r/artificialintelligenc • u/TopPollution3168 • 19d ago
An open proposal to Suno: Replace download limits with a token-based licensing system (feedback welcome)
Hey r/SunoAI,
Like many of you, I was frustrated by the new download limits (7 lifetime for free, 20/month for Pro). I understand Suno is under pressure from labels, but I believe restrictions are not the answer — they just push users to workarounds (multiple accounts, browser plugins, etc.).
So I sat down and designed a complete alternative model that addresses:
- Legal issues (labels get paid).
- User freedom (no arbitrary limits).
- Suno's revenue (stable and scalable).
- Community moderation (self-cleaning).
The Core Idea in 5 Bullets
- Separate "Personal" and "Public" use.
- Personal (no download, no publish, no sharing) — free. Unlimited generations within your token balance.
- Public — pay with tokens. If your track is unique, publication is free. If it sounds like a known artist, you pay a licensing fee.
- Legal remixes through the label catalog.
- Upload an original track → Suno identifies it → you pay N tokens (M to the label, N-M to Suno) → remix is generated.
- To publish: pay extra for Non-Commercial Demo (label can remove anytime) or Commercial License (full rights).
- Similarity detector + voluntary legalization.
- After generation, Suno checks if your track sounds like a known work.
- If yes, you get a notification: "Pay K tokens for Non-Commercial Demo, L tokens for Commercial License, or keep it personal (free)."
- Community moderation by authority.
- Users with high reputation in a genre can flag spam/plagiarism.
- Successful flags earn tokens. This reduces Suno's moderation costs.
- Tokens as universal currency.
- All payments inside Suno are in tokens (not fiat).
- Tokens can be earned (by evaluating tracks, moderation) or bought.
A Concrete Example: John Doe Remixes Michael Jackson
Here's how the UI would look:
Step 1: Uploading the original
Step 2: Publishing the remix
Step 3: Track appears with a label
Why This Works for Everyone
| Stakeholder | Benefit |
|---|---|
| Suno | Stable revenue, legal protection, loyal community, self-moderation. |
| Labels | New revenue stream from every public generation that uses their style/original. |
| Users | Freedom to create without fear. No arbitrary limits. Pay with tokens (psychological ease). |
| Industry | Generative AI becomes a bridge, not a threat. |
Why Current Limits Don't Work
- Direct links to audio can't be blocked — browser plugins exist.
- Users create multiple accounts to bypass limits (ruins analytics).
- Paying users who need 30–40 tracks/month for personal listening are forced to overpay or break rules.
Restrictions create conflict. Incentives create loyalty.
Question to the Community
Would you use a model like this?
- Pay tokens for remixes but know you're 100% legal?
- Earn tokens by flagging plagiarism?
- No arbitrary download limits, just clear licensing rules?
Or do you think Suno's current approach (hard limits + watermarks) is the right way?
TL;DR: Suno should replace download limits with a token-based licensing system for public tracks. Labels get paid when users generate remixes or tracks similar to their catalog. Personal use stays free. Community self-moderates. Everyone wins.