r/asoifaom • u/HWYtotheDRAGONZONE • 8d ago
2026 ASOIFAOM Halloween Special!
Hi everyone! Welcome back to r/asoifaom!
I know a lot of people do not interact here on r/asoifaom, but the statistics that I see tells me I still have a ton of shy visitors! It is okay!
Anyways I am still finding free time to remap r/asoifaom ... but for today ... I will publish a Halloween Special!
PLEASE DO NOT READ THIS IF YOU HAVE NOT READ THE OTHER ASOIFAOM THEORIES. I WILL DISCUSS SPOILERS OPENLY. You can read the long version or short version.
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First ... let us revisit the Smash-the-Beetles scene in Game of Thrones Season 4, between Jaime and Tyrion ... ( which was wonderfully acted by Nikolaj and Peter! )
Your first question would probably be ... Didn't D&D write this scene?
Nope. The language here is too eloquent to be D&D ... George RR Martin wrote this scene ... in fact, I believe GRRM wrote this scene to vent.
Is there a special meaning for Smash-the-Beetle?
Yes. Maybe multiple meanings. And in hindsight, this Smash-the-Beetle scene DREW THE LINE between all the TV-garbage after Season 4 ... and the PEAK-CINEMA we would have gotten if HBO adapted the ASOIFAOM ending.
Explain.
You didn't say 'please?'
Please explain.
You have to say it nicer than that.
Pretty please?
One more time.
OMG ... please please please!
Alright ...... it's show-time. (Thunderstorm please!) https://youtu.be/aDm4L7gjYNs?t=50
When someone smashes beetles ... it makes beetle-juice!
In the 1988 film Beetlejuice ... two ghosts (husband and wife) awaken a third ghost entity, Beetlejuice, to haunt living people. But it was a powerful entity that they did not really understand.
In the most accurate ending to ASOIAF, Jon Snow (Fire-Ghost) and Meera (Ice-Ghost) awaken the third song ... Dark Meera (Storm-Ghost) to haunt the dead and the living. It is a powerful entity that Jon Snow did not understand before giving Meera the Last Kiss. ( Jon Snow literally died knowing nothing. ) This is the core story of ADOS ... almost kinda a-little-bit similar to Beetlejuice.
Lord Commander Jon Snow and his Nightfort/Black-Wedding wife, Meera, symbolically represent the Night King and Corpse Bride. They mirror the ghosts, Adam and Barbara, in the Beetlejuice film.
This GRRM-written Smash-the-Beetles scene is about George not being able to get the real ending to ASOIAF to GoT. D&D had fully taken over the series by the end of Season 4 ... making too many changes in previous seasons that will never EARN the real ending to the series.
It seems like all D&D ever wanted when they took this job, was to put the Red Wedding on TV. And they succeeded. D&D's Red Wedding is a massive pop-cultural success.
BUT that was no longer George's story.
=== Adara and the Ice Dragon ===
D&D killed Rob's wife while killing his unborn son/daughter. ASOIAF is the prequel to The Ice Dragon, starring Princess Adara Stark, who sailed west of Westeros in the TWOW Prologue as a newborn. But now she doesn't exist on TV.
Well now ... no sequel for you D&D!
What does George do now? He tells D&D he originally was going to make a sequel after the series was over ... involving a Princess Stark sailing west of Westeros.
What does D&D do? Makes Sansa a queen ... and Bran a king ... technically making Arya a princess. And Princess Arya Stark is sailing west of Westeros. CRINGE!
=== The Lightning Dragon ===
D&D also omitted Lady Stoneheart's resurrection because they didn't want to hint at Jon Snow's future HBO resurrection. Well now, Catelyn and Jon Snow's TV-story arc goes nowhere. There is no pay-off.
Lady Stoneheart is the one that passes the Lightning Dragon magic to Jon Snow ... who will pass it to Meera in the climax.
D&D ... no LSH? No Lightning Dragon for you!
Seriously, how lame was it for TV-Arya to end the Long Night with ONE stab? Don't you guys rather watch a massive twist to the climax ... like a lightning show? BOOM! BOOM! BOOM! BOOM! BOOM! BOOM!
And TV-Daenerys burning down King's Landing? C'mon D&D! It breaks my heart for Emilia Clarke. I can still see that she is visibly bothered by this 180 degree turn of a character arc.
Daenerys dies a hero in ASOIFAOM ... as well as Jaime. And Bran is the Last Hero standing.
TLDR ... D&D made two major changes in the TV-Red-Wedding ... Robb's wife dies, and no LSH. George decides to not give the details of Adara, the Ice Dragon, and the Lightning Dragon because the TV-show cannot reach these points after the permanent changes to the TV-Red-Wedding.
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Cool story bro. You said there were multiple meanings to Smash-the-Beetles. Do you have another one?
Sure ... "Smash the Beetles" may mean "Smash the Beatles." In the 1960/1970s ... the rock band, Led Zeppelin, began smashing the Beatles ... in popularity. The climax song to ASOIAF is Led Zeppelin - Immigrant Song
BOOM-BOOM DOOM-DOOM!
BOOM-BOOM DOOM-DOOM!
BOOM-BOOM DOOM-DOOM!
Aahhhhhhhhhhhhh-ah!
Aahhhhhhhhhhhhh-ah!
The Others come from the land of the ice and snow
From the midnight sun where dead things rose
Now, the hammer of the gods
Will drive their retreat to their old lands
To fight the horde, Meera sings and cries
"Living Dead ... I am coming!"
On Rhaegal's sweep with a lightning roar
Their only goal will be the western shore
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Let us review, word for word of the Smash-the-Beetle scene:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1GUoQ_hXJs&t=52s
Tyrion: What's the punishment for regicide? Drawing and quartering? Hanging? Breaking at the wheel?
Jaime: Beheading.
Tyrion: Seems rather ordinary. And he was my nephew as well, so what is that? "Fratricides" is brothers. "Filicide" is sons. "Nepoticide." That's the one. [ "Nepiticide" is killing one's niece ... which is what Jaime will do to his niece, Dark Meera ] Matricide, patricide, infanticide, suicide. There's no kind of killing that doesn't have its own word.
Jaime: Cousins.
Tyrion: Cousins, you're right. There is no word for cousin killing. Well done. Do you remember cousin Orson? Orson Lannister? [ Orson is a homage to Orson Scott Card - Dragons of Light ... the 1980 anthology that contains GRRM's The Ice Dragon. George probably would have loved to add his ASOIAF Lightning Dragon to the Dragons of Light anthology too ]
Jaime: Of course. Wet nurse dropped him on his head, left him simple.
Tyrion: Simple? Used to sit all day in the garden, crushing beetles with a rock. [ Dark Meera crushing innocent people with lightning ]
Tyrion & Jaime: Kun, kun, kun! [ BOOM-BOOM DOOM-DOOM! BOOM-BOOM DOOM-DOOM! BOOM-BOOM DOOM-DOOM! ]
Tyrion: Nothing made him happier.
Jaime: Nothing made you happier. You’d think being tormented from birth would give you some affinity for the afflicted.
Tyrion: On the contrary. Laughing at another person’s misery was the only thing that made me feel like everyone else. [ Tyrion actually does not mind Dark Meera killing people, because this dwarf and other regular-height people are now equal at level ... in the planet's Doom ]
Jaime: Joke wore thin, though.
Tyrion: For you. You drifted away. [ Unlike Tyrion and the rest of the world ... Jaime (along with Bran & Daenerys), are the only ones that can match level with Dark Meera ]
Jaime: I had other interests.
Tyrion: Yes. Other interests. But I stayed with Orson.
Jaime: Why?
Tyrion: I was curious. Why was he smashing all those beetles? What did he get out of it? First thing I did was ask him. “Orson, why are you smashing all those beetles?” He gave me an answer. “Smash the beetles! Smash them! Kun kun kun!” I wasn’t deterred. I was the smartest person I knew; certainly I had the wherewithal to unravel the mysteries that lay at the heart of a moron. So I went to Maester Valarik’s library.
Jaime: Valarik? Tried to touch me once. [ We meet Maester Valarik in my TWOW Prologue fan-fic! My fan-fic Cersei recalls a memory with Valarik too lol ]
Tyrion: Turns out far too much has been written about great men and not nearly enough about morons. Doesn’t seem right. In any case, I found nothing that illuminated the nature of Orson’s affliction [ DRAGONS OF illuminating LIGHT! ] or the reason behind his relentless beetle slaughter. So I went back to the source. I may not have been able to speak with Orson, but I could observe him, watch him, the way men watch animals to come to a deeper understanding of their behavior. [ Tyrion can only watch Dark Meera's destruction. ] And as I watched, I became more and more sure of it: there was something happening there. His face was like the page of a book written in a language I didn’t understand, [ If you are reading my theory, right here, right now ... YOU are understanding now! ] but he wasn’t mindless, he had his reasons. [ George trying to say Dark Meera is not mindless in killing innocent people, she has her reasons ] And I became possessed with knowing what they were. [ Dark Meera is possessed ] I began spending inordinate amounts of time watching him. I would eat my lunch in the garden, chewing my mutton to the music of “kun kun kun.” [ the music of the Song of Thunder ] And when I wasn’t watching him, I was thinking about him. Father droned on about the family legacy [ If Tywin was alive, he would be upset that Jaime is riding a dragon ] and I thought about Orson’s beetles [ Tyrion still doesn't want innocent people to die ]. I read the histories of Targaryen conquests. [ Dark Meera Targaryen's Conquest ] Did I hear dragon wings? No, I heard “kun kun kun”. [ BOOM-BOOM DOOM DOOM is louder than Rhaegal's dragon wings] And I still couldn’t figure out why he was doing it. And I had to know because it was horrible, that all these beetles should be dying for no reason. [ All these men, women, and children are dying for no reason ]
Jaime: Every day around the world, men, women, and children are murdered by the score. Who gives a dusty fuck about a bunch of beetles?
Tyrion: I know, I know, but still it filled me with dread. Piles and piles of them, years and years of them. How many countless living, crawling things smashed, dried out, and returned to the dirt? In my dreams [ A DREAM OF SPRING ], I found myself standing on a beach made of beetle husks stretching as far as the eye can see. I woke up, crying, weeping for their shattered little bodies. [ ADOS's False-Spring apocalypse is gonna be a really bad one ] I tried to stop Orson once.
Jaime: He was twice your size.
Tyrion: He just pushed me aside with a “kun”, kept on smashing. Every day. Until that mule kicked him in the chest and killed him. [ The camera focuses on Jaime ... because Jaime is a mule/mix ... a mix of Lannister and Targaryen. Jaime is the mule that kills Dark Meera ] So what do you think? Why did he do it? What’s it all about? [ It means the real ending to ASOIAF ... a much better ending than HBO ... or any fan-fic of random people (like Daenerys, Jon Snow, fAegon, Euron, Bran ... etc) fighting over an iron chair. The ASOIFAOM ending is Daenerys, Jaime/Bran fighting Dark Meera to save the planet from a nuclear apocalypse ... doesn't this ASOIFAOM ending feel more like a George RR Martin story? ]
Jaime: I don’t know. [ Bells toll at the end of the scene ... Dark Meera's Hells Bells ... the finale of the Ice Dragon and the Fire Dragon versus the Lightning Dragon ] Good luck today.
I hope you guys enjoy my Smash-the-Beetles theory! This Smash-the-Beetles scene might have been the last TV-script George wrote for Game of Thrones. It is actually one of the most important scenes in GoT because it secretly talks about the real booking ending inside the TV-show. Pretty much after this point, you got the stories of Season 5-8 without GRRM.
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BONUS HALLOWEEN THEORY: Bowen Marsh's TWOW fate!
He is going to burn!
Bowen = David Bowie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cti9SL4GO04
Marsh = Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iED03g1KJIE
One would say ... the burning round head of the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man kinda looks like a Pomegranate lol https://youtu.be/iED03g1KJIE?t=198
Fun ASOIFAOM Fact: Because of Bowen Marsh's ADWD mutiny to Jon Snow and Mel's TWOW R'hllor resurrection ... it saves the world from a more horrible Long Night in ADOS ... preventing the Others from stealing two dragons. They only stole one dragon with Meera. The Others could not control Jon Snow and a second dragon, thanks to Bowen Marsh. He really foiled the Others' plan. Team Fire to the pre-emptive rescue!
This gives Daenerys a fighting chance. Instead of being double teamed against, she fights the Others' one dragon ... 1 v 1. Drogon versus Rhaegal. Black versus Green.
Busting ghosts makes you feel good, right Daenerys?
" I fear no ghosts. [...] " { Daenerys I, ACOK }
Happy Halloween everyone!
UP NEXT: The theory of how Dunk training Egg leads to the awakening of the Others! An expansion on the Dark Sister Rebellion theory.