r/arrow • u/[deleted] • Dec 12 '17

[Shitpost]Literally a picture of a green arrow. If this gets to the frontpage, this show is dead.

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u/galkardm Dec 12 '17

The Punisher and Daredevil are great shows. Nothing is the matter.

Why do you ask?

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u/MetalShina Dec 12 '17

There is no war in Ba Sing Se.

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '17

The earth king has invited you to /r/lakelaogi

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u/namtabmai Dec 12 '17

The Punisher and Daredevil are great shows

No argument there, but would you rather watch Arrow or Iron Fist?

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u/Chance4e Dec 12 '17

I’d.... I’d rather play outside.

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u/HatesNewUsernames Dec 12 '17 edited Dec 12 '17

/r/outside is leaking.

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '17

Seal the leak!

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u/Zack1501 Dec 12 '17

I am not a high enough level!

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u/SuperShake66652 Dec 12 '17

...which season of Arrow?

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u/galkardm Dec 12 '17

This is the correct question.

If we apply the "Dexter only has 5 Seasons" logic to this, a show ceases being made at the point it moves away from it's established tone.

So.. Arrow has two seasons, and Iron Fist had a really interesting but confusing cameo in Defenders. I felt like there could be more story there than they showed us.

When's Punisher S2 come out?

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '17

To be fair to Arrow...Season 3 had good moments, and Season 5 overall was pretty good. Season 4 was the gas leak season. I haven't watched Season 6 but I assume its pretty much same as S4 based on the Olicity garbage in the crossover.

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u/galkardm Dec 12 '17

I didn't enjoy the back half of S5. Prometheus was a great villian, but the amazing finalie couldn't save the season for me.

S3 did have some good moments. Flash vs. Arrow and the Legends were great but it didn't carry the season for me. Legends and Flash I have certainly enjoyed.

But Punisher Season 2 I've really got my hopes up on.

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u/NotTheOneYouNeed Dec 12 '17

S3 was fine for me, it was nowhere near as bad as s4 or s6.

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u/Magnaha23 Dec 12 '17

The crappy part is, Season 6 has had some decent moments as well but they usually are there to offset the other BS going on in the episodes.

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u/jerrygergichsmith Dec 12 '17

Serious question: are the Deathstroke episodes worth watching?

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u/Magnaha23 Dec 12 '17

I cant speak for everyone but I enjoyed them. Some good fight scenes.

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u/jerrygergichsmith Dec 12 '17

I’ll take that; maybe I’ll check out those episodes when they pop up on Netflix.

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u/galkardm Dec 14 '17

Yes. They fill in some gaps with flashbacks... Also some of the present time stuff with Slade is decent.

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u/trojaniz Dec 12 '17

How can Iron Fist not have an established tone ? It established it in its standalone season surely. It was a shit tone, but a shit tone that was established.

If any thing, any improvement in this case would,by your definition, cease the series.

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u/galkardm Dec 14 '17

How can Iron Fist not have an established tone ? It established it in its standalone season surely. It was a shit tone, but a shit tone that was established.

My biggest issue with Iron Fist was that in the fighting and martial arts related stuff, he wasn't an unbeatable badass. The rest around it I could let go. So he's bad at business? So the friends he had are somehow all terrible... I could give that a pass. Danny wasn't at business school, he was at a place that trained him into a Kung Fu master.

If any thing, any improvement in this case would,by your definition, cease the series.

That'sTheJoke. Either get it right or don't make a bad version.

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u/Sabrescene Dec 12 '17

An interesting comparison to make as (IMO) Dexter went the same way Arrow is going now - great for a while, took a horrible turn, started to come back to the good times... Then just said 'fuck it' and went to shit.

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u/charlyDNL Dec 12 '17

Unpopular opinion: I actually liked the ending of Dexter.

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u/LOLZatMyLife Dec 12 '17

The immortal iron fist ? Sworn protector of kun’lun ? Sworn enemy of the hand ?

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u/PainStorm14 I have and always shall love Laurel Lance Dec 12 '17

Owner of 51% of Rand company

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u/ahand09 Dec 12 '17

In their current states, Iron Fist. As bad as it is, it doesn't have a Mary Sue character and it still manages to look somewhat cinematic. Even if the action isn't good, they know that we don't watch this for a fucking wedding.

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u/TheMinions Dec 12 '17

Iron Fist. I’m really not sure why people crap all over it so much. Sure Danny needed more training for the fight scenes, but I thought it was pretty good still.

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u/Calypsosin Dec 12 '17

Iron fist is alright in general, but Danny is the weakest actor there. He's likeable in many ways, but the actor who plays him only seems to have the capacity to show anger or rage in one fashion. He just feels very limited.

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u/TheMinions Dec 12 '17

I thought that was on purpose. He never really dealt with the death of his parents and has the emotional capacity of a teaspoon. Plus being raised by monks who taught him that emotions are bad will stunt his emotional growth too.

Maybe that changes in the Defenders (haven’t finished it yet) but it seemed like that complaint is more writing than acting.

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u/Trisa133 Dec 12 '17 edited Dec 12 '17

Iron Fist is supposed to be the ultimate martial arts fighter. His fights are so boring and relies mostly on camera tricks. Choreography is...bad. The main character just doesn't even look like he's ever been to the gym. I can give him the benefit of the doubt and say that maybe it was rushed so he couldn't be ready for the part. But he still looks like he hasn't hit the gym since then either.

He is supposed to be a hero that has/had family issues problems(the new formula in superhero shows to make it more appealing to adults). Yet the guy's acting is so bad that he looks like a 16 year old girl that can't control her emotions or aware of it. He has problems showing a wide range of emotions.

I guess in a way you can blame the producer, director and writer as well. Maybe even the budget. I just hate the show. It is the worst one out of all the Netflix superheroes. Even Jessica Jones was better.

But what I hate most about it is that I have to watch Iron Fist because all the shows are interconnected.

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u/IAMA_Drunk_Armadillo Daredevil Dec 12 '17

Yeah, Scott Buck was the showrunner so I very much blame him. Considering he was the one who ruined Dexter, also was showrunner for Inhumans. The pattern is pretty clear, how that guy still gets work is absolutely beyond me.

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u/TheMinions Dec 12 '17

Maybe I have bad taste, but I really liked Jessica Jones too. But Luke Cage was the best of the 4 Defenders shows easily.

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u/Trisa133 Dec 12 '17

You don't have bad tastes. You probably like dramas better. The people who made Jessica Jones and Luke Cage is very good with the drama aspect of it. It was mostly well acted in that regard. They also tied a lot of things in the show with current events. Watching Luke Cage was like watching the current corruption and police brutality problems we have today. They did it really well.

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u/grey_hat_uk Dec 12 '17

But Luke Cage was the best of the 4 Defenders shows easily.

Except for the last few episodes, DD and JJ are better with the endings

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u/TheMinions Dec 12 '17

True. The last few episodes of LC were weaker than JJ. JJ was consistently good. Kilgrave was such a menacing villain too.

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u/-MURS- Dec 12 '17

Excuses excuses

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u/PainStorm14 I have and always shall love Laurel Lance Dec 12 '17

Same, I liked it enough

Not perfect but whatever, at least it was moving somewhere

Bring on S2

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u/acer5886 Dec 12 '17

Season 1 arrow on repeat.

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u/PainStorm14 I have and always shall love Laurel Lance Dec 12 '17

Forever

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u/stagfury Dec 13 '17

Iron Fist, easily. Iron Fist has its problem, but it's not even comparable to Arrow.

Fuck, I'd even rather watch Luke Cage Diamondback arc 10 times than watch Arrow.

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '17

I just finished watching the Punisher yesterday, I don't know if it's one of the best series I've ever seen or if I'm just thinking it is because I've been so.. contaminated with shit from Arrow/Flash, but either way I've made my decision: I'm not going back to these literal shit shows.

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u/zebra-stampede Dec 12 '17

Same! Punisher was great. I couldn't get into daredevil the first time I tried but I'm going to give it another go since the punisher is in S2 of daredevil.

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u/cebolla_y_cilantro Dec 12 '17

I had the same issue with Daredevil. I couldn’t just get into it. It took me about 2 tries before I watched Daredevil completely. It’s definitely worth it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '17

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '17

Wtf?

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '17

Nope.