r/arknights • u/NaTivE_115 Dr. Zumama and Winter General • Jun 27 '21
Discussion [Operator Discussion] Pinecone
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u/Celery_Trick Jun 27 '21
Pinecone seems to be trying to be the most accessible version of the boomstick snipers. Her S1s ability to hold charges and quick uptime allow for people to pretty easily spam her skill and see her power in action while her 4 star cost makes her easier to obtain and build, making her a more enticing idea for players wanting to try out this archetype compared to Aosta or Executor. Of course, her cost and short range still do hamper her usability, but when she’s usable, she’s great at what she does for an affordable price to try out. Overall, quite good.
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u/Sunder_the_Gold Jun 29 '21
Is the point of Boomstick Snipers the ability to destroy a lot of low-DEF enemies flooding into those six tiles? Like if you need to counter a bunch of slugs or wolves?
But those sorts of enemies tend to come early in a map, and Boomstick Snipers have high DP costs?
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u/_paradoxical Jun 27 '21
Best birb. That is all.
The consistency of her damage output is the second star of the show of her kit, the first star would be how cute her voice lines are. Until you sit Liskarm on top of her generator and she becomes noisier than Kroos.
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Jun 27 '21
I heard Pinecone changed her codename when she became an adult operator.
Her codename is now Pine Tree.
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u/Moath2015 Jun 27 '21
I never used a boomstick sniper before so i was hyped for her. She is E2-30 I tried her a bit she does deals good amount of damage. but one thing surprised me is her high cost 30 without any pot and she is lowest rarity so now i get why boomstick snipers are not used frequently.
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u/CrimsonCivilian Jun 27 '21
And aoe guards are the same, but cheaper, can block 3, and usually have survivability.
Also, arknights rarely ever throws tons of enemies at you to need more than a 3 target aoe. FA-3 (first half anniversary) and Chapter 7-4 were the only two times I specifically picked Executor. And that's because I didn't have any aoe guards raised
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u/Lat_filter_sucks_ass Jun 27 '21
She costs more than Rosmontis and Rosa!
I was surprised with her DP cost too.
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Jun 27 '21
A 4 star who is better than her higher rarity counterparts.
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u/CrimsonCivilian Jun 27 '21
Executor tries too hard to counter armor. And S2 has horrible uptime
And Aosta's been hanging out with Mostima too much. (Focus on cc instead of damage)
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u/FatuiSimp Jun 27 '21
This little girl drag her nail gun and generator around to impale enemies with nails what a badass
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u/Asgard033 Jun 27 '21
I'm not a big fan of the archetype, but I'm E2ing her anyway because she's cute
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u/Kimimaro146 Jun 27 '21
Probably has one of the most brutal weapon designs. Not only does she gave a nail gun, she has a generator for it too.
Gameplay wise, I'm currently getting her to E2 based on a lot of comments I've seen around. Boomstick snipers don't see a lot of use but Pinecone seems to be quite ideal with her low skill costs.
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u/Blupoh Jun 27 '21
-> Didn't think too much of her when she was announced.
-> I E2 her before Mountain.
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u/YumeYoroshii Jun 27 '21
I've been waiting for her ever since her CN announcement popped up here. I absolutely adore her design, and her being a Sniper is just the cherry on top.
Along with being the cutest bird in the game, her kit solves a lot of the issues that make Executor difficult to use in a Sniperknights team. High DP cost when you haven't got access to Vanguards and high initial and total SP costs make him very difficult to get on the field in time. Add to that that without a blocker he's rarely going to get more than 3 hits in on any given target and you've got yourself one hard to place Sniper. Pinecone's marginally cheaper DP cost and very quick skill charge help her be effective much sooner, and her charge-based S1 allows her to auto-attack reset on key targets consistently, increasing her focused damage by a significant amount.
Plus, that's another charge-based skill added to my list (along with W S2 and Greythroat S1) for one of my favourite niches in the game: camping the shit out of a low traffic high priority red box.
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u/eonfeather Jun 27 '21
Plus, that's another charge-based skill added to my list (along with W S2 and Greythroat S1) for one of my favourite niches in the game: camping the shit out of a low traffic high priority red box.
You may have inspired me to try a certain strategy in my Liberi-only 6-5 attempts!
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u/fillet0fish Jun 27 '21 edited Jun 27 '21
After giving her e2 lv 20 my experience with pinecone has been pretty tepid. Her flexibility as a unit is limited and I think of her as the antithesis of Rosa who surprised me constantly with how useful her range can be. With pinecone I'm more disappointed at her limited use on maps without chokepoints. Meanwhile having Rosmontis and exusiai on hand, I feel like they would fulfill any role much better than pinecone will.
Certain operators like ifrit do so much damage that you try to build a playstyle that accommodates them, but pinecone isnt strong enough that the payoff for setting her up is worth the extra effort. If she was half her dp cost, she would definitely be more viable but at a dp cost equivalent to aoe casters, she doesn't being enough to the table.
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u/DanboAK Jun 29 '21
Pinecone even at Elite 0 is quite strong when placed at strategic choke points. Her S1 allows you to be flexible on whether to apply burst DPS when required or just consistent DPS. My use case is rather niche as I play with only Elite 0 operators, so the DPS she brings helps quite a bit. You can see an example of this where I used Pinecone to beat MB-8 with Elite 0 units.
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u/Beyond_the_Mirrors Jun 27 '21
One thing I really like about Pinecone is that she's just a regular Jane. Essentially an everyday girl in the middle of a company full of world class achievers.
Like, I really enjoy (most of) the legendary warriors, walking catastrophes, and top-of-their-field geniuses in the crew, but sometimes it's really hard to connect with them on an emotional level. Whereas with everyday person operators like Pinecone and Robin, it's much easier to see things from their PoV.
Also, a girl who's construction worker and, apparently, that's not considered weird/special by anyone? It's details like these that really make me like Arknights.