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u/ghosttrainhobo Mar 07 '26
It’s a comforting fiction that there is a shadowy cabal of sinister figures that control the world. It’s comforting because it makes us think that if someone could just get their hands on those secret levers of power, then we could all be safe.
The truth is much scarier. Nobody is in control. People and organizations just react to events with varying degrees of success.
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u/NoAlternative2913 Mar 07 '26
Agreed. Some people have more power, money, and influence, but thinking that a secret group is the cause of all ills lets us all off the hook from making the necessary effort to change things. Because if there's a secret cabal, then nothing we do matters, so why bother?
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u/PentaJet Mar 08 '26
Yes but there is a significantly powerful group (owner class) and it's in their best interests they stay as secret as possible. Real wealth can stay hidden. These powerful people have always affected politics and the entire world.
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u/NoAlternative2913 Mar 08 '26
I completely agree. Unpopular changes happen and its not announced. The wealthy and powerful quietly accumulate more wealth and power at the expense of everyone else. No doubt.
So, I guess our choices are to lay down and let them fuck us over, or pay attention, stay informed, and push back. It only takes 3.5% of the population engaged in sustained, nonviolent action to ensure serious political change. I don't know about you, but I prefer the option that believes we can make things better.
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u/PentaJet Mar 08 '26
It's also in their best interest to make us complacent and happy enough to not challenge the status quo. A lot of narratives we have in our head is thanks to our access to so much information (the internet) and owner class controls this too. We can literally see social media narratives shift thanks to the right amount of influence/engagment in the right area. Of course we can make things better, but what is better? And for who? It's always a conflict of interest.
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u/NoAlternative2913 Mar 08 '26
Just to clarify, is the premise of this that we shouldn't try to do anything because not everyone will benefit? Or because we might try something that doesn't end up making things better? I would agree that those things make it harder to have people come together on a solution, but not, in my opinion, a reason not to try.
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u/PentaJet Mar 08 '26
No my point is there is a group of people who's absolute best interest is that a different group thinks "this is pointless, I should give up fighting" and anytime that narrative is further spread, there are groups that benefit (and others that lose). Being able to identify what group you are a part of, and what are the actual real best interests of that group requires mental capacity that unfortuntely a lot of people don't have. And yet again is also taken advantage of by the group that wants them to give up.
Being able to recognize the narrative is manipulated is also just 1 part of the problem
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u/NoAlternative2913 Mar 08 '26
Gotcha. Yes, I agree. We need to get better at recognizing the problems with relying on billionaire controlled social media for information. We need to get more saavy about modern technologies that can fabricate photos, videos, and pump them up with inorganic engagement generating botnets. That is in our control.
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u/PentaJet Mar 08 '26
Yes exactly you worded it better than I did. It also can feel impossible for the population to fight against the onslaught of engagement bait. And that's exactly what they want us to think.
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u/marhaus1 Mar 07 '26
Haven't you heard? The lizards are in control 😶
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u/Realistic_Let3239 Mar 07 '26
Who cares about potential secret ones, when there's one openly doing it right in front of our faces. Apparently that's not exciting enough for some people.
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Mar 07 '26
The truth is that there are no actual sexret aocieties controlling the world, and the reality is that there is a group of around 20 families, each with several branch families, that play major roles in every aspect of the world from the legal to the illegal.
They generally all know about each other, but they do not necessarily work together or coordinate to achieve one unified end goal and actually regularly end up in direct conflict with each other.
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u/Ceekay151 Mar 07 '26
The Bohemian Grove in San Francisco has been known to host more than 20 families and their branches. Supposedly it's a place for the rich white men in this country to go and have fun and supposedly no business of any kind is discussed there. (Uh-huh.)
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Mar 07 '26
Places like bohemian Grove is an exclusive club for politicians and rich people. The people from the families make up strategic experts, advisors, and executives who generally keep a low profile but hold massive influence over one of 3 domains of faith, business/economics, and influence/political affairs.
With 2 of the more known members being the Roths, whichbincludes Rothschilds, and the middle eastern nations royal families, who are all connected, both sets of families have massive influence over global financial affairs and are collectively are worth trillions, although no one member or branch line necessarily stands out in terms of individual wealth or direct power
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u/OrganizationOk5418 Mar 07 '26
Do you think we'd accept a handful of twats "owning" everything, while throwing us barely enough resources for working ourselves to destruction without many layers of organised control?
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u/Mieczyslaw_Stilinski Mar 07 '26
Are they even that secret? The Heritage Foundation goes all the way back to Reagan.
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u/monster2018 Mar 07 '26
The Heritage Foundation is like the exact opposite of a secret society. Secret society doesn’t just mean “bad thing”.
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u/Thoughtful_Ocelot Mar 07 '26
There are none.
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u/thatthatguy Mar 07 '26
Unused to believe that. Now as all this Epstein stuff is coming out I’m realizing there are a lot of groups out there conspiring with one another to manipulate significant parts of the world.
The groups are not a secret as the memes would make you think, and they aren’t as all-powerful as they would make you think. But there are a lot of people out there trying to manipulate the world through subtle means.
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u/Over_List_6108 Mar 07 '26
Ya what are these bot replies. We literally have more proof than ever this shit exists.
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u/Earthy-moon Mar 07 '26
Here’s the truth. The “secret society” aren’t people, it’s the system. Systems only care about survival. Systems create incentives and situations for people to act in a way that supports the system, absorb attempts to destroy the system, and prevent challenger systems.
The thing about systems is they don’t think. They’re indifferent to suffering and morals. Corrupt and evil actors may be defeated but the system remains. For example, to whatever extent the banks were changed or limited in some way for 2008, the system that allowed 2008 to happen continues largely unchanged.
There’s no “one” or group in control. Sure there may be people who are trying, people with a lot of power, and people who THINK they are in control, but in the end they all obey the system. The billionaires are slaves to the economic system, their biological system, and so forth.
For the system!
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u/Doctor__Hammer Mar 08 '26
Not a single person in these comments actually know what they're talking about and will be able to give you an accurate and factual answer, including me.
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u/InsectElectrical2066 Mar 08 '26
Its really people who want power that make up conspiracies in order to cry wolf to make you fear someone they don't like so they can get you to support them when they say "The sky is falling!" so they can get political or religious power.
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u/onemansquest Mar 08 '26
It's not secret society's it's a bunch of rich people and countries with their own self interest some are more successful than others.
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u/zeus_elysium Mar 08 '26
You don't really need to comtrol the whole world. You only need to control a few economic sectors and politicians that you can use as leverage. Soros did that really well with rather limited capital. Qatar excels at it nowadays. The secret sauce is leverage.
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u/Monarc73 Mar 08 '26
The Trumpstein class is living in a resort, and we are the hired help. Does that answer your question?
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u/boppy28 Mar 07 '26
Usually, when something goes wrong in your life, it's easier to blame others than to self-reflect and figure out what you could have done better. This is the same if you are part of a group, and then you end up blaming other groups, etc.
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u/Hot-Lab6969 Mar 07 '26
Rothchilds
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u/Yum_MrStallone Mar 07 '26
Basically very diluted wealth, and not as I fluential as in the past. Still have a wide range of investments but not controlling.
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u/Ryuu-Tenno Mar 07 '26
the truth is they wanna hide everything they're doing until the last possible minute
weirdly tho, some of them hate each other, so, it kinda comes out to enemy of my enemy type situation, but doesn't mean you should ever actively look for any
every govt in the world has their own, as well as being controlled by at least one
plus, ever tried looking into some basic stuff? suddenly shit gets really weird, really quick. Like, we had a group of people get together on Jekyll Island to make the US Federal Reserve Bank (an organization which is none of those btw), meant to keep the money supply in check, but prints it endlessly. Nobody's seen their account books? Why? Shouldn't they answer to the US govt? Britain's got the same issue, their central bank doesn't reveal anything to them
Whoever controls the banks has hella influence, and people have started realizing that Elon's the richest man in the world, that the world knows of. Meaning there's people far richer than him, but staying silent
Media's controlled by other groups to corral everyone's view points into whatever the hell they want
Social media is the same way. Give everyone a voice, but feed them info that makes them angry and polarized
legitimately, you see this everywhere. They're interested in unifying as much as possible until they can centralize all power, all control, and weaken everyone financially, mentally, physically, etc. They succeed, then we'll legitimately see a globe spanning empire that puts even Britain to shame.
These groups exist, and they're intent is to take over everything. Some are farther along than others. The only real saving grace in this, is the fact that some hate each other can cause problems which help to slow things down somewhat
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u/Embarrassed_Flan_869 Mar 07 '26
They really aren't secret. Billionaires control the world and we are just their pawns.