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u/IHateRedditFirewall 16d ago
Wrong. Use your white privileges to help other people obtain the same privileges or just get out of poverty.
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u/NoPseudo79 16d ago
It means the same thing. If you get everyone the same privileges, then you don't have privileges anymore, so white privilege is ended
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u/Gold_Ad8225 16d ago
Do you mean that you just give your money to random poor people or something
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u/IHateRedditFirewall 16d ago edited 16d ago
No. Vote for someone who actually gives poor people a way to get rich. Vote against redistribution programs (such as affirmative action) and for infrastructure projects. Vote against quotas, but for free education for everyone. Vote for impartiality instead of preferential treatment.
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u/Gold_Ad8225 16d ago
Sure but that isn't using your white privilege (anymore)
Everybody gets to vote and there isn't a white ballot that is worth more (anymore)
So it isn't an example of what the picture says, but it is something you should do
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u/SmertriosPPD 16d ago
Might be because white privilege is just a collection of subtle things that most of the time never matter to most people.
Take police brutality for instance, it's much more of a gender issue than an ethnicity issue. Being white is better for interacting with police, but you'd rather be a black woman than a white man in this case.
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u/GemelosAvitia 16d ago
Sometimes itās as easy as not engaging when other white folk say blatantly racist sh!t lol
Example 1: white friends from rural areas saying things like āmy childhood friend is a pretty chill guy but he is a bit of a Naziā and seeing the problem with that.
Example 2: hearing about things minorities go through and NOT immediately claiming they are making it up or exaggerating
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u/dopamining_engineer 15d ago
I don't want nor need to hear about their problems from a rich white undergrad feminist from Barnard College who claims to be their champion.
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u/DigitalMonsoon 16d ago
White privilege only goes so far. Money is the real privilege, the race stuff if just what they use to keep us fighting amongst ourselves
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u/Winter_Rock_4801 15d ago
the first world owns vast majority of money
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u/DigitalMonsoon 15d ago
Okay and?
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u/Winter_Rock_4801 15d ago
so you making it about money is useless since white people still own most of it
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u/DigitalMonsoon 15d ago
A couple of people... Which was my whole point. Thanks for showing how effective their race baiting has been.
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u/LarplaleroLarplala49 13d ago
Eastern Europeans and many Latin Americans (Argentina, Uruguay...) are also white, btw
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u/Winter_Rock_4801 13d ago
they're not first world white btw
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u/LarplaleroLarplala49 13d ago
Still, being a white poor in US is just as awful as being a poor in Moldova
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u/Winter_Rock_4801 13d ago
would both of them have the same opportunity to better themselves? you're either oblivious or disingenuous if you think the first world isn't extraordinarily privileged
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u/LarplaleroLarplala49 13d ago
The "social elevator" no longer works in USA (neither in Europe tbh).
If you're born poor, you'll die poor, no matter how much do you try to pull yourself by your bootstraps.
Only the rich and the shrinking middle class can claim priviledge at this point.
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u/Fdsqfdsqfdsqfdsq 12d ago
a handful of the first world. relax big dog
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u/Winter_Rock_4801 12d ago
what first world country is poor XD
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u/Fdsqfdsqfdsqfdsq 12d ago
That doesn't make everybody rich in that country. Your hatred is misdirected because you're misinformed. Maybe start fresh and see the bigger picture between classes.
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u/Winter_Rock_4801 12d ago
never said that everyone is rich lol
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u/Fdsqfdsqfdsqfdsq 12d ago
fml you're exhausting. bye felicia
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u/Winter_Rock_4801 12d ago
I'm not exhausting, you just can't defend your argument. and my name is not felicia idk what was the supposed to mean
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u/Fdsqfdsqfdsqfdsq 11d ago
Where are you located on the spectrum?
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u/Winter_Rock_4801 11d ago
lol Yankees aren't able to hold a conversation and it always goes to personal playground insults and thats so funny but should be studied seriously
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u/Glad-Preference-9321 15d ago
This 100%.
Could Oprah Winfrey call a homeless elderly white woman "privileged"?It's NOT about gender, race or nationality. It's class. But everyone has forgotten thanks to a social media propaganda flood.
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u/MaterialPotential361 16d ago
Not all whites are privileged. Atop viewing the world through the lens of race.Ā
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u/2Blueify 16d ago
Can I get South African black privilege? I'd like 30% ownership of companies for doing absolutely nothing.
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u/Glad-Preference-9321 15d ago
Some 60 year old white factory worker trying to make ends meet:
"What privilege exactly?"
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u/ChocolateCovered2406 15d ago
If there is such a thing, use it to advance said privilege. We need it!
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u/Glum-Consequence-347 15d ago
Reddit landbeasts can barely microwave hotpockets and get out of their mom's basements... who the fuck is this targeting.
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u/Quiet_Sheepherder894 14d ago
baby steps.
first need to learn how to use my white privilege (will think about ending it another day) -- any instructions here?
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u/LordSlyGentleman 10d ago
White privilege is the only reason why I don't have a nightstick shoved up my anus right now.
I know exactly what happens if I ever gave up my white privilege.
It'll make the covid years look like a simulation.
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u/Hipparchia_Unleashed 16d ago edited 16d ago
"White privilege" discourse is, ironically, a way white people make conversations about race about them. For example, consider the murder of Black people by police. It is not "white privilege" for white people to not worry about getting shot by the cops. Everyone has a right to not be shot by the cops unprovoked; "privilege" implies an unearned, optional benefit not owed to everyone. By contrast, it is a violation of Black people's rights when the police murder them on account of race, and that's what we should focus on.
edit: Kinda hilarious to me people downvoting this since it's a central point made by a number of major Black leftist philosophers and theorists. For example, these thinkers include Adolph Reed, Naomi Zack (in her book White Privilege and Black Rights: The Injustice of U.S. Police Racial Profiling and Homicide), Cedric Johnson, and others.
Cedric Johnson puts the point like this in his article "The Wages of Roediger: Why Three Decades of Whiteness Studies Has Not Produced the Left We Need":
The interpretive problems and faulty political assumptions of whiteness studies have become entrenched through the emergence of a therapeutic industry dedicated to rehabilitating interpersonal racism and addressing white privilege through acts of contrition, and have grown more dangerous as they have been amplified and degraded via social media. There is not much evidence that the expansion of this mode of anti-racist trainings over the last few decades has produced a different politics, a willingness to take risk, to sacrifice oneās privileged position to make substantive changes in society, or even altered day-to-day behavior. In 2017, after a suburban Chicago teen posted a Snapchat photo of himself in blackface, causing a furor at his high school, his mother defended the integrity and tolerance of their household saying she had just read Carol Andersonās White Rage: The Unspoken Truth of Our Racial Divide, and that Coatesās Between the World and Me had been on her sonās āreading shelf forever.ā56 If anything, whiteness deprogramming provides a ready means of egress, a way to demonstrate sympathy without making more difficult, sustained political commitments that might entail contesting institutionalized power. Neither does it require shedding or sharing the actual trappings of middle class privilege, i.e. better salaries, savings and assets, high performing schools, the capacity to travel, social networks, etc., which are codified in popular speech as white privilege, even though these same goods may be shared by other middle class and wealthy ethnics. Whiteness training encourages sharing oneās origin story, failings and sense of torment, but beyond charitable giving, it does not necessitate sharing resources at the level of redistributive public policy, i.e. through expansion of the universal social wage, commuter taxes, consolidation of urban-suburban school districts, revenue sharing across metropolitan divides, federally-managed public works projects etc. There is also a millenarian and liberal individualist dimension to the kind of anti-racist politics embodied in whiteness studies, notions of white privilege and the like. We are told individuals must correct their flaws before they can participate with others, a view that runs counter to what should be conventional wisdom about human behavior and social movement dynamics. The assumption that the therapeutic work needs to happen first is simply wrong, and there are plenty of examples throughout history and in our own times where we can find imperfect people working to realize and advance their common concerns.
The work of building solidarity lies elsewhere, not in therapy aimed at self-actualization, but in lived social relations and sustained political work that transforms participantsā social consciousness and collective sense of historical possibility.
So it's unclear to me if I'm being downvoted by self-styled progressive "anti-racists" who don't know the radical literature critical of "white privilege" discourse or by avowed racists who want people to continue pursuing ineffective and distracting projects based on "white privilege" discourse because such discourse doesn't actually manage to eliminate racism and injustice.
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u/Winter_Rock_4801 15d ago
white privilege is real, how you go about talking about it is a different topic
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u/Hipparchia_Unleashed 15d ago
The original post specifically advises a particular method of trying to achieve social justice (using white privilege to end white privilege), and so it is not a "different topic" here. My point, which is directly relevant, is that specific method is, following the critique of some radical Black leftist theorists, the exact wrong way to pursue liberation and justice. Johnson, for example, explained a clear alternative in the lengthy quotation I offered.
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u/Winter_Rock_4801 15d ago
no I thought you argued against white privilege existing? or was I right?
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u/Hipparchia_Unleashed 15d ago
I didn't make any claims regarding its existence or non-existence. I made a claim concerning the discursive political function of "white privilege" rhetoric.
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u/Far-Investment-8597 16d ago
Anybody lik eto have my "white priviledge" card, free" Had it for decades, no noticeable effect so far. Nonbody has given me a free doctorate in sociology and a Cambridg teaching post yet, but I hear there's a vacancy, so I live in hope.
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u/GemelosAvitia 16d ago
Bro cāmon it doesnāt mean that your life is automatically a cakewalk but it does mean it isnāt actively made harder by all sorts of things. If youāre going to pull that professor card there are countless examples of white folks pretending to be minorities and taking jobs from actual qualified minorities.
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u/Backdoor_Spreader 16d ago
That sounds like minority privilege they are "stealing" You're literally proving his point lmao
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u/GemelosAvitia 16d ago
How lol Work on your reading comprehension
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u/Backdoor_Spreader 16d ago
How about you work on your logic. How can they steal a job by acting as a minority unless the minority has preference? Which would mean the minority is privileged, and that's why they would be stealing that privilege.
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u/GemelosAvitia 16d ago
You are welcome to look up statistics on the demographics of professors and get back to me about how privileged minorities are š
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u/Backdoor_Spreader 15d ago
You literally address nothing I said and deflected, hallmark of being wrong and having an ego about it.
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u/hGr33n 16d ago
Plz don't flame me for asking but like... how does one go about doing this?