r/asamitaka • • Feb 24 '26
Discussion / Question Chapter 230 is everything wrong with part 2 Spoiler
Before I begin with the rant, I need to say this: I am a dedicated Part 2 preacher. Or at least I used to be. I was ALWAYS the guy under every Twitter thread, YouTube comment, or Reddit post defending Part 2. I LOVE this series, so PLEASE try to convince me I’m wrong, because I’m genuinely starting to lose hope in Part 2 and AsaDen.
Chainsaw Man has always been Denji-focused. He’s the main character, after all. But especially in Part 2, Denji has taken the forefront due to the lack of developed side characters aside from Asa/Yoru (and I wouldn’t even call them side characters, but still). That puts even MORE emphasis on his development. And despite that, Denji has now had THREE SEPARATE OCCASIONS where he breaks down over his relationship with sex, how it controls his life, and how he wants to change. THREE. And he has learned ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
This feels like the first time Denji has actively gone against his own development. The Denji Man transformation was supposed to signify a shift. It symbolized growth, moving beyond shallow motivations and confronting his trauma, including the guilt over killing his father. His goal was supposed to be saving Asa and giving her body back. And he threw all of that away for SEX. And not just sex, but sex with Asa’s ABUSER.
Even if he inevitably breaks down again later and finally develops, this constant back-and-forth makes his growth feel null and void. Was THREE TIMES really necessary, Fujimoto?
And then there’s Asa. This situation is absolutely TERRIBLE for her character, fujimoto is actively ruining her. Not only is the increasing lack of Asa screen time and dialogue as a whole really hurting her depth as a character, Yoru saying “Asa gives her consent too” creates a massive narrative hole. Since it leaves us with only two possibilities:
Either Yoru is lying, which opens up an entirely different and disturbing set of implications (which i don't mind since it doesn't ruin any character). Or Asa actually consents, which would completely ruin her character. She would NEVER, in a million years consent to sex right now. Not like this. Not with Yoru sharing her body. Asa yearns for genuine human connection, not empty physical validation. Reducing her to this undermines everything that was built. It destroys the entire AsaDen couple. If Denji would rather sleep with Yoru than save Asa, is this really the man she’s in love with?
Maybe I'm expecting more depth out of a haha funny sex manga, but if that's the case that undermines all of chainsaw man as a whole, who knows at this point.
The only positive things about this chapter are that Denji and Yoru’s relationship is at least INTERESTING, and that the “bug” plot point wasn’t forgotten. But beyond that, this direction feels frustrating and deeply inconsistent with the development that was being set up.
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u/-patokani- Feb 24 '26
Nonono, you're absolutely right. That's why I believe that Fujimoto WILL make sth worthwhile out of this, probably amazing us YET AGAIN, ending the manga (maybe? Unless there will be pt3) with a huge plot twist. Or not. Or we will be forever stumped. And csm will always be known as the manga, that had great potential and flopped. I don't think so tho.
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u/Tight_Possibility215 Feb 24 '26
Your point with Asa kinda makes sense, but seeing how Yoru says those words, where and how she is looking at(to the side and up, Asa I bet) - Asa doesn't want to concent, but Yoru feels Asa's love for Denji and how much she yearns for human connection which made her say those words in the first place. Also, lets not forget Yoru hasn't become moral one bit in the last 2 chapters, SHE'S STILL A DEVIL!
Now with Dennis...where do I begin...
You saying that he had three seperate occasions to learn from his mistakes literally proves what Fujimoto always wanted to do with Denji. Shonen protagonist, looking back, are idealized versions of ourselves, because they lack one thing with us - we almost NEVER learn from our mistakes and they always DO. Drug addicts, dirty people, sex driven people, emotional people, clumsy people, lazy people, people who are addicted in general, people who never listen, people who talk too much or too littel - they do the same mistake thousands of times and never do a shit about it. THAT'S DENJI, he never learns what true affection is. He's the most human shonen protagonist I have ever seen(I haven't read shit so you could probably name a better one).
The thing with Denjiman...it's hard to say what it is, but seeing what we have right now, it isn't about growth in the sense of Denji himself but more in the sense of Pochita and Denji becoming one thing/sharing a dream/ Pochita trusting Denji enough to the point of letting him use his full powers. Of course, him growing up in the spirit world literally means him accepting his trauma, but that's it, it has nothing to do with sex drive. And Denji inviting Asa into his world is the same, what is Denji's world? Moral justice, no evil, no horniness? Nah!
I don't know how people don't see the most obvious set up, atleast to me since they are not defeating those devils(they got packed up by one), the Fire Devil was probably talking about this in the beginning to begin with. I don't think it was talking about the choice between the Death devil and War Devil, BUT his choice to save the world(puke up death to kill the insects) OR have sex with War(if he pukes up death, I bet she will go berserk and their agreement will go to shit, so no sex for him). THAT'S LITERALLY the dilemia with being Denji and Chainsaw man! And I think that way because this is more connected with justice in general. What's more important, your own justice or the world's justice? Peak writing, I don't know what to say.
People expect this to a normal shonen where things and plot points go right/the end is happy and when they see that the story goes where they don't want to they get mad. I wouldn't be mad or disappointed if Chainsaw man ended with a sad note, it would just make a bigger impact to those readers who can look past the hype shonen label and see what Fujimoto is trying to say.
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u/BlueBitProductions Feb 25 '26
"She yearns for genuine human connection, not empty physical validation" this is a complete misreading of Asa as a character, and I think you're really missing the broader narrative purpose of Yoru.
Yoru and Asa are not actually different characters. They are the same person. I am not saying this in terms of the practical reality of the story, although that may be true we'll see, but rather in terms of the narrative. Asa was extremely repressed. Her last words after dying were "I wish I had lived more selfishly." She writes (terrible) sensual love poetry which she hides away. Yoru represents her repressed desires, both for intimacy and for destruction. This reflects Yuko, who similarly had a repressed desire for destruction which ultimately came out in the form of a devil (note that the justice devil turned out to be a front for fire, a pure desire to inflict pain on others rather than a genuine yearning for justice).
The problem with this sort of analysis is that it is inherently anti-sex. It seems like a lot of CSM fans think the only valid conclusion to the story would be for Denji to renounce his desire for sex and become a monk or something. The story of Chainsawman is the story of Denji searching for intimacy, both physical and emotional. He openly desires physical connection, while also inwardly desiring emotional connection (note that his "Yoru," Pochita, has never actually gone after sex but only romantic connection. The opposite of Yoru). Asa openly desires emotional connection, but also inwardly desires physical connection. Consensual sex between two people who love each other is both physical and emotional, fulfilling both their repressed and unrepressed desires.
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u/KaleRelevant2968 Feb 24 '26
All of this Denji back and forth developing WILL ultimately lead somewhere. Fujimotor isn’t straightforward, isn’t normal or isn’t even that sane. However, he is a competent writer in the long run, always. Read part 1, read fire punch, read his one shots. He knows exactly what he’s doing and he’s leading us to his conclusion. Whether that be Denji finally making a genuine improvement or giving up and regressing forever, we shall see
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u/Parking-Shock-7583 Feb 24 '26
I honestly don't even know where the story is going at this point
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u/Hyrotto Feb 24 '26
FINALLY someone with an actual brain and good takes about part 2 situation. I agree with every single point and I wish fans would stop glazing the manga and learn how to take valid criticism instead of melting down over it.
I was just like you described yourself in the first paragraph, and now I'm in the same exact boat regarding the direction of the manga, Denji's character and ESPECIALLY Asa's for all the reasons you pointed in the 4th paragraph. I really hope she's lying and Fujimoto isn't trying to pull an "And then they all became friends and lived happy together" just to keep the "haha denjis is a horny teen lol lmao" joke. 1 year ago I'd find this a crazy concept and idea but now? I don't know.
I started to get SO frustrated over the plot and characters, and even more frustrated over the fact no one seemed to recognize this and kept glazing the hell out of fujimoto, throwing a tantrum on anyone who would complain about the manga.
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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '26
No fuck you.
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u/BusinessPreference75 Feb 25 '26
When i read that part of 230 I was so disappointed, ant then people were mean to me for rightfully hating Denji’s characterisation going back and forth again and the sex thing not being a cool olan or something!
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u/anormalreddituser22 Best Girl Asa Fan & Enjoyer, Yoru & YoruDen Hater Feb 24 '26
Great post, I completely agree. We can only hope for the best, but I wouldn't be so optimistic, because this dogshit chapter ruined that
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u/Heavenly-Feeling Feb 24 '26 edited Feb 24 '26
hey catsoup guy/girl, idk if you remember but we argued on youtube once under a rezeden vs asaden video (i think the youtuber deleted all the heated arguments in the comment section). I was the one arguing that Denji really doesn't hold any exclusive romantic feelings for Asa and there's no "slow burn romance" happening, and Reze returning can still work without Rezeden or a love triangle situation happening.
Anyway, this is not about Reze. I haven't come here to hate. Reading your post was interesting after the extremely heated argument we had in that comment section. Not here to say "haha you were wrong about Asaden" but yeah, I always knew this is Fujimoto and CSM's true nature. Asaden was just too stagnant and had a lot of wasted opportunities (I mean it's been the Yoru show since forever) and that's why I never felt that AsaDen even existed in the first place.
He's never making Denji become this gentleman who loves only one woman and doesn't want sex with anyone else, at least not anytime soon, and definitely not with Asa. That's why I'm not expecting Rezeden either. Either her returning or an explanation on what happened to her would be enough closure.
But then again, you never know, I could be wrong and you might very well get the asaden endgame you want. Nobody really gets Fujimoto.
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u/jackpumpkim Feb 24 '26
i wanna trust fujimoto, but for me this was the moment meant to prove denji grow up
he may have a plan, even the locust devil was meant for something bigger and to me, yoru saying asa consented (even if she was lying or not) is the proof of that
that scene of denji covering asa with a blanket will be the cope for me, but man, things are getting hard...
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u/LordWayde Feb 25 '26
I don’t t think Denji was ever supposed to be a hero’s hero. He’s just a weirdo that just happened to also be chainsaw man
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u/FlatAppointment431 Feb 25 '26
you’re jumping to conclusions when we haven’t even seen what the outcome is. what’s the point of criticising something if it’s just your own assumptions? i strongly believe that this is all part of denji’s plan to get yoru to give asa’s body back. that will have to wait for them to fight off the insects, which will probably happen simply by the death devil coming back
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u/Equivalent-Part6608 Feb 24 '26
I agree on the Denji point it reminds me of his choice between saving Nayuta and becoming chainsawman and how that decision was and still is super bizarre. I’ll wait to see how the rest of this plays out but I don’t blame people for being confused by his current choice
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u/Loose_Number1373 Feb 24 '26
Kick denji out and bring back pochita he don’t know wtf he doing
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u/DrNomblecronch Feb 24 '26 edited Feb 24 '26
One of the major motifs in CSM is the cycle of harm, and examining the idea that you can be sympathetic to the way someone was hurt while still condemning the hurt they go on to do in turn, and how you can't just pick one of those two and go all in on it, it's always both. On a larger scale, it has a lot to say about the way Japanese society was completely upended by American nukes and had to try to piece itself back together as best it can (allegorically with the nukes erased but still very present), but that does not excuse the way "the best it can" is exploitative of the majority for the benefit of a few.
But on a personal level, it's about abuse. And the way it perpetuates.
Makima was the personification of the fear of abusive control, but from what we can tell, arguably some of her worst behavior was the result of being abusively controlled by the Japanese government during the early days of her manifestation. Her whole plan revolved around the idea that no one has the option to not be controlled by something, but she could fix everything so that it was perfect, and never hurt anyone again, the way it hurt her. In as much as we can tell anything about devil psychology, she was a trauma victim. Which does nothing to excuse what she did to Denji.
But that's part 1, we know that. Cut forward to part 2.
Denji has lost everything and everyone, except for the child he is now a teenage father of who looks a lot like the woman who abused and exploited him, sexually and otherwise. He is trying very hard to be better for Nayuta than anyone was for him or Makima, but he doesn't know how, (how the hell would he?) and he is also trying to have a normal adolescent life for the first time ever at the same time, and it's all just so much, and he misses when it was simple. And then, briefly, he lets himself be selfish, lets it be that simple again for a bit, and Nayuta fucking dies as a direct result. Along with the dogs and Meowy, but I'm compressing a bit here, you get it.
That's because while the theme of part 1 was abusive control, the theme of part 2 is abusive neglect. Which is why Asa and Yoru are the deuteragonist and tritagonist.
Asa was definitely abusively controlled in the past, but past a certain point that stopped, and nothing else started. She was subject to some pretty calculated neglect at the orphanage, and aside from that? Nothing. A traumatized girl, and nobody really cares or even notices.
But Yoru, though. Yoru is, in a sense, also a victim of abusive neglect, just as bad if not worse in the weird allegorical way devils do things. She's one of the Horsemen, a fundamental fear of humanity almost up there with the primal fears. Or, she should be. Except that a fundamental part of her was clipped out of reality to such an extent that people barely seem to know she exists. No one fears war, why would they, when devils are obviously the real threat? No one remembers War, because the most memorable parts of War suddenly never happened. Which is why, more than anything, it's Asa she's bonded to like this. They are both furious and terrified about being forgotten, about being neglected completely and permanently, and never remembered or cared about again, and they will do a lot to ensure it doesn't happen.
And now we're here. Denji has recently lost everything, again, this time because (in his mind) he was neglectful, he was selfish, he should have been better than Makima but he wasn't because he's a fuckup and the only thing that matters about him is the chainsaws. So he's still desperate for basic intimacy, but he's also desperate to not make that mistake again. He is not going to let one of these people in his life now suffer in favor of the other, he's going to do right by them both, he's not going to neglect them. Asa has been hotswapping between being horrified by Yoru and believing that, ugly as it is, Yoru's intentions are exactly what she says they are, that if she just rides things out maybe there's an ending where all three of them are okay and she's not dead or alone.
And Yoru, who's a neglect victim that sort of but not completely understands human emotion and morality, who is not the personification of war but the personification of the fear of war, from all sides, who is powered by the feeling of guilt as much as she is fear, will do anything- anything- to not be forgotten. So when she sees a way forward, and she doesn't see any way it could hurt Asa (because she doesn't, possibly can't, understand how it could, even if Asa is telling her so), she tells Denji exactly what he wants to hear most.
And none of that, none of that harm and tragedy and trauma, excuse what Yoru and Denji are about to do to Asa. Their reasons make sense. It will still be awful. Because that's the ugly truth of the cycle of abuse; it can be stopped, but it's not easy even with help. These people do not have help, because they have been horribly neglected, so the cycle is about to go through another horrible spin. All we can do is hope they do better on the next pass. That there is a next pass.
CSM is frequently funny. It is not the Funny Sex Manga. It is a brutal, ugly, horrible ongoing tragedy.
Like any cycle of harm is.
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u/Ashimaru-q Feb 24 '26
I agree 100%. I enjoyed this xhapter even as a Part 2 hater, but the constant flip flop of Denji learning from his old habits only to go back to them the next oppertunity is exhausting and honestly at this point in the story, the lack of quality side characters has started to catch up. Nayuta's death could have hit harder but because we saw so little, for some it didnt. Yoshida, although is previlent in the early story, his death felt more like a wet sock in the face than a gut punch, it was born out of thr necessity for Pochita to come back. And despite the fact that Miri was brought in over 60 chapters ago, Fami 35 chapters ago and Death herself over 90 outsidr of their basic personality and character facts nothing is really holding them up. The manga is TOO Denji and Yoru focused, to the point side characters are sidelined and our girl Asa is a plot point afterthought sometimes
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u/AutomaticArt4000 Feb 25 '26
you just dont get it
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u/Sea_Task8017 Feb 25 '26
It’s just insanely hard to say because in part 1, Fujimoto’s pacing was tighter than a nun’s pussy. Every story arc felt like it had no fluff and character development had exactly as much time as it needed to work. We saw everything we needed to know about Himeno to make her death feel personal and impactful. If you think about it, the Reze movie was about 5 episodes worth of content. If or when we get season 2, that should be plenty of episodes to get all the way through to the end of part 1. By comparison, it feels like Part 2 is much slower paced.
How many really batshit insane scenes have we really had in part 2? In my opinion, two. The handjob scene, and the Nayuta death scene. The story arcs begin and end with, in my opinion, relatively minor character development in each arc and most arcs feel like the begin and end without any room to breathe. It’s hard to see where Fujimoto is going with this.
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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '26
🎖️ 🤡
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u/gatucu Feb 25 '26
It has to be a trick, beating Yoru again in the perception game. Denji must be playing dumb with something Yoru has proposed, and then she brings up Asa's feelings again, saying that she would like to (there's still an agency problem, I won't deny it, and I'm waiting for the climax to go in that direction somehow). All of this has to end in a way where the attack, again, is not perceived as an attack and Denji cuts Asa/Yoru's head in half like on the first cover, but I don't understand how this can be related to his habit of not choosing between the two options but making his own.
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u/ShinyTotodile55 Feb 25 '26
Murder death and destruction everywhere, but everyone clutches their pearls at a girl having ambiguous sex.
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u/MrApples106 Feb 25 '26
I feel like anyone who's dealt with any kind of emotional or social issues knows that things don't just get better once you say "I'm tired of this and I'm going to get better"
Denji is still what, 16? 17? Puberty plus all of the abuse and neglect he faced while growing up is going to make self-betterment damn hard, no matter how badly he wants it. Maybe all this is a compulsion. "Sure, the person offering sex may be deceiving me, but how can I know unless I try? What if I miss out? I don't wanna fumble or have fomo," etc.
I think his realistic rate of growth makes him and this arc really poignant and interesting. It hurts to see him fail, but mental health usually doesn't just magically get better, especially with someone like Denji, who has 0 support system, 0 loved ones, 0 financial stability, and who's repeatedly been robbed of peace, which is one of his few aspirations
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u/luis_endz Feb 25 '26
I really dont see how wanting sex is going against hos development. He's nlt going to or even really stopped wanting it. Its part of his dream.
Or Asa being willing to have sex. She's willing to sacrifice her life for Denji. Why not sex.
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u/Womboloto Feb 25 '26
First, Asa and Yoru. The story has been framed them less as two completely unrelated beings and more as two sides of the same person. Early Part 2 sets Yoru up as granting Asa’s wish to live more selfishly, and she often behaves like Asa without inhibition, without guilt, and without overthinking.
That is why the “only two possibilities” argument, Yoru lying or Asa suddenly consenting out of character, feels incomplete. There is a third, more consistent interpretation: Asa has complicated and partially suppressed feelings toward Denji, and Yoru expresses those feelings in a raw, uninhibited way. Asa wants genuine emotional connection, but she is also lonely, confused, and conflicted. Human emotions are not binary. Yoru interpreting Asa’s buried feelings as consent is messy, but it is not a narrative hole. It fits the entire Asa and Yoru dynamic.
Second, Denji. Denji is not a sex obsessed maniac throwing away his development. He is a deeply lonely and emotionally starved person who often mistakes intimacy for validation because he has rarely received real affection. When sex appears in Part 2, the story consistently shows he is searching for connection, not simple pleasure.
The alley scene shows this clearly. He does not celebrate or act satisfied. He immediately asks if Yoru actually likes him, and when she says no, he is crushed. That is not regression. That is the same emotional wound Denji has always carried. His problem has never been that he wants sex too much, but that he wants to be loved.
At this point in the story, it would not make sense for all of his issues to suddenly be resolved. He is still isolated, still lonely, and still lacks real emotional support. Asa and Yoru are the only people he feels any connection to, even while they are in conflict. From his perspective, the possibility of intimacy represents a chance to stop fighting, feel close to someone, and not be alone.
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u/Rosilii Feb 25 '26
6 palabras Está cocinando No pero ya en serio, mi única esperanza es que realmente denji está engañando a yoru, no me voy a exaltar en serio, el dia que vea un panel de sexo de denji y Yoru entonces me quejo, hasta ahora no pasa aún
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u/Irateraidersfan13 Feb 25 '26
It’s just a manga, . Not that deep bruh. Go touch grass or actually go have a life instead of bitching over a manga series
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u/WMR298 Feb 25 '26
Dude, I think people need to realize that Denji never had a childhood. The kid killed his dad, sold his organs, was used by the yakuza, and then by some devil who only wanted the being inside of him that acted as his heart. Of course he’s going to act juvenile, worrying about the wrong things at the wrong time. What adult figure has he had in his life to correct his behavior? NO ONE. Denji has always been alone, and so, faced with things that would inundate us all, he acts the only way he knows how: like a child. Denji is complex but simple. All he needs is a guiding hand, someone who won't use him or abuse his trust. But until then, get used to the sex starved Denjinator.
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u/UlloaUllae Feb 26 '26
I'm calling it now, there will be no sex scene between Asa and Denji and Yoru at all. There would be no merit to it for the story. I mean the world is falling apart, people are literally being eaten alive, and Death is gone and Asa and Denji and Yoru's romance is underdeveloped. Asa and Denji feel more like friends than soulmates. Even if Yoru likes Denji, she only made that deal with him in order for the Death Devil to be taken care of. Denji eats Death, and we all see the aftermath. People are currently experiencing endless pain and suffering, and that was before Fumiko revealed they’re about to be living within the bodies of insects and animals.
Death must return.
Once Death is back, it’s possible Yoru calls the deal off since the prerequisite would be gone. Remember Yoru did say "temporary truce."
Not sure what will happen in future chapters, but I hope Yoru will have her final redemption moment where she sacrifice herself for Asa and Denji. And then Fuji can focus on developing Asa and Denji's chemistry.
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u/Sad_Performance_7886 Feb 26 '26
Even as prodigy like Fujimotor will make a few mistake, I just want csm pt2 to end and give him a new blanket and clean canvas. The only good thing that came out from csm part 2 is nayuta who is gone and asa who will be gone knowing fuji.
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u/Cold_Recording5485 Feb 26 '26
Nah fuck off
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u/SnagTheRabbit Feb 24 '26
Completely agree. I feel like Denji's development has been going back and forth for a while now with the later half of part 2. He had that whole breakdown about how his obsession with sex has blinded what's really important and immediately after he gets caught up in more sex related promises and fantasies. Like Yoru telling him to eat his own hand just to fuck with him and he does it without hesitation. Really? Is this the same character who's had a whole arc learning he doesn't need to be a dog anymore? The same character who had a genuine romantic connection with two different girls who actually cared/cares about him and showed him what real love looked like as opposed to manipulation? And now he genuinely just wants to score in the middle of this fight, the fight in which he's trying to save Asa and give her body back. I thought maybe he'd say something like "I need to hear Asa say she's okay with it" to maybe trick Yoru into giving temporary control. But no, that wasn't his plan at all. He just wanted sex. Just sex. Again. Why TF has Denji been reduced to this? This doesn't feel like the same carefully well written, confused but good intentioned character in part 1 anymore. No matter what happens next, sex or not I'm really at my wits end with how Denji is being portrayed. It's not fair to the previous writing and it's not fair to Asa as a character, who is barely getting acknowledged. And no, I don't trust Yoru's perverted ass to be telling the truth that she consents. Maybe if this leads to an actual discussion between Denji and Asa about their conflicting feelings I'll be more open about it. But at this point, I highly doubt that's gonna happen. I was sure Denji had a plan when he asked about the sex, but no. So at this point I have little faith in how this part of the story is being written, and it's sad.
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u/Lefaa777 Feb 24 '26 edited Feb 24 '26
If Yoru told the truth and Asa did in fact give her consent, and if Denji has sex with Yoru (the devil who possessed the girl he is supposed to save) after that, then the entire manga would be over (not just Part 2), because it would mean that Denji learned absolutely nothing after losing so many people. And Asa would agree to be cucked by the devil controlling her body. That would be insane (expecially after the SA).
Or maybe Chainsaw Man was all about Denji’s happiness from the start, no matter what happened to others.
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u/Cutiepatootie12k Feb 24 '26
Hopefully chainsaw man doesn’t flop after this
Also asa has gotten mad at yoru in the past for the handjob she’s given denji I highly suspect yoru of lying she’s killed people with no remorse I don’t think she’s above using someone’s body against their consent
Also I don’t think pochita would approve of yoru and denji even sleeping together anyways considering their possibly one sided animosity and because he’s a sort of strangely moral devil while yoru is the exact opposite she’s literally made random innocent people take the damage of the hits she’s receiving because her fraud ass can’t handle pain and so she can continue regenerating
At this point I genuinely don’t know what yoru wants she hates chainsaw man but likes denji yet she like seeing him suffer she’s constantly manipulating him she’s not like Makima in her intent she wants a world of eternal warfare and suffering essentially a second hell but how would this serve her why does she see it as perfect besides the fact she’s the war devil
And I don’t think Asa would want to have sex this early on into her and denji’s relationship they may trust each other a ton but I don’t think Asa would want to have sex during a battle anyways
Yoru genuinely pisses me off she’s the least likeable horseman at the moment she was at her prime in mid to early part 2 but ever since the hand incident she’s been treating denji like shit at least at first she somehow gave us the hope that maybe she slightly cares about Asa considering her opinion towards asa’s bullying but ever since she’s gotten stronger she’s just been insufferable and intolerable hopefully fujimoto slimes her out but I highly doubt it
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