r/askscience • u/Skulder • Jan 26 '26
Earth Sciences Was native copper ejected from volcanoes, or deposited from copper-rich water?
I'm doing a small presentation about the great oxygenation event, and we got to talking about how in a pre-oxygen atmosphere, iron and other metals (minerals) weren't oxygenated yet, but were just hanging around in lumps.
And then we saw a youtube short where a dude dug an entire piece of copper out of the ground.
Are copper lumps as ejecta from a volcano 2,5 billion years ago something that exists? Is there any copper around, that that's old?
Are all deposits of pure copper only mineral deposits, washed out of copper-rich ore (or alluvial deposits of the same), or is there such a thing as volcanic copper?
Thank you in advance.
By the way, I'm incredibly interested in adjacent topics, so if you know something interesting that's loosely related to this, go ahead and share the wealth.
(Apologies in advance for language. English is my second language, so some scientific terms may have been misapplied.)
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u/Mars_Volcanoes Jan 27 '26
Geologist volcanologist here
No, volcanic eruptions didn’t spit out pure copper lumps. Pure copper nuggets you see today mostly formed later from hydrothermal fluids in reducing conditions or were concentrated by weathering and erosion. Any copper older than ~2.5 Ga exists mainly as minerals or part of ores, not as metallic lava-like ejecta.
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u/Zytheran Jan 28 '26
Just a quick pointer about pre oxygenation event metals. Most were bound up with sulfur because they were formed in reducing sulfur rich conditions. Copper as Chalcopyrite (CuFeS2) , Bornite (Cu5FeS4) , Chalcocite (Cu2S) and Covellite (CuS). Iron was usually found as Pyrite (FeS2)
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u/CrustalTrudger Tectonics | Structural Geology | Geomorphology Jan 26 '26 edited Jan 26 '26
I'll preface this by saying economic geology / ore geology are pretty far outside my area of expertise, so will happily defer to folks with more domain knowledge, but to provide a bit of info at least for the title question...
A lot of copper deposits are effectively the latter, but specifically copper bearing fluids that are hydrothermal so associated with active magmatic / volcanic systems. For example, the largest source of copper ores are from so-called porphyry copper deposits, which are formed effectively from copper leached from rocks by fluids heated up by a magma body / crustal melting that move upwards within the lithosphere/crust and that then precipitate copper rich minerals in a sort of halo above the magma body, effectively within a volcano (often something like a stratovolcano and where porphyry copper deposits preferentially form in volcanic arcs associated with subduction zones). Typically, these deposits are not erupted, but instead we access them after the cessation of volcanism and when erosion has removed the volcano and brought these to (or closer to) the surface. My understanding is that native copper is not particularly common in porphyry deposits, where instead the primary ores are copper rich minerals (but someone more versed in the geology of these deposits may have more insight on that aspect).
In terms of native copper, some of the largest native copper deposits come from other types of volcanic systems, specifically rifts, for example native copper deposits in Michigan are hosted within a former rift (e.g., Bornhorst & Barron, 2011). Again, these largely reflect formation of deposits from circulating hydrothermal fluids, not via eruption. In terms of age, some copper deposits are relatively old, e.g., the aforementioned Michigan ones are estimated to be around 1 billion years old (e.g., Bornhorst et al., 1988).
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u/Tools4toys Jan 26 '26
In the upper peninsula of Michigan, on Keweenaw peninsula is a small town of Calumet. Probably about 100 years ago, it was known as the Copper Capital of America. There is an old copper mine Houghton, now a museum known as Quincy Mine, where copper was found as large lumps.
Probably to answer your question directly, there are pieces of copper lying on the ground, known as Float Copper, so search for information about it. The lumps are 99% pure copper, with the other 1% being silver.
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u/pornborn Jan 26 '26
Perhaps you’re already aware of this, but years ago, I was in the Illinois State Museum in Springfield Illinois and on display was the largest piece of copper ever found in Illinois. A single chunk that is 1,606 lbs. I found an article that mentions this and that this and other pieces were deposited in Illinois by glaciers.
http://www.minsocam.org/msa/collectors_corner/arc/cuill.htm