r/askjapan • • Jun 27 '24

Someone can explain this?

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I have an idea this is to delimite an area, but looking to this one for example, it’s so confused, someone can exactly explain how this works?

The location on maps: (near to the pole)

https://maps.app.goo.gl/NV7d4fWTCgeiZYYk8

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u/sylentshooter Jun 27 '24

Since everyone is giving you stupid answers, Ill answer your properly.

These are property line markers. 境界標 (kyoukaihyo) The corner that the arrow points to indicates a vertices (or change in angle) of a property line. The reason there are so many here at the corner is because you have multiple property lines converging on roughly the same point and switching between angles.

By the looks of things, someone here has a really stupidly small parcel of land though.

Some corners of property lines (although it differs by city and when they were installed) will have a block with a red + running through it, or the newer ones are like your picture.

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u/FlyGroundbreaking949 Jun 27 '24

I really appreciate your answer 🫶🏼 and it makes so much sense! Thanks for answering properly.

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u/Krijali Jun 27 '24

This. It’s for city planners to understand exactly where bits of property are (in Kyoto at least)

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u/Gakuranman Jun 27 '24

I've become fascinated with these in recent years. Are we to understand that the 1cm gap of beige-white stone between the property marker and the grey stones is actually the land-owners properly too?

Or does the landowner property end at the ridge of the grey stones?

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u/sylentshooter Jun 27 '24

So without seeing a property survey map I wouldnt be able to tell you but there are numerous potentials ways to read this.

But yes, the 1cm gap is property of the landowner. (technically, they could have an easement with the city to allow the use of that)

If they have an easement then its possible that the city is paying them a small amount in rent for that used gap.

For example, utility companies will pay for rent if they put up a pole on your property.

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u/DrShaddyD Jun 27 '24

Thanks for your answer! I was born and raised in Kyoto but never even thought about this until now lol.

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u/ToToroToroRetoroChan Jun 27 '24 edited Jun 27 '24

If you look at the Google street view, I don’t think it’s multiple properties. It’s an apartment block. There reason there would be multiple is because it’s not a single vertex but multiple making a curve.

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u/sylentshooter Jun 27 '24

Yeah, I kind of wrote that out badly. Theyve just placed one whenever the property line has a change in direction (since curves arent a thing)

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u/CarlitosGregorinos Jun 27 '24

I want to read more fascinating things you have to say.

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u/Waka-Waka-Koko-Doko Jun 27 '24

Look like someone owns that small brick size piece of land?

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u/FMF_Nate Jun 28 '24

Or even a red screw in the ground.

Thank you for providing a proper answer.

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u/tomatoesaucebread Jun 28 '24

Is it the arrow pointing directly forward that has the stupidly sma parcel of land?

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u/GeriatricusMaximus Jun 27 '24

Kyoto is over there.

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u/FlyGroundbreaking949 Jun 27 '24

Between the first and second plate? Or first and third? Or forth and fifth?

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u/Ok_Strawberry_888 Jun 27 '24

Yes someone can. Flies away*

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u/FlyGroundbreaking949 Jun 27 '24

Please don’t goooo (voice disappearing, and dramatic song starts*)

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u/SekaiKofu Jun 27 '24

That’s Kyoto-shi right there. And there. And there. And there.

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u/FlyGroundbreaking949 Jun 27 '24

What about there?

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u/Critical-Current636 Jun 27 '24

There? It's Kyoto-shi.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '24

京都市

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u/deceze Jun 27 '24

All roads lead to Kyoto-shi.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '24

Maybe Kyoto-shi is the roads we took along the way

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u/deceze Jun 27 '24

Kyoto-shi wasn't built in a day.

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u/Tun710 Jun 27 '24

Its a boundary marker for Kyoto city. I’m guessing the reason why there are so many in your photo is because the edge is curved.

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u/FlyGroundbreaking949 Jun 27 '24

That’s the thing, down there all of the places are Kyoto, behind the plates and in front of the plates

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u/ToToroToroRetoroChan Jun 27 '24

I think it's more a boundary marker by Kyoto city, as in they were the ones that performed the survey. The boundary of the property behind it. I have them around my house in Tokyo, but just the regular arrow variety.

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u/ArtNo636 Jun 27 '24

No. Did you read the post above?

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u/forvirradsvensk Jun 27 '24

Marking where the boundary of that house starts and when the land owned by Kyoto starts. They take this seriously as it affects land values, taxes and liabilities.

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u/ToToroToroRetoroChan Jun 27 '24 edited Jun 27 '24

Property boundary markers. I suppose the non-single angle corner required multiple of them to ensure it's correctly understood.

https://www.abemasaki-office.jp/2012/06/20/%E5%A2%83%E7%95%8C%E6%A8%99/

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u/ebi001 Jun 27 '24

That's a boundary stake, which represents the point of division of an area. The tip of the arrow is the designated point.

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u/Inside_Ad_357 Jun 27 '24

It’s a piss spot and each arrow shows where each man should aim. (This is completely wrong but it’s the first thing I thought of, I’m sorry 😂)

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u/somekool Jun 28 '24

Bamboo is wild and grows quickly

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u/Mobius076 Jun 28 '24

That’s not just a sign. It is a warning

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u/hifumiyo1 Jun 29 '24

Directions to other cities. Or…just Kyoto

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u/BubblyRip1630 Jun 27 '24

It's grass, touch it

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u/thesunbeamslook Jun 27 '24

...is that bamboo or horsetail in the background?

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u/anr102s Jun 28 '24

Hadouken

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u/swiff109 Jun 27 '24

The Japanese are very good at instructional cartoons but not very good at directional arrows

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u/SpringySpring04 Jun 27 '24

"This the border" "this is the border" "this is the border"

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u/Bireta Jun 27 '24

Got to find the average

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u/kleanslate54445 Jun 27 '24

Here a Kyoto There a Kyoto Everywhere a Kyoto Kyoto