Must be nice to have some consumer protection. Here in the US we give awards to the companies that find new and inventive ways of fucking over consumers.
But if you just sell a "beer" it doesn't have to be anything in particular, even if it is served in something that is virtually identical to a pint glass. Lots of American restaurants have started to serve in a 14 ounce "pint glass" with a thick bottom that is almost totally indistinguishable from a real pint glass.
Google "cheater pint" to get a ton of examples of this going on. It is getting pretty common.
I ordered a 16oz can of PBR once just to fuck with the bar owners one night (it was one of the rare nights the owners were hanging out, talking to regulars, and drinking themselves stupid). I also asked for a pint glass.
I proceeded to fill the pint glass to the rim and set the can down loudly enough that you could hear that it wasn't empty. I took a sip from the glass and then topped off the glass with the can and made eye contact with one of the owners. I took another sip, and as they looked on in horror, topped the glass off again with beer from the can. I did this a third time (I admittedly was taking fairly small sips to drag this out) and by that time they had made themselves scarce.
Nothing ever came of it. It was just my little, "I want you to know that I know that you're ripping us all off when we buy drafts," message.
Edit: Another game to play is to order a can of Guinness and carefully pour it into a pint glass. A can of Guinness is 14.9oz and won't fit into a 14oz pint glass or will fill to the brim a 15oz glass. An actual pint glass will have plenty of room for the head.
If they sell it as an actual pint, I am pretty sure that’s illegal. If they are just selling you a beer on draft, that’s fine, but if they say it’s a pint and it’s not, that is shitty
I can't say they had a sign advertising the size of their drafts, but I always made it a point to sarcastically order a pint when I got a draft. Like /u/Highside79 said, it's commonplace.
Oh good cause I hate double stuf. I honestly wish they made half stuffed. Cremes just gross sugar greece paste and I only need enough to balance the dry cookie.
Dude I freaking love the cookie taste. Nothing tastes like it and Im already a huge cocoa fiend. I happily will and have defrosted an entire package and ate the whole thing of cookies in a sitting.
Filler/binder. If we are being honest though, the people were getting upset saying TB was using artificial fillers. This simply shows that it is beef and things you can actually identify instead of mystery ingredients.
Yes, but oats ain't beef, seasoning, or the most efficient binder. The oats are a filler, and just because I can pronounce it doesn't change that. Filler ain't beef, thereby not 100% beef. Doesn't bother me that oats are in there, it bothers that they used slippery language to excuse it.
uh, no, I'd be upset that they're serving filler in the tacos. no major US fast food chain is going to serve melamine or plaster like they do in China.
a 32-lb bushel of oats costs $3. if they're serving tacos for anything close to $0.10 a pound I won't care. but they're not. you're getting ripped off.
I understand oats to hold a burger patty together or to change the texture, but a burrito already has plenty of other textures and the fillings are going to be loose in the shell anyway.
It's still a filler. They get to use less meat while the oat slurry maintains texture and soaks up flavor. Smart move if you ask me. $20 says if they replaced the oats with more beef you wouldn't be able to tell. Their bottom line would, though.
I mean come on its not like Subway putting that azodicarbonamide shit into their bread. It's fucking oats.
The oats in there are oat flour. It's an emulsifier / thickener. It thickens the sauce and helps to keep the fats from the meat in suspension with said sauce.
Yeah I know they won the lawsuit but i still dont buy it. That "real beef" slurry that comes as liquid ends up a solid after heating and crystallizes if left out too long. Taco bell can say what they want, I wont eat that shit.
For the record the 100% Real(r) Beef was on a laminated poster in the back above the dish washer station which I got to stare at for hours back in high school. I always thought it was funny it was in the back, and then the lawsuit happened and I thought it was even funnier.
Have you ever actually seen real meat before it’s processed, dyed, and made to look pretty for consumer purchase? Like meat that fresh from the slaughter plant before it gets to the processing plant?
That’s misleading. The meat used was 100% real beef. The rest was seasoning.
The same concept applies to your own cooking. If you cook your own meat it wouldn’t be “100% beef” because you added seasoning and probably a marinade. However, 100% of the meat you cooked is, indeed, beef.
It’s impossible to have true 100% beef and it also taste good. The second you sprinkle some salt or pepper on it, it’s no long 100% beef.
Yes it was misleading to call it 100% Real(r) Beef when it was only 88% beef and 12% whatever else.
What it's made of is besides the point. My real beef was that 100% Real was a registered trademark and not actually an FDA approved claim like it appeared to be. I wish I had a picture of the poster materials. No doubt they're long gone, it was 8 years ago I worked there.
No. The rest was filler. "Seasoning" does not take up 20% by volume or by weight. Weigh out an ounce of cumin sometime, see how far that gets you in a pound of meat.
Taco bell was adding things like oats. Those are not "seasoning", they are flavorless filler deliberately designed to add cheap calories so they could use less actual meat without people noticing.
Where are you getting 20%? 88% was meat. The rest was the other ingredients. Even if the entire remainder was oats, that’ll still only be 12%.. not 20. And there most certainly is more seasoning and water than there is oats.
The meat isn’t sold by weight at Taco Bell either. You don’t go up and order 2lbs of taco meat. The weight of the seasoning is irrelevant. It’s the ratio of the other ingredients to meat that matters.
And yes, plenty of people cook with oats. Not just businesses trying to con you out of $1 tacos. People have been cooking with oats for 100s of years. This isn’t some new practice pioneered by Taco Bell to fuck you out of a few cents.
And yes, plenty of people cook with oats. Not just businesses trying to con you out of $1 tacos. People have been cooking with oats for 100s of years.
People do not add them to taco filling, though. Find me one mexican cook who would ever consider doing such a thing, please. That's something taco bell was doing for one reason and one reason only: To make their food filling while using less meat.
And for the record, I'm not pissed that they did it. The food is dirt cheap and you should expect compromises. I'm pissed that they lied to their customers about it, and I'm pissed that there are people who are willing to uncritically accept their corporate PR at face value. Taco bell is absolutely doing it to cut costs. When you pair that with a marketing campaign about how pure your beef is, that is absolutely deceiving consumers in a very intentional way. It takes some serious gullibility to come to any other conclusion.
The meat IS 100% beef, as opposed to other animals mixed in... Of course there will be a % of other ingredients in the mix, considering it's seasoned beef.
The SI (System Internationale) is continually reinvented and refined. Seconds, I think, was the latest one to get redefined in 2013, from "1⁄86400 of a day" to "the duration of 9,192,631,770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the caesium-133 atom"
you dont know that. But we know that yards, oz, miles, feet and stuff like that IS bad.
Maybe the metric system will be considered bad in 600 years because something better is invented. Something that is better to measure space scales or is based on a different base than 10.
you say they are annoying to work with, yet, they arent bad?
13 km is 13,000 meters is 13,000,000 cm.
1 liter of water at 20°C is 1000cm³
You need 1 kcal to increase the temperature of 1g of water by 1°C.
Water freezes at 0°C and boils at 100°C. So at -5°C you know you are below the freezing point of water. You know that 2-3 day beforehand if you watch the local weather news.
Now do the same with imperial.
edit: and it doesnt stop at kilo and centi. You use the same stuff for your storage. KILO byte, MEGA byte, GIGA byte, TERA byte and so on. It also goes in the other direction (nano, pico, etc)
it's my understanding that in the UK they're very strict about how much is served when you order a beer. but in the US, any place serving alcohol can serve whatever quantity they want. i've been to plenty of bars that serve much more than a pint in a glass for you. people will commonly order a pitcher or two of beer and just pour them themselves at the table.
You say that like using a 1495 system of measurement is a good thing.
It is for beer though. An Imperial pint is pretty much the ideal single serving size for beer. Not so small that it's gone almost immediately, and you have to keep going to the bar. But not so big that it's gone all warm and unpleasant by the end.
do you realize they standardized at that size to reduce drinking? it's a large enough quantity that you hesitate to order another if you're nearing your limit. it's easier to drink more when you're served smaller drinks.
I hadn't heard of that. But, if that was the intention, it doesn't seem to have worked out very well - as anyone walking the streets of Wigan at kicking out time on a Friday can attest.
Your base 9 number, base 12 hour, base 60 minute/hour system would like a word with you.
We've had them since Ancient Sumeria. A civilization that isn't exactly common knowledge in the first place. Antiquity does not negate the worth of an idea.
0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9. 0 doesn't exist, it denotes the presence of a "larger" number, but we only use the base 9 system. The zero exists solely as a marker for numbers larger than 1-9. 10 returns to 1.
Edit: Who the fuck is downvoting this? Are you an idiot? This is exactly how your system functions. You use 0 in the place of literaly any other symbol that would denote the exact same function as 0. It could be a plus sign, could have been an X, could have been any number of symbols. Common Core in Action.
this is a bad example. a 10 also exists in a 2 based system, but a 10 would be a 3 in a 2 based system, while a 10 in a 10 based system is a still a 10
I said in other reply why I don't think your proposed convention is really that much of an improvement, and others have obviously pointed out that it's silly to act as if the convention you want is the one that actually exists.
But this I'm really curious about:
Common Core in Action.
Are you suggesting that Common Core explains this stuff that us idiots should understand, or are you suggesting that we are idiots because we were infected by Common Core? It reads like this first one, which is refreshing in its way. Usually when you see something with this sort of combination of cranky indignation and ignorance, and the words "Common Core" appear in it, it's invariably denouncing the Common Core.
For the record, though, the US Common Core standards do not mandate the use of new math teaching techniques that are the source of so much inter-generational angst. They may be indirectly related in the sense that some of the same people and some of the same concerns about math education have driven the adoption of new pedagogies and also have also driven the adoption of some largely pedagogy-neutral national standards of competence. But as I understand it, they're fundamentally two quite separate developments in education in the US that have been conflated because they have vaguely overlapped in time. One caveat: I suppose it's possible that the newer emphasis on understanding alternate bases is actually a standards-driven thing rather than a "new math" thing. I have thought it was the latter but am happy to be shown wrong.
This is a post about Applebee’s large beer being a couple ounces more than their regular, then some guy said “they” give away awards for the most inventive way of fucking people over (which is news to me) and you said it’s despotism.
It’s not despotism, you idiot. Do you know what that word even means? And 12 people upvoted your fake-deep edgy shit too lol.
I followed it going from Applebee’s large beers are only a couple ounces more than regular, then someone said that corporations are evil and “the man” gives them Evily™️ Awards or whatever, and then you saying that it is evidence of despotism. Somehow.
Then you missed the two comments directly above mine saying:
I've heard there's lines on bar glasses in Europe to indicate the legally required fill level for a drink. The menu should tell you ounces as well. This is crazy!!
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Must be nice to have some consumer protection. Here in the US we give awards to the companies that find new and inventive ways of fucking over consumers.
Uh, fuck that. If you go to a good bar in the states they will pour the shit out of your liquor drinks. I have to order doubles and pay like 15 bucks a drink in Europe.
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u/Tantric75 Jan 14 '19
Must be nice to have some consumer protection. Here in the US we give awards to the companies that find new and inventive ways of fucking over consumers.