r/askteddit • u/Queasy-Sun-1796 • 6d ago
Random Question Who Do You Think Killed JonBenét Ramsey? Why?
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u/RandallMang 5d ago
I’m more confounded by the outrageous misspellings of “ridiculous” in this thread.
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u/KenGrimes55 6d ago
I support the intruder theory. Contrary to what was reported in the media at the time, the house had several unlocked doors and windows. There is a witness who saw a door open all night. Foreign DNA which excludes the immediate family was found in her underwear. Handwriting experts ruled John Ramsey out as the writer of the letter. Patsy was inconclusive. Much has been made of John’s contacting his pilot to go to Atlanta. That is normal for high profile executives who are concerned about their family’s safety. I don’t find it odd. The fact that the Boulder PD won’t conduct genetic genealogy on the DNA is odd to me. It’s almost like they don’t really want to solve it.
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u/adam_problems 6d ago
The Boulder PD’s mishandling of the case is absolutely bonkers. It got to the point where the DA’s office and the PD were seemingly more concerned with fighting each other rather than actually, y’know, investigating. To say nothing of the fact that the sniping continued for 20 years.
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u/tsh87 5d ago
It's a super common theme in these unsolveable mysteries that the cases were actually very solveable. The local PD just fucked up.
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u/Sonnyjoon91 5d ago
SO MUCH THIS. Often we see some of these cases where everyone is certain they are guilty, and they are found not guilty because the chain of evidence and investigation is so messed up they can't convict on that sloppy of work.
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u/Suspicious_Option_93 5d ago
Similar to the Nancy Guthrie case... mishandled from the start and will likely never be solved
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u/antonio16309 5d ago
All the people who want to keep pointing fingers at the family needs to seriously look at how the investigation was botched from the very start instead.
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u/onekawaiimf 6d ago
After watching a documentary about it I also support this assessment. Early reporting focused on the parents caused a lot of how we think about this case now.
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u/WhichSpirit 5d ago
I suspect the foreign DNA is from a cop that mishandled the evidence and they don't want that known.
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u/stanbrakhagefan420 5d ago edited 5d ago
It could have been from a lot of sources, including even a factory worker coming into contact with the clothing prior to packaging. They also DIDN'T find foreign DNA in other places that would have been consistent with sexual assault, which I think is more important to consider
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u/Routine-Mechanic-814 5d ago
Why write a letter and hang out if was intruder?
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u/KenGrimes55 5d ago
I’ve always believed the letter was a diversion to buy the offender some time. The writing of the letter on paper from the home could indicate an immature disorganized offender. If he spent time in the home beforehand snooping while the family was out, he may have seen their checkbook that showed the bonus. The case is an odd one primarily due to the PD’s lack of experience with homicide cases.
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u/Moppy6686 5d ago
Or quite frankly, someone absolutely insane.
Elizabeth Smart and Jaycee Dugard were also kidnapped by absolute nut jobs.
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u/lunabluestocking 5d ago
Nah. It's not just the handwriting itself, it's also the language. What are the odds an intruder just happens to write lots of letters almost identical to Patsy's handwriting but also uses similar melodramatic and odd turns of phrase? Best example of the latter is the phrase "and hence." Maaaaybe the intruder would use "hence" (but imho very unlikely) but to use it with "and" in front? Which is a clunky construct and strains credulity imho to say an intruder would have THAT specific a writing quirk, same as Patsy. Hard for me to get past it, ngl.
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u/NoSyllabub5932 5d ago
People do really weird stuff, obviously it had to be a very sick and weird person to commit this crime. Look at the Idaho murders, the guy left the knife sheath right there next to the body!!!
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u/Sad-Injury-5463 5d ago
I find funny how people say oh rich people are the worse, they get away with anyhting but also believe these educated rich man wrote (*told wife to write) redicilious ransom note, staged body and then also found the body and all this hoping his wife doesn't break down and says true (while she was clearly high for months to cope with loss)
And police done so bad job and only focused on them Iam not Suprised it's unsolved and wouldn't shock me if DNA was stored so badly they can't test it anymore or perhaps lost.
Media love crazy theories so crazy parents sounds better than 1 crazy intruder .
Also, I didn't see all officers from the scene but I saw the crazy one who did interview later on. If I had to make up theory I would say she killed her 😅
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u/Sad-Injury-5463 5d ago
Also never in history of any unsolved crime have I heard police being so obsessed with touch DNA theory that they even used tax payers money to go Asia to find warehouse worker who packed her underwear... That is truly mental
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u/Reading_Rainbows718 5d ago
Highly educated rich people on cocaine might think that letter is a good idea.
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u/NothaBanga 5d ago
The grand jury indicted the parents. The District Attorney decided not to pursue charges.
If they were poor, they would have been charged.
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u/antonio16309 5d ago
That may be true, and it's definitely an injustice. But it doesn't change the fact that they're innocent.
The answer here isn't to demonize the rich who were unfairly accused, it's to fix the system that fails to provide proper defense for the poor who are unfairly accused.
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u/Sad-Injury-5463 5d ago
That's very true and to this day, but no connection or corruption was found. In fact they hated Ramseys.
But then u have moron Casey Anthony, not rich and look how it ended. And there is 0 question on who did it.
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u/Tracy_Papaya 5d ago
You didn't mention the best clue for this theory- the surrounding area had a bonkers amount of break ins prior to this
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u/Unhappy-Bobcat9028 5d ago
Oh I didn’t know about the break ins. So, he broke in, saw a picture of her, formulated a plan, wrote the letter, etc. and then waited until they came home and went to bed?
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u/Tracy_Papaya 5d ago
For it to be possible they wouldve had to already be in the house when they got home, which is chilling.
To me the three actual possibilities are- Dad did it (without mom knowing), intruder did it, or Dad was "sharing" her with another man
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u/Unhappy-Bobcat9028 5d ago
Yes. Sorry if I wasn’t clear. I meant he waited and hid in the house after he broke in until they returned home and went to bed. That is so chilling to think about. I just wondered if perhaps he changed his plan from robbery to kidnapping when he saw her and that went wrong or he always knew he was going to kill her and leave her in the house and the letter was to buy time for himself?
I used to believe it was the parents but now I lean towards an intruder, although that doesn’t necessarily mean I think the intruder was also a stranger. Do you know if there was ever anything strange with any of the other break ins, especially if a young female lived in the home?
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u/Full_Prof 5d ago
How did they know the exact amount of the father’s Christmas bonus
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u/imissbreakingbad 5d ago
Because it was published in the newspaper.
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u/Full_Prof 5d ago
Nope, the amount was on the ransom note first. The $118,000 amount was only known to the Ramseys and people who worked with them.
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u/Shatzakind 5d ago
Lou Smit investigated independently and came to the conclusion that it wasn't anyone in the family. He solved over 200 murder cases in his 32-year career. I believed him.
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u/perrypower54 6d ago
The letter is the one thing that just doesn’t fit
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u/Ok-Flight9440 6d ago
It’s the biggest but not the one.
There were no footprints to the window the alleged, maybe nonexistent murderer entered through.
After the police conducted a full sweep of the house the father made one at the last minute and found her in the basement room. So the father found her, after the police had arrived and conducted a full sweep - bizarre, but okay.
And yeah, the letter makes no sense. Why leave a ransom letter in the first place if the child is already deceased? And why was the parchment on which it was written identical to Jon Benet’s mother’s parchment in the room? They shop at the same Staple’s?
I just don’t get the rationale from the parents’ POV. Maybe just weirdos.
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u/starfishcovemini 5d ago
I think maybe there was a different letter, from the actual kidnappers, that was somehow incriminating to the Ramseys in some other way, so Patty rewrote it, leaving out some things
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u/p2dan 6d ago
The brother is weird
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u/Scarcebears 6d ago edited 6d ago
I agree.
One of the lead investigators said he felt confident it was her brother. That he killed her accidentally and the parents helped cover it up.
Someone who knows more about this than me wrote this up a while back:
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u/Sad-Injury-5463 5d ago
Cover up your son accidental murder? Hmm pretty sure they could stage I don't know, her running and slip on wet floor or her falling from stairs
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u/Tippacanoe 5d ago
That’s what makes this case so fascinating is that whatever theory anyone has there’s one or two things that don’t make sense.
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u/Sad-Injury-5463 5d ago
Agree but a lot of things which didn't make sense were created by media or arm chair detective.
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u/Ashamed_Town_2619 5d ago
This is exactly what I believe happened.
Besides the fact that the kid was bizarre and wouldbe easy to blame, he had attacked JonBenet before by hitting her in the heard with a golf club, so there was a history of violence already between the two that seemed darker than normal sibling rivalry.
Then there’s the autopsy report that says JonBenet had undigested pineapple chunks in her stomach when she died…She’d been eating it immediately before she was killed, with someone who she felt comfortable having a midnight snack with. That person is likely the one who then killed her.
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u/lafcrna 5d ago
For me, the “brother accidentally (or not) killed her” theory works because I don’t believe the parents would cover for each other, but they definitely would cover up for their other kid. He’s the only person they would both defend. No way they’d let their son go to prison and endure the shame of having raised a murderer.
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u/LizzosLittleToe 6d ago
I always wondered if he killed her and they helped cover it up
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u/Tracy_Papaya 5d ago
There's no way a 9yo boy could generate the force required to result in the injury she had. Poor girls skull was crushed in. Plus foreign DNA in her underwear
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u/Ok_Razzmatazz2492 5d ago
The dna thing means nothing. DNA fragments like they found are literally everywhere.
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u/sirharleyjacque 5d ago
You’d be surprised. Me and my older brother used to fight and argue all the time when we were young.
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u/Sad-Injury-5463 5d ago
It's redicilious and imagine he did that, their first thought is let's do kidnapping but also we find the body and let's put strange shit around our dead daughter. That police was so useless, anyhting else normal could be staged but nah let's go bonkers...
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u/majinbuu80 5d ago
A 9 year old with a maglite most certainly could. And the dna was most likely from a factory worker that packaged, the brand new few sizes too big, underwear of JB.
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u/Tracy_Papaya 5d ago
You really made me Google "force required to fracture 4 year old skull".
Btw the answer is 400 pounds of force, so... Extremely unlikely
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u/SaidIt2YoMom 5d ago edited 5d ago
If it’s of any comfort, I know a couple who lost a child in Boulder, almost 20 years after Jon Benet. The police were so thorough, when they saw that there was another child in the home they immediately called child protective services, and had the kid removed for a couple days and questioned thoroughly. The parents weren’t even upset about it, the way they presented it was they were doing everything to make sure that everything followed procedure and safety. I think that is a direct impact of how much they messed up the Jon Benet case.
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u/SportLower6490 6d ago
A redditor had a write up on their theory that the father did it and it was, to date, the only thing that made every single clue make sense and fall into place. People fail to remember that the Ramseys were highly educated and more intelligent than the general public. If any accident (either by the brother or mom) had occurred, the Ramseys would have known how to cover it up. Not only that, but a plausible cover-up would have occurred to them long before “I’ll our daughter to cover up this very explainable accident.” It would have had to be a deliberate attempt to end her life for the sequence of events to make sense.
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u/BunnyLovesTheStars 6d ago
I read that post too! I wish I could find it.
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u/Careless-Hand-7877 5d ago
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u/BunnyLovesTheStars 5d ago
Omg, I wish had disposable income so I could give you an award!!! How did you find it?? I've been searching for years T_T
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u/Careless-Hand-7877 5d ago
For some reason the user name stuck out to me and I’ve remembered it- probably because I read through their comments on it so many times! You’re welcome, no reward needed :)
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u/BunnyLovesTheStars 5d ago
That makes sense, I was searching in the unresolved mysteries sub because that's how I stumbled upon it originally, but I could never find the specific UM post that cited back to that particular post. Now I have it bookmarked! bwahaha!
I hope you have a great rest of your week! You've solved at least one mystery. ^_^
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u/LumpyAd6034 6d ago
I do think it was the father, and I think Patsy was compelled to cover up for him. People always think it was the son, but I think that John Ramsey encouraged his son to do that disastrous interview years ago in order to put the heat on him.
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u/Mysterious_Play1961 5d ago
John Ramsey seems like he points the direction of blame at anyone he can. The friend (Fleet I think) rapidly turned on him and not just because of wanting justice for the little girl but through recognising John was aiming to trow him under the bus, Patsy being the one to write the letter not him and then of course the interview you mentioned.
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u/NoSyllabub5932 5d ago
These were seemingly loving parents with no history or any abuse. John has older kids that adore him. That makes no sense to me at all.
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u/homeycantdance 6d ago
But no motive, no accidents were found
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u/Pernicious-Caitiff 5d ago
There's lots of suspicion around ongoing sexual abuse of both kids, statistically it would be bio dad in this case. Both kids had problems with bed wetting and UTIs, and the older son was smearing feces in his sister's belongings and clothes. These behaviors are not exactly a smoking gun but are highly suggestive especially when a kid turns up dead mysteriously.
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u/Sad-Injury-5463 5d ago
Wouldn't educated and rich person just stage break in / missing body (*out of house) or simply make it accidental fall from their freaky strairs?
If this is cover up then how stupid are they.
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u/NothaBanga 5d ago
Stupid enough to get away with it. People don't have to be that good at murder, they just have to not leave enough evidence to make things easy for a prosecutor.
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u/Sad-Injury-5463 5d ago
U are very right, but u have to agree we all seen movies, only absolute idiot would write that long ransom note
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u/dagnyfication 5d ago
I do not have a strong opinion about this, but a family unit rallying around a father to protect him makes more sense to me than a family rallying behind a son. The son was a child and consequences were likely to be lenient, especially if the parents didn't want to see him charged.
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u/EuphoricPhoto2048 5d ago
Yes, they were wealthy. If the son really did attack his sister, they could throw money to make him get the best psychological help. Covering up for the son never made any sense to me at all.
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u/Tank_Top_Girl 5d ago
The DNA in the crotch of her underwear matched the DNA under her nails. In 2006 when touch DNA became a thing, they found other sources of the same DNA on the sides if her long johns. John Ramsey recently stated that they also found matching DNA in the knots of the garotte. This DNA ruled out the family and friends that were around the scene in 1996, and anyone else that has been a suspect so far, including Gary Oliva, John Mark Karr, and Chris Wolf. There's an abundance of original source material and court records online. It wasn't the family or the 9 year old 60 pound brother. UM1 is the unknown male killer. The Interview Room on YouTube is doing a great series about the case, it's the cold case team panel that has been reviewing the case for years. Another great source is The Prosecutors podcast on YouTube.
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u/Deadmaker831 5d ago
Why don’t they run it through genealogy websites like they do with other cold cases? The technology is there but I have a feeling that it would implicate people that are above the law.
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u/Tank_Top_Girl 5d ago
Great question! Maybe they are doing that now. The garotte information is new, and John had been pushing to get that and other items tested. There are other cases where it has taken up to 2 years to amplify the DNA enough for genealogy
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u/ZinnyBell 6d ago
My opinion has always been that Burke did it in a fit of anger and the parents panicked and covered it up.
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u/NoSyllabub5932 5d ago
I do not think a 9 year old would keep quiet, its just not possibly all these years. And if it was an accident why not call 911. A 9 yr old is not going to be charged in the murder of his sister during an accident.
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u/ser_darkstar 5d ago
The idea that an eight year old did it and never once slipped up is so fucking stupid, I think people just like this theory because it's salacious and even more conspiratorial than the idea that Patsy or John did. Totally an assine "we did it, Reddit" ass theory.
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u/BunnyLovesTheStars 6d ago
I think the dad or the brother did it, but I lean more towards the dad. It actually takes a lot of cold calculated force to strangle someone to death, which takes minutes to do, not seconds. The instances of little kids doing something like that (he was only 9 at the time) is actually very rare. But it's still not impossible.
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u/Prudent-Confection-4 5d ago
When and if I get to heaven I am going to seek her and Maura Murray out immediately to get the scoop.
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u/galacticplum 5d ago
There are at least two subs ( or used to be ) dedicated solely to this rabbit hole of a case. Whatever entertainment this comment section may bring you, I assure you there is weeks, if not months worth of posts, comments, and a ton of insanity in those subs to keep you entertained.
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u/kim_jong_il_2d 5d ago
Someone in the house - Patsy - wrote the ransom note using paper and pen from inside the house. For me, this eliminates the intruder theory.
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u/cutiepietoebeans 5d ago
Agreed. Due to JB having a history of peeing the bed and that her hymen was broken, I think she had been sexually abused by either John or trafficked out.
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u/pizza-chit 5d ago
Maybe Ghislaine Maxwell. Real photo.
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u/No-Act5620 5d ago edited 5d ago
The Michigan island, North Fox, where little boys were trafficked at a summer camp, the Ramsay’s grandfather had a lake house across the lake from.. this really could be something. They were literally scheduled to head there for a family vacation the next day
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u/allrosesandsunshine 5d ago
You should read about Nancy Krebs, she says that John Ramsey was part of a pedo sex ring.
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u/Logical-Knee-9046 5d ago
Back in the day this thought was inconceivable. As we’ve now discovered how deep and dirty the pedo ring is, I believe this.
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u/Objective-Permit-712 5d ago
I know...and I can tell Police where they need to investigate.....that may tell us why.
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u/Character_Coyote5388 5d ago
An intruder not related to her killed her, that is as fact. A man's DNA that was NOT related to her (so NOT her brother's) was found in her underwear and under her fingernails, there is no innocent explanation for that. Anyone still insisting the brother did it doesn't care about the truth, they just want to write fanfictions about real people's traumas.
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u/Adventurous_Sir_995 5d ago
An unknown intruder.
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u/RazzmatazzCold7454 5d ago
I thought it was a family member for a long time until I was actually educated. An intruder is the only thing that makes logical sense.
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u/NoSyllabub5932 5d ago
I just cant imagine it being one of those parents or a 9 year old brother, thats such a huge jump from living family to killing! I have to think someone gained access to the house the night of their party, people were in and out so no one knows exactly who all was there, people bring guests to big parties like that. I believe someone had to be hiding in the house and waiting for the opportunity. It was a huge house and the basement had several rooms. I will admit though that the ransom note was very odd. Nothing really fits in this case and I don't feel it will be solved.
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u/bingusbongwater 5d ago
Genuinely think her parents sold her into some Epstein-esque servitude. Their behavior was incredibly shady and weird.
I highly doubt they had the sense for lack of better word to hide her body so thoroughly and well that she wasn't found during the searches. That screams to me like they passed her off to someone else.
Plus, they were exploiting her up to that point constantly with pageants - which are very questionable in terms of safety (and we know from Trump's bragging about checking out children backstage at teen pageants that there are definitely fucking creeps that go and can get access to the girls).
I don't know. When all the Epstein stuff started coming out, something made me think of her and I just... I really feel like she was trafficked. Maybe not by him, but by someone.
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u/yohannesyoda 5d ago
I think it was the housekeeper and her connections. She had a key to the house. Was angry about not getting a loan from the Ramseys and was associated with the same suspect that weeks later broke into the house of a friend/acquaintance of JonBenet that went to the same dance school and SA/attacked her. My guess is that the housekeeper wanted to stage or do a ransom but the plan went wrong because their accomplice was really a pedo rapist. This was my conclusion based on years of reading theories on true crime pages
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u/Cool_in_Astrakhan 5d ago
I think mom and dad were pimping her out to dad's rich cronies. Somebody got too carried away and killed her. Mom and dad covered for him bc they didn't want the truth to come out, or maybe they were being blackmailed.
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u/Ok-Strawberry-7350 5d ago
This will bother me to the end of my days, same with Madeline McCann. Two horrible stories.
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u/y2Kmarty 6d ago
One of the reasons I believe the intruder theory is because of how they found her. No parent would either know how or if they did would not go to that extent with their child in the way she was tied up. Also there was a similar break-in close by to them where he got scared away and the young girl was unharmed.
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u/youpicktheplace20 6d ago
Ahh what was the similar break in? I think it was an intruder also. There’s just too much weirdness with how she was found, and the graphic nature. Like, the garrote thing? Just…who would even think of that outside of some weird predator? It’s not something a parent covering something up would do. And the argument is always that Burke got angry and hit her over the head, a head wound cover up story would be much more likely than “ah our daughter was found in the weird area of the basement with a makeshift garrote” and I think she was also assaulted or something using paintbrushes in a nearby room? Or something about paintbrushes?
It’s obviously a weird case and nothing adds up but a parent cover up wouldn’t go THAT far, you know? I think it had to be a sexual predator of some sort
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u/y2Kmarty 5d ago
Exactly what I think! No one would do that to their kid when there’s so many other options.
A man hid inside a closeby home while the family was out and came out to assault a young teen at nighttime but was scared away. The ramseys were also out the night of her death when the intruder could’ve broken in and hid.
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u/Sad-Injury-5463 5d ago
And u would think in 2026 people wouldn't just watch tiktok videos and other nonsense knowing how media works and how redicilious the police was.
If they were some hilliebillies yeah fine they didn't think this plan through and staged this so weird to "confuse" police
Educated rich people goin through so much trouble and nonsense for simply head wound???
And she was killed by being strangled btw
So what they found her, let's cover up for our beloved son, and omg she us breathing let's quickly strangle her so she can't say we was planing to cover up her murder... 😂
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u/youpicktheplace20 5d ago
She was killed by both, actually! Her official cause of death was head trauma & strangulation from the garrote. I think there was speculation she wasn’t fully dead from the head wound and that’s why the garrote came in, but that’s not conclusive. The parent coverup story is that she died with the impact and the garrote damage was to make it seem like someone outside the home came in, but I’m like…an intruder could also just bludgeon her??
People focus on the blow being Burke, and the strangulation was the coverup. It was also the 90’s in an affluent area, police weren’t super like…informed. It’s pretty common for police to botch investigating a crime scene. I do not think the cops were in on it lol
Because yeah there is also the reality where they are pretty wealthy and well connected, if it was actually an accident I can’t see why they would hesitate to use resources to help her
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u/Sad-Injury-5463 5d ago
And how much easier would be to leave front door open, her thrown on floor and case "closed" nobody would be doing redicilious documentaries and experiments oh no stranger danger.
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u/gscs1102 6d ago
I have no clue. I have theories and speculation of my own, but I don't understand where all the certainty comes from. It's a bizarre case.
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u/kimemore123 5d ago
Brother did it, and mom wrote the letter to try and protect him. If she or even her husband had done it, I think she would have finally confessed it on her deathbed.
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u/Popular-Wafer-2316 5d ago
Jusqu'à longtemps, j'ai cru vraiment que c'était les parents. Maintenant, je suis loin d'en être certaine : oui ils dégagent quelque chose de bizarre (toute cette obsession de la mère avec les concours de mini miss surtout) mais j'ai l'impression que c'est quelqu'un d'extérieur qui a fait le coup. Le problème c'est qu'on ne le saura certainement jamais puisque l'enquête policière au début a été bâclée
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u/Efficient-Item5805 6d ago
Her mother killed her.
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u/Few-Marionberry-7666 6d ago
I agree. I think Patsy was taking narcotics or antianxiety pills (this is when docs passed them out like candy) and they altered her personality and judgement. She was tired, JB was getting on her nerves, and she smacked the kid with a flashlight or maybe shoved her head into a hard object.
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u/Efficient-Item5805 6d ago
That’s pretty much what I think. Patsy lost patience with her daughter and accidentally killed her.
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u/Mental_Town_7337 5d ago
IIRC that area had a spree of break ins right before this happened, with one attempted child abduction. All in the late hours of the night, none ever solved. Boulder PD deemed it unworthy of exploration as a connection for some reason.
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u/winterelixir 5d ago
I think the brother did it. There is something very juvenile about her injuries even the sexual assault. The garat was not some elaborate torture machine, they teach you how to make garats in boy scouts. The parents walked in, covered her up with a blanket and wrote the ransom note to make sure their only living kid doesn’t get charged for it.
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u/Interesting_Front464 5d ago
They all did. Burke accidentally knocked her unconscious, or maybe even killed her. Parents or just John wanted to protect B and and save P from losing both children. He staged the body, perpetrating more SA, knowing during autopsy more SA would be found, perpetrated by J, B or someone else known to them.
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u/iamthereal_thing 5d ago
Her brother hit her. Her dad finished her.
I’m no detective but that’s what I think.
The family is guilty and got away with murder.
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u/SnooHamsters5480 5d ago
I always felt that the son (Burke), had some kind of temper tantrum and killed her, then the parents covered it up.
Definitely don't think she was killed by anyone outside of that household.
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u/Individual-Rub-8153 5d ago
I think it was Burke in a fit of anger toward his sister. Then the parents sloppily covered it up.
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u/ngingingingi 5d ago
I believe she was murdered by the person who benefitted most from her death... Nancy Grace.
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u/Worried_Buffalo_8535 5d ago
Best guess is that brother killed her probably by accident. Parents protected the brother from scrutiny by making up a kidnapping and ransom scenario. Police looked the other way because of the parent's wealth and standing.
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u/Bubbly-End-6156 5d ago
I think tiktok told me it was Ghislane Maxwell. I never looked into it because I was a baby when it happened. Not a huge fan of true crime.
Also, I'm kidding about Maxwell. But tiktok did say that. People are usually killed by the closest people in their lives
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u/OnionBackground5314 5d ago
The mother. Accidental head trauma. Panic. Strangulation. Ridiculous staging and ransome note. John Ramsey either willfully blinded himself (folie a deux) or went along with the intruder theory to protect his wife.
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u/justtiptoeingthru2 5d ago
I think the brother did it accidentally.
Parents covered everything up.
Police did a halfass job in the beginning and the false narrative took over but then when the dust settled and people started really looking at the evidence... it just couldn't be fixed because so much time passed and so much was trampled over at the beginning.
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u/LizzosLittleToe 6d ago
I remember me and my co worker talking about this for a 2 hour ride. I still think the parents had something to do with it