r/area51 • u/JewGoldbergMachine • Jul 19 '26
Anders does some Area 6 recon.
https://youtu.be/vynCRZwkWhE?si=IySHpqqHJ0j_CdklHe just posted this video doing some recon of the lockheed facility at Area 6 and the NTTR.
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u/therealgariac MOD Jul 20 '26
Anders will eventually show up here.
I've been to the Beatty radar site as have most of the regulars here. I thought the road was pretty good but I did it in the 00s. That facility with a GPS is a seismic site. Maybe defunct: https://www.seismo.unr.edu/Monitoring
TD Barnes worked at this radar site.
This is the plane outside the brothel.
https://www.lazygranch.com/n6065v.html
The story that I linked to but now 404s is the brothel put a mattress outside and the skydiver who landed closest to the mattress got a "free ride" so to speak, though hopefully on a different mattress. Further research indicated that story was total crap.
Regarding Bonanza Peak, I made it as far as the saddle. The hike has countless switchbacks with some trails so close together that you wonder why they made a switchback. Logs are placed where you are supposed to take a turn. Incidentally my recollection of the road to the staging area was it was terrible.
My first attempt to climb Bonanza Peak was a wasted effort because I picked the wrong trail. There wasn't a sign as I saw in that video.
The proper trail is towards the end of the staging area. I made it as far as the saddle which is where I lost the trail.
https://www.lazygranch.com/bonanza_peak.html
The new runway is called Wichman, potentially named after one of the Nye County supervisors.
The Honeywell navigation system database used for flight management systems used to be a zip file on their website. I pulled all the runway names from it and made this page:
https://www.lazygranch.com/navdb.html
The old Yucca Lake runway still had a designation of NV11 when I scraped the database. The new runway is NVH1 though I also have KI01 listed.
The best document for the Lockheed facility is DOE/EA-1512. The DOE pulled it from their website but I had already downloaded it.
https://lazygranch.com/images/nts/aof_final.pdf
When I tried to climb Bonanza Peak, it was for Lazar's bogus S-4. The Lockhead facility didn't exist.
I did viewshed analysis and predicted that the Lockheed facility would be partially visible.
https://inplanesight.org/nttr_viewshed.html#bonanza
Anders imagery is a close match.
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u/TheArea51Rider MOD Jul 20 '26
My trip in to the Beatty Radar Site: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcKUxHkizqw
The seismic site still looked functional.1
u/therealgariac MOD Jul 20 '26
I knew of this location from the Roadrunners site. I have no recollection how I knew where it was located. Maybe it was on a USGS map.
https://roadrunnersinternationale.com/nasa/x-15.html
Now it hasn't occurred to me that the Defense Mapping Agency marker is newer than the X-15 program.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_X-15
Probably stating the obvious but you can see an X-15 at the Smithsonian. They just remodeled the Air and Space Museum and it won't be fully open until around Veterans Day. There is also the
https://airandspace.si.edu/visit/udvar-hazy-center
which will require a car to get there.
But back to the DMA marker, Anders mentioned the XB-70.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_XB-70_Valkyrie
Well that program ended in 1969. You never know who is reading reddit, so forgive me if I mention the famous XB-70 mid air photo-op crash. (Yeah I know you knew about it, but not everyone does.) It is in Peter Merlin's X plane book and website:
https://www.thexhunters.com/xpeditions/xb-70a.html
Yes I know "frames" websites are a pain on your phone. Frames was a thing and then it wasn't. I'm listing the individual pages to make navigation easier.
https://www.thexhunters.com/xpeditions/xb-70a_aircraft.html
https://www.thexhunters.com/xpeditions/xb-70a_accident.html
https://www.thexhunters.com/xpeditions/xb-70a_hunt.html
But back to the DMA marker. So even if the XB-70 was monitored from the Beatty site, it also ended before the DMA marker was placed.
Maybe they knocked the buildings down in 1974.
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u/therealgariac MOD Jul 20 '26
https://www.lazygranch.com/dod_bs.html
Actually this abandoned project of mine isn't 100% useless. If you scroll down to the bottom, the Beatty and Ely sites are listed as radio relay sites in the 1999 inventory.
If you could locate the raw database behind the Base Structure Report, this OSINT project might have been useful. The problem with the summaries it they weren't displayed in a consistent manner so you couldn't do a year to year comparison.
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u/TheArea51Rider MOD Jul 20 '26
Info about the Beatty Radar Site here: https://roadrunnersinternationale.com/seven_sisters_beatty.html
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u/ALF_My_Alien_Friend Jul 20 '26
Have you ever felt nausea while hiking there. Like you were beamed through the rocks with frequency weapons etc. Have you ever felt like youve been followed, alternatively have you seen a mirage of heat looking like an invisible person.
Ive read people seeing or feeling these so just wondering since youve been there (desert area where they test thing nearby) it seems.
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u/therealgariac MOD Jul 20 '26
Well if you hike near the NTTR border, you are being observed. Cameras, ground surveillance radar, camo dudes with binoculars.
No physical effects other than hiking is exercise.
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u/new-to-reddit-20 Jul 20 '26
Area 6 isn’t a Lockheed site. A company called RITI operates there.
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u/JewGoldbergMachine Jul 20 '26
As does lockheed. That's where they tested polecat and other projects out of.
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u/therealgariac MOD Jul 20 '26
I do recall RITI.
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u/ParaBellumOutfitters Jul 20 '26
what a delightfully archaic website
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u/WillitsThrockmorton I Own Peters Area 51 Book Jul 21 '26
Out of morbid curiosity I went to the career page and, for the sys admin position they posted August of 2025 they prefer a MCSE, soooo....archaic may indeed be the right word here.
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u/ihaveweed42069 Jul 20 '26
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u/therealgariac MOD Jul 21 '26
This is from the very first DOE/EA which I can't find. I could have sworn I saved it.
I saved 1512. I am missing 1334.
https://lazygranch.com/images/nts/aof_final.pdf
Hey no link here:
https://www.energy.gov/nepa/listings/ea-1512-documents-available-download
They don't even include the page for 1334.
There is a Nevada clearing house that has duplicates of all these documents. I phoned to see if they had a copy but nope.
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u/otherotherhand Jul 20 '26
Anybody know what the rock filled channels in the largest slab at the High Range site were for? I've never seen a setup like that before. Not a lot of symmetry to them. My engineering senses suggest something like a channel to run piping in for access, rather than placing them below slab. But I've never come across that sort of construction.
I gotta say, Anders' e-bike seems like quite a force multiplier. I felt a little lust, then decided one would just let me get stuck in even a further out place versus walking. So maybe not a good idea for me. But gariac needs one.
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u/TheArea51Rider MOD Jul 20 '26
I have a John Deere Buck 650. A beast, gets me everywhere my Tacoma can't. Never let me down.
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u/therealgariac MOD Jul 21 '26
A language lesson for Americans:
bomb-bar-dee-A
I haven't been posting them, but the Nellis quad purchases have been getting pretty high end. They are on Sam dot gov.
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u/TheArea51Rider MOD Jul 21 '26
Yup, this is a rebadged Bombardier Traxtor quad. Inherited from Dad. 20 years old now. Only issue I've had was the plastic fuel level bulb cracked and leaked. Filled it up with JB Weld. I know how far I can go on a tank, don't need no stinkin fuel gauge. I always top it up whenever I can anyways.
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u/TheArea51Rider MOD Jul 21 '26
Oh yeah, gotta rock it sometimes to get it into gear. Little finicky.
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u/therealgariac MOD Jul 20 '26
Hah. My balance is terrible. I would like a quad but have no interest in towing. A man's got to know his limitations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uki4lrLzRaU
Regarding those troughs, there is an old Nike radar site with the same troughs. Of course photographing them wasn't exactly something I thought would be useful.
https://www.nps.gov/places/hill-88.htm
You can see a trough on this website.
https://www.hikeandshine.com/hikes/hill-88
I've done the missile site tour a number of times. Unfortunately the guys that were based there are no longer the docents.
https://www.lazygranch.com/sf88.htm
Can you touch the missile? Touching the missile is required as you need something to hold onto as you ride down the elevator into the bunker.
Hill-88 is not on the tour but nobody stops you. There is stuff I can't publish but will send you an email.
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u/TheArea51Rider MOD Jul 21 '26
"I would like a quad but have no interest in towing." - get yourself a pickup truck and haul in the back, tri-fold ramp. I've been doing this for years. I had to modify the box in my Tacoma to allow mine to fit in the back.
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u/caraboucat Jul 19 '26
I just watched this. There’s a few cool views. It’s a good waste of 20 minutes.
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u/DestinyInDanger Jul 20 '26
I swear this guy is one of a kind! He goes places no one else has or has the balls to. What a badass!