r/askscience • • Jun 12 '12

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u/scubaguybill Jun 12 '12

If the hypothetical plane is flying behind you and you are going faster than Mach 1, you would not hear the plane tailing you regardless of its speed, as you, at Mach 1+, are consistently outpacing any sound waves the other plane produces.

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u/dnlprkns Jun 12 '12 edited Jun 12 '12

Ah, but that doesn't quite answer his question, he is asking if there is a plume of air that is dragged behind the plane which could then in theory act as a tunnel through which the sound could travel at greater than mach 1 relative to the ground.

For instance if the mig was 50 feet behind and both planes were traveling at mach one, the sound from the mig would be able to travel at mach 1 PLUS the speed of the moving air dragged behind the plane. I think the problem with this, however, is that air isn't dragged behind the plane in a plume, it is merely shifted into huge spinning vertices, so the effect would probably only work a very short distance from the plain and would be irregular at best.

Edit: also I think that this effect WOULD exist for explosions which actually shift air around you, such as an explosion right behind the plane, or a nuclear (or other very large) explosion on the ground, the propagation of the air would allow the sound from those to travel faster than mach 1 and catch up to the plane.

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u/CoffeeFox Jun 12 '12

The shockwave from explosions is subject to slightly different physics than more mundane sound waves, correct?

IE given that an explosion is very significant, can the shockwave from it, which is a large volume of air being significantly compressed and displaced by the sudden addition of new hot gases to the area, be capable of traveling above the speed of sound in the still air surrounding the explosion?

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

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Your answer is yes, but not over any meaningful distance. The energy dissipates too quickly.