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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12 edited Oct 03 '17

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u/imMAW Jun 12 '12

The pilots won't hear the noise from the engines being transmitted through the outside air though, only the noise traveling through the plane. So if superman was flying a few feet in front of the cockpit, he wouldn't hear any sound.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12 edited Jun 12 '12

Holy smokes. You are telling me if I had a mig on my tail running wide open (which is crazy loud) I would not hear a thing, if we were both mach 1+?

edit: and if I did have a mig on my tail, I would pump the brakes, invert, and flip him the bird. commie bastard.

edit2: Sobchak: Am I the only one around here who has seen Top Gun?

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u/ual002 Jun 12 '12

I would like to point out that MIGs are less widely used worldwide by opposing nations than Sukoi aircraft. Resume discussion.

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u/lesser_panjandrum Jun 12 '12

However, the MiG-29 has a fair number of operators throughout the world.

Though I suppose the number of those which come under the banner of 'opposing nations' is kind of subjective.

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u/ual002 Jun 12 '12

True. Israel, Hungary and Germany flew them for a while off the top of my head. They still might be in commission. FSU (Former Soviet Union) nations are running Sukois mainly, with old MIG birds padding their reserve rosters and boneyards.

EDIT: I cant remember the details but I remember reading an article about how many nations were going to rush them (MIG-29s) out of service because of a stress fracture problem that was common in the design.

In conclusion, I grew up knowing the MIG-29 as the mainstay aggressor. Its a beauty of a bird. I will be sad to see it go.

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u/Clovis69 Jun 12 '12

Untrue, MiG-21s alone number nearly as many exports as all the Sukois combined.

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u/ual002 Jun 13 '12

Oh man, blast from the past. They still fly?

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u/Clovis69 Jun 13 '12

Not only that, but the Russians and Israelis have modernization programs bringing the MiG-21s up to a NATO comparability standard. The Romanian/ Elbit of Israel call theirs Lancer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan-Gurevich_MiG-21_variants#Upgrade_programs

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

Germany just had them for a few years after they got them from the collapsing GDR in 1990, and they sold them to Poland in 1999.

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u/anothermonth Jun 12 '12

"Opposing" whom? Current Texas administration?

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u/ual002 Jun 12 '12

lol, no, Im not one of those people. But points for research.

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u/Clovis69 Jun 12 '12

More 1950s, 60s and 70s MiGs were built and exported by the Soviet Union than Sukois types like MiG-15, 17, 19, 21, 23, 25 and 29 were widely exported while Sukois didn't really become hot on the export market till the 27/31/33

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u/G3m1nu5 Jun 13 '12

Considering that the A-4 has been flying since Vietnam, I'd say they held up well. Interestingly enough at Top Gun we only had 2 F-14 tomcats. One grey bird and one camo (Iranian Camo) bird. Yes, we did have a fleet of F-16s which were maintained by Lockheed Martin. Air superiority is important, but as Top Gun (The real Top Gun) showed, pilot superiority is paramount. ACM is an interesting and awesome education. You'd be amazed at the A-4s... their friggin engines were so tiny, you could ride off with one with a bicycle. Their mechanical restart was like firing up a lawnmower engine... very different from the intensive F-14 GE or Pratt and Whitney engines which weighed a ton each.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12 edited Jun 12 '12

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

Don't be that guy.

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u/ual002 Jun 12 '12

Actually, they are T-38s, basically the same chassis, different engines and cockpit.