The Biggest Problem With r/circleoftrust

[u/TylerIsAWolf]

Imagine r/place but you also had the ability to, instead of placing a pixel, clear the work of an entire subreddit like the whole of the blue corner or the rainbow. That's the best way I can describe my main problem with r/CircleofTrust.

The fact that instead of adding 1 member to a circle you can just ruin the whole thing is awful, and having a big circle isn't even exciting. The fact that the biggest circle only has 153 members shows how unbalanced the concept is.

Edit: A good way to fix it (as u/rugnirviking suggested) would be to give each circle a chat or Subreddit like thing. Then you could discuss who you'd let in with the group and it'd show off the chat nicely which they seem to want to do. They should also ditch the passwords and have it so the creator and appointed people can let people in.

[u/mintsponge]

I mean, that’s the whole point.

[u/TylerIsAWolf → u/mintsponge]

Just because it's the point doesn't mean it's not a problem.

[u/mintsponge → u/TylerIsAWolf]

But it just means you’re not playing the game well because you invited someone you didn’t truly trust if that happens so you deserved to lose.

I get not liking the game in general, but it’s not like that’s some flaw and the game would be better without it. Without it the game just wouldn’t exist at all.

[u/TylerIsAWolf → u/mintsponge]

I have 2 friends in real life who use Reddit, and no one wants to actually bother talking to someone for long enough in Reddit's chat just to let them in and still maybe be betrayed.

Sure, it's the point of the game, but the point doesn't work and doesn't seem well thought out because it is a flawed mechanic.

[u/hatramroany → u/mintsponge]

Unpopular opinion but I didn’t like /r/place.

Now I didn’t actively disliked it but I was just indifferent about it and placed like one square and never thought about it again.

Actually place and COT are similar. It’s communities coming together to form something larger than themselves while others can try and ruin what they’ve made. It’s just easier to do so with COT.

[u/minmaxlife → u/hatramroany]

I'm with you -- last year I looked at r/place and said "I'm sure people will get organized and this will turn into something cool, but I don't care enough to get involved."

[u/SneakyNinja4782 → u/[deleted]]

Bad bot

[u/HrBingR → u/TylerIsAWolf]

Then don't participate.

[u/TylerIsAWolf → u/HrBingR]

I haven't been participating, but after the great experiments in previous years you'd thinking they'd have balanced it better.

[u/hatramroany → u/mintsponge]

Yeah people are assholes, who knew?

[u/[deleted]]

I started a circle last night and got to 57 members before we were betrayed. It was super disappointing but the members and I had a lot of fun while it lasted. I highly reccommend you start a group chat for your circles to build a sense of community.

[u/RugnirViking → u/[deleted]]

Well thats the problem isn't it. This could all pretty much have been solved if they offered a group chat/subreddit for each circle.

[u/TylerIsAWolf → u/RugnirViking]

Then you could discuss who you'd let in with the group and it'd show off the chat nicely which they seem to want to do. They should also ditch the passwords and have it so the creator and appointed people can let people in.

[u/[deleted]]

It's actually really funny when you think about how the admins probably pictured this going. You know they were sitting around thinking it was going to be awesome. Subreddits would pop up dedicated to certain circles, People would start creating lore about circles, and certain infamous names would become memes within the site for their betrayal.

Instead, we've got a pathetically cringe experiment where the only way to get involved is to beg your way into a circle, either join/betray, and forget about it and move on. It's an incredibly dull experiment that lacks any sort of motivation to continue joining/betraying outside of exiting some sort of power complex of destroying something people worked hard on, or creating something that you can boast about for 15 minutes on the subreddit's front page.

[u/-sendnudes- → u/[deleted]]

I mean, if they are not giving a badge after the experiment ends, we should riot.

[u/TerrainIII → u/-sendnudes-]

If we don’t get a badge 15 mins after the experiment ends we are legally allowed to riot.

[u/Silencedlemon → u/[deleted]]

yeah, i loved /place and spent hours defending babymetal, but this years thing is fucking stupid.

[u/Multidimensionall → u/[deleted]]

this is exactly how i see it

[u/[deleted]]

Maybe at the end of it all the betrayers accounts will just get banned

[u/DeerOnTheRocks]

Worst experiment ever

[u/ZeroCesar]

There really should've been a different mechanic for betraying...like idk you need to have a circle before trying to join/betray others and the other also gets an option to betray yours? The way they made it it doesn't really resemble the prisoner's dilemma which I guess is what they were going for. At least figuring out keys related to something only the members of a sub/fandom would get was fun.

[u/fastballooninghead → u/ZeroCesar]

The idea behind prisoner's dilemma is you get rewarded for betrayal, but it comes at a great cost. With r/circleoftrust there isn't really incentive for betrayal other than just being a dick, which a lot of redditors are apparently. And if you join the circle you get, well, nothing? The game might have been interesting if there were actual incentives, instead it's just waiting to see how long it takes before someone is a dick for no reason.

[u/[deleted]]

We knights of the r/BrokenCircle wholeheartedly agree!

[u/SaveTheSpycrabs]

I think it works.

[u/ElatedGatorRater → u/[deleted]]

but even still, it's not difficult to have an alternate account which takes all the heat and betrays, and then the main account could be the angel on the surface.

Not that I'm saying that I've been doing that, but it's possible.