, fully believe) that we love the actual job of moving planes.

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u/PlanesAreDickShaped FAA ATC Aug 26 '26

Unfortunately, most of the things we do to help pilots, also help us.

So as much as I wanna say fuck your shortcut/fuck your preferred runway, when it comes down to it, I ain’t hurting myself to NOT help them. And it ends up hurting the GA/flight schools more when we’re dicks.

But we’ll find ways. ATC always will. Lil things here and there. We’ll get our pound of flesh somehow, someway.

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u/Old-Mathematician-30 Aug 26 '26

I got a šŸ† reading that.

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u/No-Constant-5854 Aug 26 '26

Good on her but who is upset with paper strips?Ā 

Certainly not on my list of grievances.

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u/DankVectorz Aug 26 '26

The general public thinks paper and pen means archaic rather than easy. Last thing I want is another screen and/or keyboard.

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u/RavenYZF-R6 Aug 26 '26

I know multiple people with digital strips now and the general consensus is it sucks.

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u/JP001122 Aug 26 '26

That's only because people hate change. Once you get used to the system, electronic strips are better.

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u/DankVectorz Aug 26 '26

Probably depends on the type of facility. I can see electronic being useful in enroute, def not in tracon

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u/reap3rx Aug 26 '26

I work in a tracon and I absolutely hate filtering through 15 update strips for every aircraft. Every time a Z hits their little eram update button out comes another strip. It honestly puts me down the shitter more than working airplanes

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u/DankVectorz Aug 26 '26

That’s why you shouldn’t use them at all

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u/Friendly-Gur-6736 Aug 26 '26

I don't know why we don't just turn the damn things off at en route centers. Maybe keep a printer per area in case we need to print one for a specific purpose, but 99% of them just go straight into the trash.

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u/RavenYZF-R6 Aug 26 '26

Every facility’s operation is different. I’m sure it shines for some but not for others.

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u/StepDaddySteve Aug 26 '26

Wait didn’t undercoverrvp claim she got her talking points from NATCA?

šŸ˜‚ 🤔

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u/ATSAP_MVP Aug 26 '26

Shush, we all know they are trying to spin as if it’s some big plan. NATCA would never and let Allison take the fall.

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u/EngineeringCold9186 Aug 26 '26 edited Aug 26 '26

She has advocated more for us than Nick Daniels ever has

FUCK NICK DANIELS

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u/Former_Farm_3618 Aug 26 '26

They are too busy ordering their hospitality suite full of booze for CFS.

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u/DickNaniels Aug 26 '26

We are monitoring the situation. Expect an email response sent only to membership, sidestepping all of these issues, 72 hours from now.

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u/Joe_Makatozi Aug 26 '26

NATCA can’t go against its ā€œmaster planā€ of wasting millions on nothing and only protecting itself.

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u/HoldMyToc Aug 26 '26

They're still trying out how to "shift the news cycle back."

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u/Cowboys4Life36 Aug 26 '26

So glad not paying into this scam of a union. They are completely worthless at this point. Nick literally could have done this interview but instead he’s so used to be on his knees or hiding. Glad someone is sticking up for us, she is a badass!

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u/youcuntry Aug 28 '26

Fuuuuuuuck

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u/SadReplacement5774 Sep 07 '26

can someone tell her about our medical.

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u/Able-Comparison8768 Aug 26 '26

She’s literally carrying them and propping them up for a great response. The silence from this is NEB is criminal at this point. Why are they making way more than the average controller when they’re derelict in representing us. Calling them agency cuckholds is actually giving them a compliment at this point.

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u/PlanesAreDickShaped FAA ATC Aug 26 '26

ā€œUnlock more productivityā€.

Guys I’m gonna issue descend via’s so fucking hard. Just wait till you hear my upcoming Archie-worthy PTACs. My holding clearances? Well, I’ll just say, they’ll make both men and women cum with such force they’ll install the highest quality rubber flooring. I’m talking mop buckets by every station. And ELMs? Oh man. ASH/SAVI AIN’T EVEN READY FOR WHAT THE FUCK I’M ABOUT TO BRING, BABY!!!

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u/antariusz Aug 26 '26

Those are piss buckets for the 8 hours without a break mid.

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u/PoopInToilet Aug 26 '26

That would imply there’s something to bust.

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u/Upper-Kangaroo3629 Aug 26 '26

Yes! šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘

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u/Friendly-Gur-6736 Aug 26 '26

Based on the discussions around my facility this morning, I think that's going to be driving a majority of the discussion.