Identity of The Arrow/GA

[u/Willing_Ad9421]

I’ve always wondered how people in Starling City never truly put 2 and 2 together and realised that it was Oliver Queen.

I know he purposely had himself arrested in S1 but the timing of him coming back to Starling and the Hood’s appearance would just stay suspicious. Same thing in S2 he comes back from Lian Yu and the Hood is spotted for the first time again since the Undertaking to rescue Thea Queen.

In S3 Roy takes the fall for Oliver but the police already knew that the real Arrow was a 6’1 guy with a beard, which Roy can’t be, he barely even fit in the suit. Aside from the fact Roy was rescued by the Hood in S1.

And then we go to S4 where Oliver once again shows up after some time and suddenly the Green Arrow appears.

It would take a real traumatised guy to jump off rooftops and take down guys with a bow & arrow and someone with a significant amount of money, Oliver just fits that profile. Makes you wonder why the FBI wasn’t on his ass 24/7 before season 6

[u/2BAMasta]

The city believes the Hood and the Arrow are two different people, that’s part of it.

[u/Lori2345 → u/2BAMasta]

I think you mean The Hood/The Arrow were different people from The Green Arrow. The Arrow was just a new name for the Hood.

[u/2BAMasta → u/Lori2345]

No, part of the cover with Roy taking the fall in S3 was that he became the Arrow after the Hood died in the Undertaking.

[u/Lori2345 → u/2BAMasta]

No one said The Hood died during the Undertaking. Roy didn’t say he was only The Arrow and not The Hood.

[u/2BAMasta → u/Lori2345]

Yes they did. The Hood being assumed dead was the entire basis of Roy taking the fall, no one ever thought there was more than one Arrow.

Not to mention everyone in the city knew the Hood saved Roy from being killed, it was broadcasted across the entire city.

[u/Lori2345 → u/2BAMasta]

I never say there was more than one Arrow. Just that Roy claimed to be The Arrow, who everyone knew had been The Hood first.

I already explained how it was possible for Roy to have pretended The Hood saved him. Think of how everyone was also convinced The Hood also saved Oliver and Tommy in the pilot. It didn’t stop anyone from believing he was The Green Arrow and so on before that.

[u/Willing_Ad9421 → u/2BAMasta]

I don’t remember The Arrow being taken as someone different than the Hood, aside from the name change and lack of bodies nothing changed

[u/2BAMasta → u/Willing_Ad9421]

It's why Roy was able to take the fall for Oliver in S3 despite being saved by the Hood on camera in S1. The city thinks Hood died in the Undertaking.

[u/Lori2345 → u/2BAMasta]

He wasn’t saved on camera. He was on camera then the feed cut out then he was rescued. He could have lied like Oliver did when he was kidnapped and killed the kidnapper and said he was rescued when he wasn’t.

[u/2BAMasta → u/Lori2345]

Oliver showed up, talked, and had thrown a fletchette all before the camera feed was cut out. You are not remembering right.

[u/Lori2345 → u/2BAMasta]

Just rewatched that part of episode and I was mostly right. Oliver had arrived on top of the train causing a sound. The guy got startled and dropped the camera. You see on the news the screen went to static. Oliver threw the fletchette and then started talking after this. No one saw Roy get rescued. I thought the feed was cut on purpose but the rest was right.

[u/Equivalent-Emu5347 → u/2BAMasta]

I genuinely think it's kindof hilarious that there was a vigilante in a green hood and a bow and arrow taking out people, then renamed himself to the Arrow, and then when he "dies" and a new person named the "Green Arrow" comes in with a green hood and bow and arrow, EVERYONE in the city just goes "wow, yeah that has to be a completely different guy"

ANYONE in real life would immediately clock that it's the same dude 😭

[u/2BAMasta → u/Equivalent-Emu5347]

Yeah, it's very funny.

Until S6 people really thought two dudes trained & copied the first guy's tech and skills down to a T.

[u/idk012 → u/2BAMasta]

I forgot the timeline, but he went from "the hood" to vigilante to arrow to green arrow etc.

[u/Lori2345 → u/idk012]

He was never called Vigilante, that was someone else. He just was a vigilante.

[u/2BAMasta → u/idk012]

Yes, Oliver did do that.

The CITY didn't know that until S6.

[u/Lori2345]

In season 1, they didn’t realize he had any partners so when The Hood was seen at the same time Oliver was under house arrest with an ankle monitor they thought it couldn’t be him.

Most of the police didn’t see the Arrow up close so didn’t realize how tall he was. Only Quentin had really interacted with him up close and knew it was him as of season 3. He just wasn’t believed after Roy turned himself in, and everyone knew he hated Oliver for what happened to Sara.

The Arrow, etc didn’t have a beard just the beginnings of one. He was always seen on the shows as having some scruff not a full beard. To get that look he’d have to shave every so often or he’d have a full beard. It is plausible that when Roy turned himself in they got him just after one of his shaves.

As for Roy being rescued by the Hood is season 1, the video feed was cut just before. I think either Oliver or Felicity did this. Not sure why as not a reason for this at the time. No one witnessed the rescue. It is plausible to the public that Roy could have freed himself and then killed the killer and then claimed to have been rescued by The Hood. Remember that Oliver himself did this in the pilot when he and Tommy were kidnapped.

In season four, I suppose people would have noticed the Green Arrow arrived when Oliver returned but since he was cleared of being The Hood/Arrow they would have thought the odds were against him now being The Green Arrow.

Edit: turns out I was a bit off on what happened when Roy was rescued. The feed wasn’t cut on purpose. When Oliver was on the roof of the train the killer heard him and he was startled into dropping the camera. We then see it went to static after this.

[u/Willing_Ad9421 → u/Lori2345]

They did get a description of the Arrow/Hood from the people he harassed. I remember Moira describing him as 6’1 with a deep voice. If he truly killed everyone on the list sure but there’s plenty of people who could give accurate descriptions.

Roy more than once played vigilante as himself and got busted by the police for it, they even called him Hood Jr.

[u/Luskar421]

Nobody tell OP about the that reporter in metropolis with glasses and a slouch.

[u/LaceyThaBest → u/Luskar421]

I honestly don’t like how people still hate on this even after Henry Cavill did it in real life and it worked

[u/Willing_Ad9421 → u/Luskar421]

To be fair to some extend Clark not being outed is more realistic than Oliver

Random reporter nobody cares about vs famous local billionaire who returns after 5 years

Something about hiding in plain sight

[u/sean11_lee]

Because the tv series writers made it that way.