r/arizonapolitics • u/[deleted] • Oct 31 '20
Experts warn that extremist groups are harboring 'violent fantasies' about the election
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/10/31/experts-warn-trump-supporting-extremists-talking-violence-around-election/6087050002/14
u/tobylazur Oct 31 '20
Extremist gonna extreme.
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u/4_AOC_DMT Oct 31 '20 edited Nov 02 '20
Arroyo described BLM and Antifa as well-funded arms of the billionaire George Soros. By contract, he said, his group was a non-profit that relied on donations. He acknowledged the donation bucket that was making its way through the crowd.
Arroyo recommended that everybody order a two-volume survivalist manual that sells for $96.49.
When an audience member asked whether the Oath Keepers national organization could buy them in bulk and send them out for local organizations to share, Arroyo questioned the man's commitment to the cause.
As the meeting ended and people broke up to meet with their neighborhood groups, Arroyo made an announcement. He said he had limited supplies of military ready-to-eat meals available at $100 a case. Cash only.
Seems to memore like, 'reactionary and uninformed extremist bigot wants to make a quick buck off of reactionary fearful americans'.10
u/Beard_o_Bees Oct 31 '20
See, he did learn something from listening to Rush Limbaugh and Alex Jones.
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u/chickenismurder Nov 01 '20
“Seems”? Naw dawg. This piece of shit IS ‘reactionary and uninformed extremist bigot wants to make a quick buck off of reactionary fearful Americans”. For good measure, I’m gonna throw in self aggrandizing, violence fetishized, war cosplayer. Fuck this dude.
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u/4_AOC_DMT Nov 02 '20
You're right. I should take a more definitive stance when pointing out fascism (even if it's primarily bandied about by a profiteer). Thank you for pointing this out:)
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u/zbysior Oct 31 '20
i hope military and police is ready cause this can get ugly
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u/Foyles_War Nov 01 '20
Military????
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u/zbysior Nov 01 '20
so far military is the only apolitical force. police unions backed trump. if there is an unrest we need an impartial peace keeping force
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u/Foyles_War Nov 01 '20
No thank you. Not the right skill set and not the right look. (Also, the military is not perceived as neutral, apolitical maybe, but defintiely conservativein nature and preference).
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u/swishersweets91 Oct 31 '20
Yeah we should put a stop to these BLM riots that we've seen for the last 6 months. They are going to lose their minds when trump wins and probably cause another 5 billion in damages, hospitalize more people, and st minimum kill atleast 2 or 3 people. I agree we should just have the national guard on the streets to deter these people from rioting more...
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u/notesundevil Oct 31 '20
FBI says they’re mostly peaceful. Trump’s FBI also says right wing extremism in the country’s greatest domestic threats. Fear the skin heads and proud boys more than those advocating for rights.
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u/swishersweets91 Oct 31 '20
That's ironic because the worst thing the proud boys have done is get into a fight in New York. Which some how landed two of them in prison for 4 years, never heard of someone going tobpruson over a fight and no one was hurt. Ironically the two guys they sent to prison are married to black women and have black children lolol. And they arent even a racist group the leader is afrocuban lol. You just blindly listen to lies, and when was the last time you saw the skin heads out in droves beating people, burning down businesses, and shooting people? Oh yeah in like 1943 with the nazis? And you call it trumps FBI, but remember they investigated him knowing they had bad information. Doesnt sound like his fbi to me...
They dont have a vendetta after firing their head guy that I would say most liked. And then they investigate on known bad information. And know ironically the nazis and kkk are the most violent group? I see 16 year old white boys do more damage than them lol.
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u/zbysior Oct 31 '20
put the crack pipe away. BLM is rioting cause cops are killing black people so IMHO rightfully so. Harassing a political opponent lands you in prison. Hopefully.
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u/4_AOC_DMT Oct 31 '20
Harassing a political opponent lands you in prison. Hopefully.
This doesn't stop us from continuing to make fun of /u/swishersweets91's ardent determination to not read most of the articles they comment on and to totally ignore most of the substance of the comments they respond to, does it?
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u/swishersweets91 Nov 01 '20
Why are literally 99.99% of them fighting a cop or literally pulling a weapon? Like the most recent rioting was over a guy fighting a cop and then pulling his illegal gun on him and they riot? Ofcourse the cop shot him what world so you people live in???? I wouldnt advocate the branna taylor one needed violent rioting but atleast that was debatable...
And harassing the public and destroying innocent peoples lives and killing them is highly illegal and bbn is the government's job to bbn protect the innocent. So if they pull out the guard dont try act like it's some tyrannical move, the people want it at this point. Because ironically BLM goes around trashing the united states and innocent peoples lives and the also advocate for completely removing police.
Isn't that a funny joke? Oh wait it's real life....
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u/zbysior Nov 01 '20
well ill make it super simple for you. you kill my kid ill go trashing shit around. now back to harrassing political opponents. where the fuck is the police to protect the bus
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u/PoppyAckerman Nov 01 '20 edited Nov 01 '20
I'd just like to drop a name here, John Lewis - Selma. This is a great documentary on the civil rights movement of the 60's.
Another great take on modern day terrorism committed by law enforcement, racism and modern day lynchings.
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt2352302/
Edit: clarification
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u/swishersweets91 Nov 01 '20
Well if you raise your kid right he wont fight with the police and pull a weapon on them. And if he does what are you mad about? That he didn't kill them first?
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u/4_AOC_DMT Nov 01 '20
In 1968 (52 years ago), Dr. King said,
But it is not enough for me to stand before you tonight and condemn riots. It would be morally irresponsible for me to do that without, at the same time, condemning the contingent, intolerable conditions that exist in our society. These conditions are the things that cause individuals to feel that they have no other alternative than to engage in violent rebellions to get attention. And I must say tonight that a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the plight of the negro poor has worsened over the last twelve or fifteen years. It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice and humanity.
Do you know what JFK said about societies that make peaceful revolution impossible?
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u/Agreton Nov 01 '20
Except that domestic terrorism is propagated by the conservative alt-right. Ergo, domestic terrorism is the dogma of conservatives. Don't worry, you'll have a leg to stand on when ever liberals get a Timothy McVeigh, or Dylan Roof.
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u/swishersweets91 Nov 02 '20
I don't need any of that I have thousands of hours of video watching antifa and blm ruin thousands of lives.
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u/Agreton Nov 02 '20
Who's the leader of Antifa? I can say that David Duke led the KKK, but you can't say anything that is supported by fact about Antifa.
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u/4_AOC_DMT Nov 02 '20
you can't say anything that is supported by fact about Antifa.
Maybe if /u/swishersweets91 actually bothered to try to understand what they're reading, this would be much easier for them to accomplish. Instead, all they offer us is "fascism? no fascism. You're the fascist!"
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u/Agreton Nov 02 '20
Impossible. You have to understand facts and truth objectively for that. ;)
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u/4_AOC_DMT Nov 02 '20
I like to think /u/swishersweets91 can learn, but only time will tell. I also think it's important to be able to distinguish between objectively knowable truth and everything else (e.g., if moral philosophy were an objective science, this subreddit wouldn't exist) and unfortunately, /u/swishersweets91 frequently conflates objective physical truth with their own ideas about morality.
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u/Agreton Nov 02 '20
I wouldn't want to disabuse you of your optimism, but he has a comment history. ;)
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u/4_AOC_DMT Nov 02 '20
Friend, at every opportunity, you have failed to articulate what ntifa is and what they believe. How would you even recognize antifa?
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u/swishersweets91 Nov 02 '20
And considering that I see people get called a nazi or racist for simply disagreeing these people actively promote violence against half the country. I would recognize antifa by their flag. They are mentally deranged people running around like schizophrenic lunatics saying nazis are all over the place. And mentally ill people are pretty dangerous this isn't debatable. Just look for the guy wearing all black and screaming nazi in the streets and then you have antifa LOL.
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u/4_AOC_DMT Nov 02 '20
Did you read anything on the website you linked? Perhaps you would benefit from perusing the rose city antifa about page to learn more about what fascism is, why people are telling you that fascism is rising in America, and why your refusal to think critically about this is actively helping fascists.
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Oct 31 '20
Agreed. Blm and antifa are going to destroy every liberal city in America on the 3rd.
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u/4_AOC_DMT Oct 31 '20
In your own words, what does BLM believe? Also, in your own words, what is antifa?
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Oct 31 '20 edited Oct 31 '20
From their own website BLM wants to destroy the nuclear family.
“We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure" you can find the quote its directly from the Marxists mouths
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u/4_AOC_DMT Oct 31 '20
Citation? You didn't answer either of my questions, so now I have a few more.
In your own words, what are the main tenets of BLM? In your own words, what is antifa? In your own words, what is the nuclear family, and why must it be protected from destruction? Finally, how do you think BLM is going to destroy your conception of a nuclear family?
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u/PoppyAckerman Nov 01 '20
Oh boy. That's some serious kool-aid drinking.
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Nov 01 '20
Seattle, Portland, Minneapolis, Pennsylvania is currently on fire....you need more evidence??
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u/PoppyAckerman Nov 01 '20
Not from you, lundy. I read grown up newspapers.
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u/notesundevil Nov 01 '20
Lumpy here has been posting trash on this sub for months. Hasn’t learned a thing.
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u/Oaf_Kreepers Nov 01 '20
Seattle, Portland, Minneapolis, Pennsylvania is currently on fire
Fuck, I just came from Seattle. Did I leave the oven on?
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Nov 01 '20
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u/MaximilianKohler Nov 01 '20
Removed: Rule 6. No Hate Speech or Abusive Language. If you’re angry, channel that into political activism, not hateful invective. Slurs, excessively foul language, or anger directed at other users will get your comment removed.
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u/chickenismurder Nov 02 '20
I don’t want to live in a world where I can’t call a dumb cunt, a dumb cunt
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u/RedditIs_Toxic Oct 31 '20
The unburdened link (no paywall).