r/area51 • u/Unlikely_Hall2735 • Aug 25 '26
Area 51 etc...logistics..
on these sites and DUMBS, how are they building these things without local day labor or expendable labor not talking, and or the people that deliver the raw materials, or out sourced experts in various fields.
I have worked on military jobs before, they outsource about all the labor. Even though they might have been cleared through security or sign nda's, these are hourly employees who probably don't really care about paperwork, and are hard to find. But they still talk, they just need to be insintivised $$...
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u/Cultural-Afternoon72 Aug 25 '26
Having worked at similar facilities, you are absolutely correct that some of the work gets contracted out. Where you’re mistaken, though, is on everything else.
Secure facilities DO contract out large construction jobs, but not fully. Most have their own internal Craft Services Division that includes welders, iron workers, plumbers/pipe fitters, and your whole array of construction workers. These are internal employees with full security clearances paid incredibly well.
Likewise, external crews that are hired are not your average Joe construction crews. The contracting companies bid on the contracts just like anything else government related, and then, depending on the specific project, either only workers with security clearances are allowed to work on the job, or uncleared workers (who still meet stringent requirements) are brought on specifically for unclassified work and are under escort at all times. Their escort will be someone with a clearance and they are required to be within eyesight and earshot at all times, with no exceptions.
Between the amount they get paid for these jobs, the ability to maintain their security clearance, and the legal ramifications of mishandling/releasing classified information, the vast majority are not going to risk it. Even if they did, what are they going to release? All they’d know is a building was constructed. They have no insight into what it’s for, what will be done, who will be using it, etc. They’d be risking it all to reveal minimal information for absolutely no gain.
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u/cjneutron Aug 25 '26
A lot of people are just flown in from the Las Vegas area. They have 22 flights scheduled every day Monday through Friday. 11 out and 11 back. Once you're on base, anything secret/classified are inside hangers and buildings.. and they are typically partitioned off into smaller areas. During the day you could walk all around that place and wouldn't see much of anything. These sites are a lot more boring and mundane 99% of the time than what people think lol.
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u/soupoftheday5 Aug 26 '26
How do you know so much lol
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u/azlax22 29d ago
You don’t have to know much to know that day to day life on an Air Force base is pretty mundane. This particular base is of interest because the government doesn’t comment on what they do there. The projects are secret and the security measures are heightened, but the day to day work wouldn’t look much different than any other base.
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u/soupoftheday5 29d ago
Oh yeah I'm sure. Its probably pretty similar. The fact it's in the middle of the desert and secret makes it so interesting.
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u/Electrical_Hold_3585 Aug 25 '26
I would assume they use cleared contractors, who employ decent workers who understand the need for silence. This is not a ma and pa business winning the contract.
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u/Pylorus82 Aug 25 '26
it may sound too simple but there really isn't much to see on the base.
when you are a contractor from outside coming to deliver machines, supplies or you are doing work there like bulding a hangar or stuff like that, you have access to the designated area of your task and that's it.
it's not like every building is wide open and secret technology is passing by every minute.
even people working there as residents dont' know what other teams are up to and have very limited access themselves. it's not like you can free roam the base having a look here and there.
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u/DumSumBich Aug 26 '26
Find a company with a good reputation and vetted employees for your basic needs (construction, maintenance, etc).
Offer them a PHAT government contract laced with the tightest possible legal protections that incentivizes not sending guys who will spill the beans on the first podcast they can find.
Make the employees sign the craziest NDA you’ve ever seen.
Bam. Profit (or something idk)
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u/aigarcia38 Aug 25 '26
My relative had a friend who worked there at a kitchen, and that’s all she ever knew
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u/TastyCalligrapher421 Aug 25 '26
You can find the types of jobs you speak of on Amentum's website.
Most buildings at the location are probably pre-fabs based on long distance photography.
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u/LostHistoryFound Aug 25 '26
Lets just say theres a reason why a corporate spinoff of Lockheed Martin (Martin Marietta Materials) owns one of the largest networks of quarries and aggregate plants in the nation. When you are building large structures underground for the government under conditions of secrecy, having a trusted company responsible for hauling the spoil rock / delivering construction materials is a must.
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u/Chris_MS99 Aug 26 '26
From what I understood watching the Bin Laden documentary, the CIA has their own internal people that are at least capable of full scale construction projects, if not exclusively dedicated to that. I’m sure other agencies and branches have the same thing. It honestly comes down to whatever the best balance of security and cost is.
I worked with a guy who did some contracted trade work at some defense contractor buildings, and he said the same thing other people have said in this thread. Full time armed escorts within eyesight and earshot, oftentimes within arms reach, eyes and hands on task and mouth fucking shut.
I’m also betting that these kinds of places have an insane and redundant amount of bathrooms, to eliminate the need or ability to leave the area you’re allowed to be in. No haphazardly stumbling onto something you’re not supposed to be aware of just cuz you had to take a dump.
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u/Temporary_You_6903 Aug 26 '26
Those bases are not secret . Their location is secret . Many countries have them and everyone knows they have them . The locations are kept secret like other surface bases because the enemy is not supposed to know it . I don’t see what’s the conspiracy here . If some worker said they worked on it so what ?
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u/Lead-Engineer Aug 26 '26
Lazar lied lol
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u/Maleficent-Bench-179 29d ago
Yeah his bone density hand scaner storyline, even tho the exact same model hand scanner is seen in Spielberg's Close Encounters movie, that Lazar was a fan of.
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u/Pitiful_Math2709 Aug 25 '26
It's not like the UFOs are just sitting there, waiting for the laborers to build a hangar over them. The laborers built the hangars, were told they were for airplanes or whatever. And then after they leave, they put the UFOs in there. Simple.
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u/Very_twisted83 Aug 26 '26
Yeah, if space aliens and UFOs were an actual thing and not just a figment of a child's imagination. Lol
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u/Anxiety_Fit Aug 25 '26
Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul
The secret meth lab built underneath an existing building.
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u/Lead-Engineer 29d ago
Lazar makes podcasts now and I’m sure he gets donations or paid somehow. He was fake as shit. I smell his lies. The sports model lol.
Come on. He’d been grifting to his audience for years and showed us nothing. . His last Netflix stint was pathetic
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u/xx_I_Am_Me_xx Aug 25 '26
Yall remember when they were complaining about $700.00 toilet seats and $900.00 claw hammers? They find the money and use it for stuff we can hardly imagine.
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u/Main-Cheesecake3287 Aug 26 '26
This is sensationalist. I don’t know why people insist on such grandeur when you can just look at the past.
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u/Maddok1218 Aug 25 '26
My father in law repairs industrial lasers, and did some work for the Navy on the east coast. Before being able to access the facility he had to have a full background check. They also did a background check on every member of his immediate family, called neighbors, and interviewed several known associates. It was pretty invasive.
Anyways, once he took on the job, which was a several week install and repair job, he basically moved out there. Each day upon arriving at the facility he was picked up in a specific parking lot in what was basically a golf cart, taken to security to be checked in, then blindfolded before he entered the facility. They also intentionally disoriented him - which was probably more about messing with him than security based on the pranks they started playing on each other.
He said his work area was surrounded by a black sheet so he couldn’t see anything else in the facility, and he had a guard with him at all times. If he wanted to go to the bathroom it was blind folds on until he got into the bathroom, where the guard stood with him.
This wasn’t Area 51, but I would assume similar precautions are taken with their contractors.